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I was doing my daily reading this morning, and happened to be reading comments that were made during and after the draft.

That's when I ran into this article, written on the day of the draft: Link to Story

The article basically talks about the Warriors needing to draft Anthony Randolph, and how Mullin wouldn't pass-up the opportunity if it presented itself.

And, who did they draft? Anthony Randolph!

Then I got to thinking:

GS is always conscious of the luxury tax, and never breaks it. Mullin is always wanting to get the very best he can for what he has (you'd think ALL GM's would be this way, but they aren't). Then, it occurred to me: Andris Biedrins is a restricted free-agent, and the Warriors don't want to match, but they will if they are forced to.

So, then I got to thinking (I'm assuming you read the article)... If Mullin were to pull-off a deal that involved Andris Biedrins & Baron Davis, that would ultimately set GS up for the next 4+ years.

Here is what I came-up with:

Golden State sends:
Baron Davis
Andris Biedrins

Cleveland sends:
Wally Szczerbiak
Anderson Varejao
Eric snow
2009 & 2011 1st round picks

How the trade is actually done:

Andris would need to be a S&T player, and he wants around 10 million per year...and unlike Varejao, he's actually worth it!!!!! Problem here is that a S&T player cannot be traded with another person. So Andris would get his 50 million, but his first year salary would be about 7 million, and he'd be traded for Eric Snow & a 1st round draft pick.

Davis would be traded for Wally and Anderson and a 1st round draft pick.

Although the trades would be done separately, they'd be completed at the same time.

The Cavs would have their #2 and 2 good young bigs (JJ & Andris). They would be out of draft picks for a while, but such is the price you pay to get some rings.

The Warriors meanwhile would ship Al Harrington or Varejao off next year for yet another 1st round pick, allowing them to stay young, cheap, yet good enough to compete every year.


I think there might actually be some validity to this rumor we were hearing about Davis.

OH... BTW, The Cavaliers can't/couldn't mention ANYTHING about this trade before Tuesday (July, 1st)... nor could ANY of their employees, as it would be tampering! Keep that in mind when you think of what you may have been told earlier this past weekend.
 
I like this trade because if wally must to change his team now it should be GS.....
 
I see. Since we don't actually have enough assets to acquire Baron Davis in the first place, the thought here is that if Golden State sweetens the pot, that will get it done.

Um, what?
 
Although I would like the trade, it is against league regulations to trade two consecutive first round draft picks (the ted stepian rule)
 
Come on Heath, you can do better than that...get to thinking again and get us Monta as well!
 
How about they throw Sjax in and monta too? that would make sense right?
 
Although I would like the trade, it is against league regulations to trade two consecutive first round draft picks (the ted stepian rule)

Are 2009 and 2011 consecutive?

I would not do this deal. I would rather have someone who could shoot. Biedrins does not fall in this category with his 52% Ft shooting ability.
 
Are 2009 and 2011 consecutive?

I would not do this deal. I would rather have someone who could shoot. Biedrins does not fall in this category with his 52% Ft shooting ability.

But he does shoot 60% from the floor, the highest in the NBA. This trade would never happen in a million years, im just saying.

Honestly, you guys are undervaluing Baron they could get dudes like Michael Redd, Shawn Marion etc for him and there gonna settle for Wally, Andy and some fillers.. come on now.
 
But he does shoot 60% from the floor, the highest in the NBA. This trade would never happen in a million years, im just saying.

Honestly, you guys are undervaluing Baron they could get dudes like Michael Redd, Shawn Marion etc for him and there gonna settle for Wally, Andy and some fillers.. come on now.

No, they aren't settling.

They are getting Anderson Varejao, who runs better than Andris, and plays better defense, and who they consider a a much better player than Andris. THEY are willing to let Andris go for NOTHING!!! In this scenario, they get an asset in Varejao and 2 1st round picks.

As for those of you who are saying he could bring them Michael Redd,etc,etc.

Yes, he could! But the reason they are gonna let Baron leave is because they WILL NOT go over the cap-limit!!!

In this scenario, they get 2 #1 picks and a player that many GM's feel is worth a #1 pick himself!

Andris is a better scorer than Anderson, but he isn't as good defensively...although he is as energetic.

At any rate, this trade would make sense, as they are not going to get anything for Andris anyway (because they intend to let him walk), and they get 2 #1 picks plus a young BIG, whom the covet.
 
No, they aren't settling.

They are getting Anderson Varejao, who runs better than Andris, and plays better defense, and who they consider a a much better player than Andris. THEY are willing to let Andris go for NOTHING!!! In this scenario, they get an asset in Varejao and 2 1st round picks.

As for those of you who are saying he could bring them Michael Redd,etc,etc.

Yes, he could! But the reason they are gonna let Baron leave is because they WILL NOT go over the cap-limit!!!

In this scenario, they get 2 #1 picks and a player that many GM's feel is worth a #1 pick himself!

Andris is a better scorer than Anderson, but he isn't as good defensively...although he is as energetic.

At any rate, this trade would make sense, as they are not going to get anything for Andris anyway (because they intend to let him walk), and they get 2 #1 picks plus a young BIG, whom the covet.

:confused: Dude, do you just come up with these things off the top of your head? Andris averages 10 and 10, and shoots 63% from the floor. Andy averages 6 and 8, shooting 47%. As far as I know, they fully intend on keeping Biedrins.. I don't see why they would even think of letting him walk. 1st round picks really don't mean much if your picking at the bottom. If we got Baron AND Biedrins we would be picking 30th. Having the last pick in the first round wouldn't do anything for the GSW.

Biedrins is 22 and still has tons of room to improve, including adding a mid range game.. they would be stupid to dump him for Andy of all people who is probably at the height of his career. Andy has a EFF of + 6.54 Biedrins is + 18.50..

Need I go on?
 
THEY are willing to let Andris go for NOTHING!!!

Link?

Lol ok, I kid, I kid...

One thought though...why the hell aren't WE willing to let Andy go for NOTHING?
 
Golden State sends:
Baron Davis
Andris Biedrins

Cleveland sends:
Wally Szczerbiak
Anderson Varejao
Eric snow
2009 & 2011 1st round picks


couple questions here.

1. Why does everyone thing that golden state is in rebuilding mode?? because there not.

2. Andris Biedrins is a pretty darn good player, and golden state will not give up both of them for expiring dunk and AV who will be hard to resign anyway. Also the cavs 1st round picks will be in the 20's, so there not going to be jumping all over those.
 
I agree with the "naysayers" this trade will not happen. They aren't letting Andris go. IF anything they will clear some room to keep him. And trading Baron won't help that cause....right now anyway.

I could see them trading AL and SJAx though.
 
couple questions here.

1. Why does everyone thing that golden state is in rebuilding mode?? because there not.

2. Andris Biedrins is a pretty darn good player, and golden state will not give up both of them for expiring dunk and AV who will be hard to resign anyway. Also the cavs 1st round picks will be in the 20's, so there not going to be jumping all over those.

How about an expiring lay up? 3 pointer? Maybe GS will be willing to take a hook shot in return. It will be prudent to look into all aspects of this trade. :thumbup:
 
How about an expiring lay up? 3 pointer? Maybe GS will be willing to take a hook shot in return. It will be prudent to look into all aspects of this trade. :thumbup:



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