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hes more of a defensive inside presence than Drew is...better shot blocker/ disruptor
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I think you're just making stuff up, George 
Wilcox: 0.4 blocks/game (13.5 mpg)
Gooden: 0.9 blocks/game (28 mpg)
Gooden has a slight advantage in blocks per minute. More impressive, though, is the fact that most of Gooden's minutes come against starting pf's, whereas Wilcox's come against backups.
And setting numbers aside, all I've heard from Clipper fans is how putrid Wilcox is on defense.
Wilcox: 0.4 blocks/game (13.5 mpg)
Gooden: 0.9 blocks/game (28 mpg)
Gooden has a slight advantage in blocks per minute. More impressive, though, is the fact that most of Gooden's minutes come against starting pf's, whereas Wilcox's come against backups.
And setting numbers aside, all I've heard from Clipper fans is how putrid Wilcox is on defense.
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well as I stated in my oriinal post the MAIN part of this trade I liked was getting our hands on Duhon...and in my estimate Wilcox could be a nice filler in our no offense pure rebounding and defense 4 spot...weather or not you like him I like the deal over all (i think)
George,
I agree with your view of the trade overall. Duhon would probably make it worth it.
Duhon > Jackson
Gooden > Wilcox
It's close to a draw, but since pg is our troublespot, the benefit of adding Duhon trumps the loss of Gooden for Wilcox.
I agree with your view of the trade overall. Duhon would probably make it worth it.
Duhon > Jackson
Gooden > Wilcox
It's close to a draw, but since pg is our troublespot, the benefit of adding Duhon trumps the loss of Gooden for Wilcox.
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Agreed. Wilcox, playing alongside Z and with LeBron, will do fine. Gooden is putting up 12/8... Wilcox will put up 8/8, 8/10.
But Duhon will be the greatest acquisition for this team... a true playmaker + defender at the 1... :drool:
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Talk radio can be anybody speculating anything. I would do the Jackson Gooden for Duhon Wilcox deal in a heartbeat. It adds a long term point guard that is right sized and right speed, pretty much the match to light the fire.
I happen to like Wilcox, and suggested we try to get him during the offseason. I think physically he is the same as Drew and his game is similar. He has gone off for 27 poiints in a game, and in games where he got minutes (Houston 31 min) he got 3 blocks and 10 rebounds or more. His reality is that he will never play starter minutes for the Clips behind Brand, so he is not as valuable to the Clips. I will readily admit that Wilcox has not earned the value Drew has. Drew has starter minutes and has the numbers to command value, but the intent of this trade is to move the value at PF to function at point guard, without giving up too much at PF. We have a lot of PF talent (Marshall, AV, Henderson) and more on the way (Marty) So a moving Drew is not a big deal. Also Wilcox plays more center than Drew (even though he is lighter) Finally Wilcox is an expiring contract so if he does not work out, he can be gone. He is less likely to get the value Drew has as a RFA.
Which brings me to Duhon. Duhon is a great fit for us. He is the right size, right skill set to bring us up a level, and he is the right age to mix well with the rest of the team. Do this trade and we will make the playoffs this year, but we will own the playoffs for years to come.
The only fly in the ointment here is that Chicago has been adamant that they will not give Duhon up. The pressure of being a bottom feeder may change their attitude but there has been no trend that way. We could worry that with Drew, Chicago is good enough to climb out of the basement, since they really lose nothing offensively with Duhon out, and they certainly are better with Drew and Tyson than otherwise, but chicago may also view Duhon as the right point guard for thier future as well.
I happen to like Wilcox, and suggested we try to get him during the offseason. I think physically he is the same as Drew and his game is similar. He has gone off for 27 poiints in a game, and in games where he got minutes (Houston 31 min) he got 3 blocks and 10 rebounds or more. His reality is that he will never play starter minutes for the Clips behind Brand, so he is not as valuable to the Clips. I will readily admit that Wilcox has not earned the value Drew has. Drew has starter minutes and has the numbers to command value, but the intent of this trade is to move the value at PF to function at point guard, without giving up too much at PF. We have a lot of PF talent (Marshall, AV, Henderson) and more on the way (Marty) So a moving Drew is not a big deal. Also Wilcox plays more center than Drew (even though he is lighter) Finally Wilcox is an expiring contract so if he does not work out, he can be gone. He is less likely to get the value Drew has as a RFA.
Which brings me to Duhon. Duhon is a great fit for us. He is the right size, right skill set to bring us up a level, and he is the right age to mix well with the rest of the team. Do this trade and we will make the playoffs this year, but we will own the playoffs for years to come.
