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Thoughts on Andy Isabella? Heard he is really impressing out there and is a browns fan being from mayfield
 
Thoughts on Andy Isabella? Heard he is really impressing out there and is a browns fan being from mayfield

Hes really, really good. Legit track star too. Hes small, but he will be an NFL player for an extremely long time.

Talk of him being able to run a 4.26 btw.
 
Thoughts on Andy Isabella? Heard he is really impressing out there and is a browns fan being from mayfield

He is going to face the same questions that Andrew Hawkins faced trying to break into the league. Yes he can make plays from the slot on the move, but how well does he handle bump and run at his size? How much of a liability is he as a blocker? Can he play outside the numbers and do anything else but stretch the field? There's no questioning what he can do, the question is what he cannot do. That said, the NFL is finding a role for these guys and teams aren't as afraid to draft them as high as they used to.
 
Immediate South weigh-in winners for me:

Terrill Hanks - LB - NMSU
Tytus Howard - OT - Alabama St.
Charles Omenihu - DE - Texas
Tyree Jackson - QB - Buffalo
Ben Powers - G - Oklahoma
Montez Sweat - DE - Miss. St.


Zach Allen is legit 6-4 and 280
Beau Benzschawel is taller and skinnier then I though
Michael Deiter is skinnier then I thought
Daniel Jones is skinnier then I thought with ok hand size
Lock with only a 9 on hands
Terry McLaurin legit 6 feet
Pratt and Smith nice size LBs
 
Immediate South weigh-in winners for me:

Terrill Hanks - LB - NMSU
Tytus Howard - OT - Alabama St.
Charles Omenihu - DE - Texas
Tyree Jackson - QB - Buffalo
Ben Powers - G - Oklahoma
Montez Sweat - DE - Miss. St.

Have you seen enough of Hanks to formulate an opinion of what he is or could be as a blitzer? I’ve opined on some other things based off limited footage and of course there are things to like but if he’s to play LB at this level I think it’s inpoerant to ensure they can offer something as a rusher at least occasionally.
 
I don't really have the time I thought I would, but I have gotten in some time. Here some breakdowns on guys that I have gotten to watch.

3 Tech-
Jeffery Simmons:Very strong and very powerful punches. I'm sure that woman he beat would agree. It's hard to get past how heinous it was for him to commit that crime. That being said, I'll try to get the player evaluation done. He appears to be very athletic and understands what to do during the play. He lined up from nose all the way out to 5 and even 7 tech. He is able to stack and shed very well during running plays and typically when he gets a hand on the ball carrier, the guy is going down. I'm not afraid of his pass rush or his pressure abilities. While he excelled against Iowa, he really struggled against SEC opponents, particularly Florida and Alabama. Even when lined up at a 3 tech, his pressure was unreliable. I see him more as a Cam Heyward than any dominating 3T in the NFL.

Ed Oliver: Incredibly, insanely, incomprehensibly athletic. At only 275, he plays with a strength of a guy with maybe 50 more pounds on him. It's not uncommon for him to run through a hold and still get to his man. On numerous occasions, when being blocked, he still managed to throw the offensive lineman into the ball carrier to get a TFL. His speed and slipperiness is rare to find in a 3T. The biggest problem, as I see it, is definitely hand usage. Because of his strength, speed and balance, he rarely has to keep hands off his chest plate. That will be a problem in the NFL because when you play bigger and stronger opponents at the next level, they are faster to get the punch in. He also does get fooled on misdirection and play action a lot. More than usual, from what I have seen. But when he is on, it's Aaron Donald reincarnate.

Dre'Mont Jones: Very slippery. Can defeat blockers by using technique or his quickness. His swim move is truly deadly and I don't know if I ever saw him get blocked when he used it. He is an elite pass rusher, able to generate pressure quickly and can bat down passes (or occasionally intercept them). I have a concern about his size and his strength. He gets obliterated in the running game too often. He can get stronger, certainly, but to get absolutely blown up like he does worries me. I think if you have the patience and ability to hold him off the field until he gets that fixed, he is a tremendous situational pass rusher. Up to him to be anything more than that.

Christian Wilkins: An awesome technician. He is never blocked and is constantly keeping his lineman off balance. He's quick and knows how to play the game. His athletic ability tests out, he is an easy pick at 17. The biggest problem, as I see it, is that he doesn't appear to be an elite athlete. I'm not sure if he is strong enough and he definitely isn't going to remind anyone of Ed Oliver. The guy clearly knows how to play the game, and if he were there in the 2nd or 3rd round, I'd jump all over him. But as a 1st rounder, I want more of an athlete/impact. I really really want him to test well, because he's a good guy and good player.

Jerry Tillery: Better athlete than what he looks. Elusive, sneaky quickness and decent playing strength. Plays with good pad level and solid technique. Sometimes lets the lineman get him and defeat him too easily. While he can play with good strength, he gets blown up too much in the running game. Has vicious hands and has a good club and dip and rip move. He cannot beat a double team, he's more technique than overly athletic. Plays a similar game to Jones, but is less athletic and more stocky than Jones. More situational than an every down player at this moment in time.

