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This guy is a lot more cut than I thought


Good as Newble (Almost)
by Joe Gabriele
cavs.com​

December 9 -- Even casual Cavalier fans know that rookie head coach Mike Brown is all about three things: defense, defense and more defense.
Seventeen games into the 2005-06 season, the Cavaliers’ D hasn’t been quite as tenacious as Brown would prefer – the players are still learning his system and he is still without his best knuckle-down defender, Ira Newble. But both are right on the horizon.

The Cavaliers can score. With more weapons than they’ve had during the LeBron James Era, Cleveland is second in the NBA in scoring – trailing only the high-octane Suns. Between James, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Drew Gooden, Larry Hughes, Donyell Marshall and Damon Jones, the Wine and Gold can fill it up from everywhere on the floor.

Hughes is a member of the league’s All-Defensive First Team and LeBron finished third in steals last season. Drew Gooden is a monster on the glass. But none of these players can make an opponent completely miserable for 96 feet like Newble, the six-year veteran from U. of Miami (Ohio).

Newble, who started 138 games for the Cavaliers over the past two seasons, isn’t about statistics. Last year’s starting shooting guard has averaged just under six points and just over three boards per game over that span. But neither category reflects his value to the club. The NBA doesn’t have a category for what Newble does on the hardwood.

This year, Newble hasn’t suited up for a single game, suffering from the ill-effects of right foot plantar fasciitis – or, in layman’s terms, a heel spur. Newble had no idea how serious the injury was when he first noticed that something wasn’t right.

“It was sore, but I didn’t know what it was. I thought it was a slow bruise and then it got worse after the second day of training camp,” said Newble. “I never really gave it the rest it needed.”

On Thursday afternoon, Newble worked out with his teammates and could be ready to rejoin them during the Cavaliers’ pseudo-homestand over the next couple of weeks. He didn’t go through full scrimmages, but did run through some shooting and defensive drills.

“Any time you bring a guy that has that (defensive) mindset and with (Newble)’s athleticism and strength, it can only benefit you on that end of the floor,” said Coach Brown.

Many readers who have not seen the former CBA cager might wonder how a player who has averaged six points and three boards per game could have an impact on a talent-laden team like Cleveland. But if those same readers have watched a single game this year, they’d know that Newble brings an intangible that – despite the 11-6 mark – has been missing.

For the next few days, Newble will undergo a painful process in Pittsburgh through the Cleveland Clinic called high wave shock therapy. It’s something that he’s had done before. It was a medical procedure originally designed for dissipating kidney stones.

“I feel better, but I just want to get some practices in before I’m ready to go full-court,” Newble said after practice on Thursday.

By this time next week, Newble could be back in action off Mike Brown’s bench, ready to doggedly defend an opposing two or three. Newble gets in his adversary’s jersey from jump street. Hughes may be All-Defensive, but he’s more of a disrupter. Newble disrupts opponents by knocking them on their backsides. (Again, there’s no statistical category for planting point guards who get a little too daring around the rim.)

The Cavaliers defense (hopefully) isn’t what it will be come crunch time. Cleveland currently ranks 20th in the NBA in opponents’ scoring. That’s a number that Mike Brown, who cut his teeth with Greg Popovich and Rick Carlisle, finds unacceptable. But with Newble’s dogged on-ball defense and Anderson Varejao’s intrinsic rebounding about to enter the equation, look for that stat to improve exponentially.

Neither Sasha Pavlovic nor Luke Jackson brings the type of defense and toughness off the bench that Newble will bring when he returns to the Cavaliers lineup. With the Eastern Conference’s best rolling into The Q this month, both of those elements will be at a premium for the Wine and Gold.

“I’m going to come out and do what I do first and that’s play tough defense until I get comfortable and get the system right,” said Newble. “And as long as I go hard, any mistakes I make won’t matter as much.”
 
before the season started I'd thought we wouldn't need newble at all this season, but now I can't wait for him to return
 
Newble eager to help Cavs defend

Wednesday, December 14, 2005
Ira Newble has been out suffering from plantar fasciitis in his right foot since training camp. Newble is on his way back since participating in full practices in recent days.

Newble, one of the best defenders on the team, has helplessly watched the Cavs' poor defensive play in recent games from the sidelines.

Newble can't wait to get on the floor against opponents. He also knows his return will not magically improve the team's defensive play.

"I'm frustrated not being in there," said Newble, who could return Saturday against Miami. "I can come in and make a difference but I'm just one guy. I can bring energy, I can bring intensity and I can bring toughness but to play defense we have to do it as a team. I can make it frustrating for one man but our defense is surrounded by a team effort, not just one guy."

Newble's return is not enough for the Cavs to play better defense but he will help. Newble is the down-and-dirty defensive player the Cavs desperately need. His toughness has to rub off on his teammates - in time. "Our defense as a team needs to get better," Newble said. "During games it sometimes look like we're not playing good defense but when we watch tape, a lot of times we were. It's just breaking down at important parts of the game. . . . We have to keep working at it and keep growing as a team to get it right. It's about trusting each other even more."

But when? Coach Mike Brown has called for patience when it comes to the Cavs playing better defense. He often speaks of the team getting comfortable with his system and with each other.