The only fly in the ointment here is that Chicago has been adamant that they will not give Duhon up. The pressure of being a bottom feeder may change their attitude but there has been no trend that way. We could worry that with Drew, Chicago is good enough to climb out of the basement, since they really lose nothing offensively with Duhon out, and they certainly are better with Drew and Tyson than otherwise, but chicago may also view Duhon as the right point guard for thier future as well.
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BOSTON - The Boston Celtics announced today that they have acquired forward Wally Szczerbiak, center Michael Olowokandi, center Dwayne Jones, and a future first round draft choice from the Minnesota Timberwolves in exchange for Marcus Banks, Mark Blount, Ricky Davis, Justin Reed, and two conditional second round draft choices.
Szczerbiak, a one-time All-Star, is averaging a career-high 20.1 points, shooting 49.5 percent from the field and 40.6 percent from beyond the arc, to go with 4.8 boards in 38.9 minutes per game. The 6-7, 235-pound forward, originally drafted 6th overall in the 1999 NBA Draft by Minnesota, has career averages of 15.5 points, shooting 50.1 percent from the field and 40.5 percent from beyond the arc, to go with 4.4 rebounds in 33.6 minutes per game.
Michael Olowokandi, originally drafted 1st overall in the 1998 NBA Draft by the Los Angeles Clippers, is averaging 6.0 points and 5.6 rebounds in 23.5 minutes per game during the 2005-06 campaign. The 7-0, 270-pound center has career averages of 8.8 points, 5.2 rebounds and 1.4 blocks in 27.7 minutes per game. His best season came in 2002-03 when he averaged 12.3 points, 9.1 rebounds and 2.2 blocks per game in 38.0 minutes per game for the Clippers. He was signed as a free agent by the Minnesota Timberwolves on July 16, 2003.
Dwyane Jones, signed as an undrafted free agent by Minnesota on August 26, 2005, is averaging 9.3 points and 11.3 boards per game for the Florida Flame of the NBDL. The 6-11, 250-pound center ranked 5th in the nation in rebounding (11.6) and blocks (3.0), while averaging 10.1 points per game for St. Joseph's in 2004-05. An early entry candidate for the 2005 NBA Draft, Jones averaged 7.1 points and 8.5 boards per game in three seasons with St. Joseph's.
"We are ecstatic to acquire a player of Wally Szczerbiak's quality to complement Paul Pierce and our young talent base", said Celtics Executive Director of Basketball Operations, Danny Ainge. "In Wally we are receiving an All-Star player who is playoff tested and who has been a winner at all levels. We wish Ricky, Mark, Marcus, and Justin continued success in Minnesota."
Szczerbiak, a one-time All-Star, is averaging a career-high 20.1 points, shooting 49.5 percent from the field and 40.6 percent from beyond the arc, to go with 4.8 boards in 38.9 minutes per game. The 6-7, 235-pound forward, originally drafted 6th overall in the 1999 NBA Draft by Minnesota, has career averages of 15.5 points, shooting 50.1 percent from the field and 40.5 percent from beyond the arc, to go with 4.4 rebounds in 33.6 minutes per game.
Michael Olowokandi, originally drafted 1st overall in the 1998 NBA Draft by the Los Angeles Clippers, is averaging 6.0 points and 5.6 rebounds in 23.5 minutes per game during the 2005-06 campaign. The 7-0, 270-pound center has career averages of 8.8 points, 5.2 rebounds and 1.4 blocks in 27.7 minutes per game. His best season came in 2002-03 when he averaged 12.3 points, 9.1 rebounds and 2.2 blocks per game in 38.0 minutes per game for the Clippers. He was signed as a free agent by the Minnesota Timberwolves on July 16, 2003.
Dwyane Jones, signed as an undrafted free agent by Minnesota on August 26, 2005, is averaging 9.3 points and 11.3 boards per game for the Florida Flame of the NBDL. The 6-11, 250-pound center ranked 5th in the nation in rebounding (11.6) and blocks (3.0), while averaging 10.1 points per game for St. Joseph's in 2004-05. An early entry candidate for the 2005 NBA Draft, Jones averaged 7.1 points and 8.5 boards per game in three seasons with St. Joseph's.
"We are ecstatic to acquire a player of Wally Szczerbiak's quality to complement Paul Pierce and our young talent base", said Celtics Executive Director of Basketball Operations, Danny Ainge. "In Wally we are receiving an All-Star player who is playoff tested and who has been a winner at all levels. We wish Ricky, Mark, Marcus, and Justin continued success in Minnesota."
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