Daniel Wise: Limited film on him. Played at DE for Kansas. Dropped into coverage at times. Not great playing in space and lacks the agility to play DE. When crashed in on a run blitz, or when pass rushing on a stunt or into the interior, you could see his bowling ball strength. He is a great run defender who has no problem using his bulk to shield and defeat linemen. His biggest issue is that he does not stack and shed nor does he disengage that often. He is a lower level prospect from everyone else but I really still like him in a later round role. He can be an elite level run defender that, paired in a rotation with someone like Jones or Tillery, could be very effective.

LB-
Vosean Joseph: Small. He fits the trend of small, safety sized guys moving to linebacker. He would have the same problems that a smaller guy would have as a linebacker. As a read and reacting/run defending linebacker, he struggles. If a lineman gets his hands on him, it gets ugly. He is able to shed at times but his lack of size does hinder him. He's much better in attacking the line/ball carrier. He's a natural blitzer and often is the first one to the ball. Hits like a freight train. Has natural yet raw ability to be a coverage linebacker. He is able to reroute at the line of scrimmage and cover all TE's and even some WR'ers. His athletic ability is absolutely outstanding. By far his best ability is blitzing. He has natural bend around the corner and good instincts when blitzing inside. Good player but has restrictions. He needs to be used similar to Shaq Thompson in Carolina.

D'Andre Walker: Edge guy. Was not aware. Too small but decent perpetrator. Doesn't fit in Cleveland.

Te'Von Coney: Good player, might be redundant/similar to Schobert and Kirksey. Doesn't play down hill or make plays in the back field. Good at reading, reacting and staying in his running lane. Good vs the pass and reads the QB's eyes very well. Good tackler and can shed blocks easily. He's a good player, more depth than anything, doesn't really fit in the attacking style of Wilks.

Terril Hanks: Swiss army knife. Played everywhere from Big Nickle to edge. Aggressive and instinctive. I'm not sure he's the best tackler but usually he is the first one there and allows his teammates to get another shot. Can time a snap very well, blitzes when he was in Nickle were awesome. I like him as an attacking LB, but I don't think he's really all that good in coverage. I think he gets overwhelmed with multiple people in his zone and cannot read the QB's eyes. As a later round, situational guy, I love him. Could learn a lot from Schobert.

Ben Burr Kirven: Awesome player. Makes quick decisions and makes the play that's needed. He's athletic and can get sideline to sideline with ease. He bites on play action and zone reads way too much and his decisiveness can leave running lanes or passing lanes. He...tries as a blitzer but just isn't very talented at blitzing. Perhaps it's a scheme thing or something, but he just was really inefficient as a blitzer from what I saw. His game also relies on a lot of hustle, and I don't use that as a white guy buzz word. Multiple times I saw him cover the flat, sprint back to cover an intermediate crosser, then come back to pressure a running QB, all at full speed. He's a leader and was a green sticker guy on defense. I feel like he's just a heat seeking missile, point him in the right direction and let him go. He does lack some effectiveness in the running game, and can get sealed a little too easy on blocks. He looks to be smaller and it's not easy for him to defeat blocks

Devin White: The Man Who Cannot Be Blocked. Seriously, it's uncanny how he just runs around blocks, his 3 cone is going to be off the charts. Even when blitzing into the line, he quickly changes directions and can become a free runner. He gets sideline to sideline in an absolute flash, coverage all over the field. An odd comparison, but he reminds me of bigger Derwin James. My only problem with him is that he misses some tackles, including on sacks. He doesn't take great angles and sometimes I think he goes too fast when coming down hill that he just cannot stop himself. Give him very little teaching and watch him become the next Lewis/Willis/Kuechly. I suspect he's long gone by 17.

OT and Edge are coming.
 
Have you seen enough of Hanks to formulate an opinion of what he is or could be as a blitzer? I’ve opined on some other things based off limited footage and of course there are things to like but if he’s to play LB at this level I think it’s inpoerant to ensure they can offer something as a rusher at least occasionally.

I think he can do it. He times a snap really well, and can get to the QB fast on a blitz. That being said, he was clearly at his best when coming off the edge as DB blitz rather than up the middle.
 
Spoke with someone who coached Isabella at Mayfield. They reminded me that not only does he run really crisp routes but he has deceiving speed. Beat Denzel Ward in the 100 and 200.
 
Spoke with someone who coached Isabella at Mayfield. They reminded me that not only does he run really crisp routes but he has deceiving speed. Beat Denzel Ward in the 100 and 200.
This guy has Welker, Edelman written all over him @Randolphkeys
 
Have you seen enough of Hanks to formulate an opinion of what he is or could be as a blitzer? I’ve opined on some other things based off limited footage and of course there are things to like but if he’s to play LB at this level I think it’s inpoerant to ensure they can offer something as a rusher at least occasionally.

I actually think he would be in play as a three down guy.

He’s certainly got the look down. Will be watching his testing metrics closely, but his film is pretty solid.

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tIsR0qlJkxk
 

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