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Jstock12 said:
Rebounding definitely needs to improve (only 6.7 rebounds PER36 - that's Andrea Bargnani territory of bad), but I'd say the other parts of his game more than make up for this weakness. Would much rather have him than Andre Drummond.
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Going forward absolutely, considering age and experience. But if you mean just this one season then I don't think he's already a better player than Drummond.
 
Rich said:
Hmm, I don't know if I agree. Spacing would increase in the short term, but when percentages started to drop and the shooting became less efficient, offenses would have to change. Particularly if it's a significant back-up. Like a foot or more.

Because the truth is they could already stand back further if they wanted to to increase spacing. Nothing is stopping them from doing so now.

But essentially my goal is to get only the guys who should be shooting 3s, shooting 3s. I don't wanna see Blake Griffin and Brook Lopez shooting 5 3s a game. Move that thing back a foot and a half and that would, eventually, bring more guys back inside the arc.
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I thought that you would never have a guy shoot over 40% but Steph is blowing it out of the water now. Now there are bigs shooting it great when they never shot a 3 in their career like Lopez. It is fast becoming that anyone should launch because odds are good you will have more 33% and above nights than 23% nights. I personally think the odds are the problem and not where the line is.
 
Cavatt said:
I thought that you would never have a guy shoot over 40% but Steph is blowing it out of the water now. Now there are bigs shooting it great when they never shot a 3 in their career like Lopez. It is fast becoming that anyone should launch because odds are good you will have more 33% and above nights than 23% nights. I personally think the odds are the problem and not where the line is.
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but..if you back the line up, the odds will drop. The odds only increased because kids practiced from childhood to shoot 3s. it didn't start that way. And in 20 years, you might have to back it up again.

There's also some other line movements solutions to try and tilt the game towards more balance. Making the lane narrower so bigs have more room to work w/o worrying about 3 seconds. Bringing illegal defense back and getting rid of zone defense (don't know if I'm in favor of this).
 
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but..if you back the line up, the odds will drop. The odds only increased because kids practiced from childhood to shoot 3s. it didn't start that way. And in 20 years, you might have to back it up again.

There's also some other line movements solutions to try and tilt the game towards more balance. Making the lane narrower so bigs have more room to work w/o worrying about 3 seconds. Bringing illegal defense back and getting rid of zone defense (don't know if I'm in favor of this).
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I think just getting rid of 3 sec makes a lot of sense. Who do you need that against? Embiid? Shaq is gone. It destroyed the importance of big men and made them into guards. I have heard people say make it 5 sec. I do think it sucks that you fight a guy for position and you have to immediately vacate the space because your pg is being hounded and there isn't enough time to make a good pass to the big man.

Having a more spaced out court will only hurt defenses and we will see more GS teams where it is just impossible to guard them with more space, but that is just my opinion.
 
Yes, but the nature of space changes. If you move the line out people won't have to guard the space between say 20 feet and the new 3 point line very tightly because shooting a long jumper for 2 points is not a very dangerous shot. It will really open up defensive strategy a lot.
 
I think they should move the 3pt line back 2 feet and eliminate the corner threes.

It would play havoc with statistical comparisons though. Which would pretty much only affect autistic stats-loving people like myself. I'd still like to see it.

Half court 6 pt shots (but only in the last 2 minutes) would also be cool IMHO. If they bank off the backboard though, it's only worth the standard 3. If fouled in the act of shooting a 6, you shoot two FTS, each worth 3, regardless if the ball banks off the backboard (or misses entirely)

Also, if you are intentionally fouled to stop the clock, you should be able to decline the "personal take foul" and inbound the ball.

If you take off for a dunk behind the FT line, in the circle, it should be worth 6 pts. If you are fouled during a FT dunk attempt, you shoot two FTs, but each is worth 3.

For technical fouls, teams should have the option to shoot one FT, or one half court shot for 3 pts - because nothing is more boring than watching someone shoot a FT with nobody on the line.

If it is a technical for taunting or abusing the refs or embellishing, they should have 2 minute power plays a la hockey, and have to play 4 on 5 for two minutes (5th player can jump in and join the action when his penalty expires)

Dunks from behind the 3pt line, while impossible now, should be worth 20 pts. Get the kids practicing now.
 
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Still waiting to buy a fathead of Draymond having a career ending injury
 
Cavatt said:
I think just getting rid of 3 sec makes a lot of sense. Who do you need that against? Embiid? Shaq is gone. It destroyed the importance of big men and made them into guards. I have heard people say make it 5 sec. I do think it sucks that you fight a guy for position and you have to immediately vacate the space because your pg is being hounded and there isn't enough time to make a good pass to the big man.

Having a more spaced out court will only hurt defenses and we will see more GS teams where it is just impossible to guard them with more space, but that is just my opinion.
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I can see where you're coming from in regards to a bigger court. In ways it will hurt defense. But it still changes the nature of how offenses will operate, as shooting 3s becomes more difficult.
 
Rich said:
This Harden run is nuts but Giannis is still the MVP in my eyes and rather easily. Top 5 offensive and defensive player on the best team in the league.
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After the embarrassment of voting Harden MVP last year I don't think anyone will have the guts to vote for him again.
 
Nathan S said:
After the embarrassment of voting Harden MVP last year I don't think anyone will have the guts to vote for him again.
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I just don't agree with that? Leagues leading scorer on the leagues best team is like an auto-lock for MVP. If Houston was on pace to win 65 games he'd be a lock again.
 
Rich said:
I just don't agree with that? Leagues leading scorer on the leagues best team is like an auto-lock for MVP. If Houston was on pace to win 65 games he'd be a lock again.
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Don't really want to get into an argument over it, but I think cooler heads knew LeBron was still the best player in the NBA last year, and he put up huge numbers too while playing all 82 games. And then in the playoffs he proved it beyond a doubt. I think voters will finally be ready this year to stop voting for gimmicky stat-stuffers and simply vote for the best basketball player.
 
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