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Sexton had a better more efficient season in college than Cam. If Collin had the season he did in Cam's body, he probably would have gone 1st or At worst 2nd even against Ayton and Doncic.

Drawing 6 fouls a game and over 20pts with a tough as nails attitude at 6'8" with a very good handle and blazing speed? Lol

Collin can dunk too, don't forget. He has good vertical explosion, but I think he realizes it isn't very safe to in the NBA where he can easily be knocked out the air. If he was 6'8" he would be dunking on fools all the time.

Collin at 6'2" would be drafted in the top 5 probably in the draft too.

Hell if Reddish just had Collin's motor he would be a no brainer pick I think.

At the end of the day being on a college superteam just doesn't bold well for scouts to evaluate a top prospect. Even Tre Jones a top 15 prospect went back to Duke because I'm not sure he showed anything to NBA team this season to have him stick out.
 
At the end of the day being on a college superteam just doesn't bold well for scouts to evaluate a top prospect. Even Tre Jones a top 15 prospect went back to Duke because I'm not sure he showed anything to NBA team this season to have him stick out.

Coach K isn't known to develop many players really. He showcases them. Reddish didn't get the best showcase. His best skill was running the pick and roll and he barely got to do that.

If the Cavs think they can develop Reddish and coach thinks he can make him into a star, I am down. He needs to get his head right though, and that is not an easy player to swing on.
 
Defense? I think most scouts have called him an NBA ready defender.

The other guy people are comparing him to is SGA. Which the more I think about it, he might be. That's a good guy to put next to Sexton, but he isn't electric or anything. Hustle, defense, high IQ guy that helps his team win. Not what you want top 5, but if we accept this draft is not as good as last year, maybe pick 5 and 9 are equivalent.

I don't think he is a major scorer for years at least.

I always question the ready made defender tag for players. When it's put on guards and wings, that tag alot of times means nothing when they come to the NBA. Sometimes that player ends up being one of the worse defenders in his class. I remember Wiggins was touted for his defense.

I feel like SGA is alot more fluid with the ball in his hands and has more PG type skills that Culver doesn't have. SGA looks like a PG that happens to be 6'6 while Culver is a 6'6 player that is asked to run the point because he is their best player and they don't have a better option.
 
Bol Bol weighed in at 208 pounds wow.

If you took a picture of him from the shoulders up and ask what position he played, I think alot of people would guess guard. I'm not sure how much bulk he could add to his frame.
 
I always question the ready made defender tag for players. When it's put on guards and wings, that tag alot of times means nothing when they come to the NBA. Sometimes that player ends up being one of the worse defenders in his class. I remember Wiggins was touted for his defense.

I feel like SGA is alot more fluid with the ball in his hands and has more PG type skills that Culver doesn't have. SGA looks like a PG that happens to be 6'6 while Culver is a 6'6 player that is asked to run the point because he is their best player and they don't have a better option.

It's a good point. I mean SGA is really fluid. So imagine Culver is worse than SGA which isn't too hard. That guy at 5 is a little tough to swallow.

What the hell are we gonna do?

Maybe we should just draft Goga. Seems a very safe bet with a lot of upside.
 
Coach K isn't known to develop many players really. He showcases them. Reddish didn't get the best showcase. His best skill was running the pick and roll and he barely got to do that.

If the Cavs think they can develop Reddish and coach thinks he can make him into a star, I am down. He needs to get his head right though, and that is not an easy player to swing on.

I bet the analytics department and whoever edits game tapes are doing alot of overtime trying to analysis Reddish for the teams interested in him. I feel like it's even harder to evaluate him than someone like Garland or Bol Bol who only played a handful of games.
 
Sexton had a better more efficient season in college than Cam. If Collin had the season he did in Cam's body, he probably would have gone 1st or At worst 2nd even against Ayton and Doncic.

Drawing 6 fouls a game and over 20pts with a tough as nails attitude at 6'8" with a very good handle and blazing speed? Lol

Collin can dunk too, don't forget. He has good vertical explosion, but I think he realizes it isn't very safe to in the NBA where he can easily be knocked out the air. If he was 6'8" he would be dunking on fools all the time.

