2017 Draft Prospects Thread

[SixPACK]

Put that to comparison of others from last year:

Cook: 6'4 - 217 - 9 3/4
Goff: 6'4 - 215 - 9
Hackenberg: 6'4 - 223 - 9
Hogan: 6'3 - 218 - 10 1/4
Cardale: 6'5 - 253 - 9 3/4
Kessler: 6'1 - 220 - 10 7/8
Lynch: 6'7 - 244 - 10 1/4
Prescott: 6'2 - 226 - 10 7/8
Wentz: 6'5 - 232 - 10




I will try and keep up with it as much as I can, but I will be busy at work today w/meetings and such.

But I am sure AZ, Rob, Pick6, Keys, Moz, Lee, etc. will do a good job.

 

[Pick6]

Edit: Sixpack beat me to it.

 

[BMAN]

Oooh my favorite measurements... @Deezus

 

[Pick6]

What was the speculation regarding Mitch's height again? I remember people thinking he would be smaller than listed and used it as a knock against him. I don't know if this is good or bad.

 

[SixPACK]

What was the speculation regarding Mitch's height again? I remember people thinking he would be smaller than listed. I don't know if this is good or bad.

Everyone was thinking he was going to be under 6'2. More likely 6'1.



What's funny about that is Kessler is 6'1...

 

[SixPACK]

Nice write-up on @Randolphkeys boy Mixon: Interview with him from Breer, explaining the situation, etc.:

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/03/02/joe-mixon-punch-nfl-draft-combine

 

[AZ_]

Freak.

 

[bigfoot5415]

I have a hunch Kizer is going to be the best QB of this draft. That being said, I'm not sure if "best" will translate to good.

 

[DJTJ]

I keep reading about Pat Mahomes having smaller hands, but when he's just running around gripping and then throwing bullets it kinda makes me question why people care.

 

[Soda]

I keep reading about Pat Mahomes having smaller hands, but when he's just running around gripping and then throwing bullets it kinda makes me question why people care.

Generally speaking, smaller hands are easier to knock balls out of. There's also weather; Pat Mahones is throwing bullets in the Texas sunshine when you see him, not the swirling winds in a freezing December/January (if you make the playoffs) in Cleveland.

College highlight film isn't how prospects are evaluated.

 

[Randolphkeys]

You want an in-depth talk about quarterback hand size? Let's get deep with it!

Just like height is a critical factor in reading a defense from the pocket and arm slot is critical for making throws from the pocket, hand size is critical for making consistent throws when weather isn't ideal. The cut off is 9'5 for considering the hand size a factor/non-factor.

Take for example the careers of Mike Vick and Colin Kaepernick. Both were running QBs with significantly undersized hands. They both had their biggest success passing in good weather, and ran more read option type plays weather became a factor.

One quarterback who has succeeded in bad weather without ideal hand size is Aaron Rodgers who possesses a 9.38 hand size yet still pulled Olivia Munn.

 

[Triplethreat]

Put that to comparison of others from last year:

Cook: 6'4 - 217 - 9 3/4
Goff: 6'4 - 215 - 9
Hackenberg: 6'4 - 223 - 9
Hogan: 6'3 - 218 - 10 1/4
Cardale: 6'5 - 253 - 9 3/4
Kessler: 6'1 - 220 - 10 7/8
Lynch: 6'7 - 244 - 10 1/4
Prescott: 6'2 - 226 - 10 7/8
Wentz: 6'5 - 232 - 10




I will try and keep up with it as much as I can, but I will be busy at work today w/meetings and such.

But I am sure AZ, Rob, Pick6, Keys, Moz, Lee, etc. will do a good job.

It's driving me crazy that he keeps putting 2/8 and even 4/8..... Just make it 1/4 and 1/2 God damnit Louis

 

[DJTJ]

Generally speaking, smaller hands are easier to knock balls out of. There's also weather; Pat Mahones is throwing bullets in the Texas sunshine when you see him, not the swirling winds in a freezing December/January (if you make the playoffs) in Cleveland.

College highlight film isn't how prospects are evaluated.

And neither is hand size. How you hold a football in the pocket, and hand strength are direct factors of fumbling. A ball below your chest is going to getstripped.

 

[Soda]

And neither is hand size. How you hold a football in the pocket, and hand strength are direct factors of fumbling. A ball below your chest is going to getstripped.

If hand size weren't a fairly significant factor in QB evaluation, the NFL wouldn't care. They measure it because there's precedent in it being pretty important. Especially for teams who play outside and in cold weather. The factors you mention are also important, but hand size can validate a team's position on a QB, or sway them away from a particular prospect.

 

[The Hill]

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