"Winning teams didn't click in a month," Newble said. "The strong championship teams have played together for a while. We definitely don't want to take the whole season but we're going to have to buckle down and get it soon because we don't want to fall too far behind in our division."

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"I can bring energy, I can bring intensity and I can bring toughness" Newble

If only more players in this squad could do the same.
 
These guys are hyping Ira up. I hope he doesn't disapoint us.
 
can you get disapointed when you are already disapointed. :confused:
 
cavincali said:
can you get disapointed when you are already disapointed. :confused:

Story of my life. :)

Interesting point about watching tape, thinking there was a defensive breakdown, but it really wasn't...That game against Seattle, when DJones got lit, was called a bad defensive effort - they ran that pick and roll/fade the whole 4th quarter. I saw something though - Jones made extreme efforts to D up his man - he was into it. Flip Murray can break a man down - I watched a lot of Seattle games last year because I'm an Antonio Daniels fan (knew him in college - BG). He (Flip Murray) is small and has a sweet handle and crossover. He was in the zone, and there was nothing anyone could do. I saw a fire in Jones though, and he took it personal.

Anyways, I think we all knew our defensive concepts would take time. Newble back will help, as will getting AV back. The team just has to gel better on that end.
 
Interesting point about watching tape, thinking there was a defensive breakdown, but it really wasn't...That game against Seattle, when DJones got lit, was called a bad defensive effort - they ran that pick and roll/fade the whole 4th quarter. I saw something though - Jones made extreme efforts to D up his man - he was into it. Flip Murray can break a man down - I watched a lot of Seattle games last year because I'm an Antonio Daniels fan (knew him in college - BG). He (Flip Murray) is small and has a sweet handle and crossover. He was in the zone, and there was nothing anyone could do. I saw a fire in Jones though, and he took it personal.

That's comforting to hear, at least. Thanks, I didn't really watch that game.
It's good to know that he's trying. That he knows he's limited and hurting the team at times, but putting forth effort, instead of waiting to play offense every possession.

Perhaps the defense-only concepts of Mike Brown are sinking in?
 
when he told coach to take him out in favor if wilks he should have gotten credit in a way. he knew he couldnt stay in front of ford, and instead of being selfish and continue to get burned he sacrificed his p.t.
 
Not at all Cali. You just continue trying and putting in 100%. That is a quitters attitude. The coach will make that call, it his job. Jones lost even more respect with that move.
 
cavincali said:
when he told coach to take him out in favor if wilks he should have gotten credit in a way. he knew he couldnt stay in front of ford, and instead of being selfish and continue to get burned he sacrificed his p.t.
Okay, that's enough outta you for today dumbass... I think a 24 hour ban is in order.. :chuckles:

There is no way that he should get credit... This guy is not about the "team." He is about himself... He cares more about that stupid 3 point gesture then playing defense...(He puts more thought and effort into that then he does defense)

He's been getting burned by every single PG (not just Ford) and he hasn't asked out, at least to my knowledge...

What he did in that game (asking out) was selfish, and what he's done so far this season (ignoring defense) has been selfish...

Damn I wish we had Brevin Knight right now :( ... The guy at least gives effort..
 
LePIP said:
Okay, that's enough outta you for today dumbass... I think a 24 hour ban is in order.. :chuckles:

There is no way that he should get credit... This guy is not about the "team." He is about himself... He cares more about that stupid 3 point gesture then playing defense...(He puts more thought and effort into that then he does defense)

He's been getting burned by every single PG (not just Ford) and he hasn't asked out, at least to my knowledge...

What he did in that game (asking out) was selfish, and what he's done so far this season (ignoring defense) has been selfish...

Damn I wish we had Brevin Knight right now :( ... The guy at least gives effort..

so what would have called it when he stayed in a continued to get burned and the team suffered even more because of it. in this particular instant he did what was best for the team, get the blinders off.
 
cavincali said:
so what would have called it when he stayed in a continued to get burned and the team suffered even more because of it. in this particular instant he did what was best for the team, get the blinders off.
While Pip gets his blinders off, you remove your blinkers.

I dont care who you are, you don't pull yourself off :jerkoff: That came out wrong :chuckles:

Jones at that moment quit on the team. You have to challenge yourself, and he took the easy road. You have to take some hits along the road, but it seems Jones just wants the glory without the guts.
 
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well you can look at the glass half empty or half full. yes it is a sign of quitting, but its not like he was getting the job done. if he was doing a decent job on him and said "forget this coach i dont want to play take me out" than he would be quitting.

regardless of what is was i would rather him just play better.
 
cavincali said:
well you can look at the glass half empty or half full. yes it is a sign of quitting, but its not like he was getting the job done. if he was doing a decent job on him and said "forget this coach i dont want to play take me out" than he would be quitting.

regardless of what is was i would rather him just play better.
I understand what you're saying Cali...

It's only understandable if a player is hurt and is not helping the team, or if their sick... Something along those lines...

But i'm sorry, TJ FORD is not good enough to have a player ask out of a game...

Also, with the back and forth shouting match between Brown and Jones in the very next game, that leads me to believe there is something more there.. Eventually it will blowup and surface to the top... I think alot of it has to do with not starting from the beginning...

I would prefer to just get rid of this guy before that happens...It could hurt us worse in the end..
 

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