Collin at 6'2" would be drafted in the top 5 probably in the draft too.

Hell if Reddish just had Collin's motor he would be a no brainer pick I think.
This seems like a mental issue and mental issues can be overcome, that's the point of having good coaches. If we still had ty lue or drew as our coach than I'd say no way to a player with those issues. With the 5th the cavs need to swing for the fences and draft for potential. My biggest question about cam is can coaching solve the problem?
 
This seems like a mental issue and mental issues can be overcome, that's the point of having good coaches. If we still had ty lue or drew as our coach than I'd say no way to a player with those issues. With the 5th the cavs need to swing for the fences and draft for potential. My biggest question about cam is can coaching solve the problem?

Yeah it's a great question. I think if I were the front office, I would really need to work closely with the coach on such a thing.

I think the NBA is just not for the mentally weak. Even a guy as talented as Love has struggled at times from the pressures. These guys are such specialists and at the top of the top in talent, it can be such a crazy field to be in.

I mean look at Seth and Steph Curry. One is a bonafide superstar, and one is journeyman who struggled to even get in the NBA. Seth is top 4 in 3pt percentage this year, but he had to scrap and claw every bit of the way.

Is their talent really that different? Probably not. Steph has an edge somewhere, whether it is mentally, work ethic, natural ability, nerves etc. That slim edge makes all the difference.
Klay's brother has basically the same physical profile, and he was undrafted and barely played on our lottery teams in the early 2010's.

It's hard to believe but what separates the superstar players from washouts or never got their chance is so small, but it is true. Several things have to break right and you have to get playing time.

There are lot of people that think Deandre Hunter is going to be the better player than Reddish, when I think Reddish is more skilled in many areas and has more upside. He just scared everyone with 28 games of underwhelming play and bad turnovers, offensive fouls, and bad shots.
 
It’s all about the risk Koby and his team is willing to take. If you believe he’s worthy of a top 5 pick why mess around and hope he’s there at 14? His upside is so high IMO that it can propel you into elite GM status if he works out. It’s also the kind of pick that gets you fired if it fails while Hunter is guaranteed job security.
My original question was hypothetical to find out how many people like myself who aren't on board using the 5th on him might be if it landed an additional 1st round pick but yes his upside is huge. It's a make or break you.
 
My original question was hypothetical to find out how many people like myself who aren't on board using the 5th on him might be if it landed an additional 1st round pick but yes his upside is huge. It's a make or break you.

Depends on the scouting and the tier set-up of a teams big board. IF you think #5 nets you a tier 1 or 2 and say Atlanta's #8 + #10 nets you 2 players in tier 3 then is it worth it? I don't think that actually the case in this draft. From a discussion standpoint if you think he's too big of a risk at 5 what makes him less of a risk 3 picks later?
 
Just...remember.

The Cavs cannot force the Hawks to trade with them. I would LOVE to get 8 and 10 for 5, but if the Hawks don't see someone that's worth trading up for, then we are kind of just screwed.

As for Culver, is his defense not considered an elite skill? I also think his post game, for a guard is extremely good, if not elite.
 
This seems like a mental issue and mental issues can be overcome, that's the point of having good coaches.

I disagree that a player's mental makeup and personality is something that good coaches can just wave away. They can perhaps affect it on the margins, and on occasion have success with a true knucklehead. But expecting a "good coach" to change someone's basic personality, or intelligence, etc. is unrealistic.
 
Depends on the scouting and the tier set-up of a teams big board. IF you think #5 nets you a tier 1 or 2 and say Atlanta's #8 + #10 nets you 2 players in tier 3 then is it worth it? I don't think that actually the case in this draft. From a discussion standpoint if you think he's too big of a risk at 5 what makes him less of a risk 3 picks later?
1,2 and 3 are set in stone. After that I see it all mixed up. So much so that I can't see tier 2 and 3 separate without looking at 10 spots.
 

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