Browns trade Kizer for Randall

[DionGetsBuckets]

That sure as hell makes #4 interesting. I've been set on Minkah for awhile now.

I’d love to see Randall at FS, trade back from 4 to 6 to recoup picks we used today, then draft Denzel Ward at 6. Secondary suddenly looks stout.

 

[Pick6]

Randall isn't moving to FS. These are the same people that drafted him and thought he was a corner.

 

[Matches]

So I guess this flies in the face of "we don't want bad locker room guys on a young team" theory.

 

[Pick6]

So I guess this flies in the face of "we don't want bad locker room guys on a young team" theory.

I know he kind of took a low blow shot on twitter to Gordon last year, but what makes him a bad locker room guy? I haven't read anything about issues in GB.

 

[Matches]

I know he kind of took a low blow shot on twitter to Gordon last year, but what makes him a bad locker room guy? I haven't read anything about issues in GB.

From http://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/...cle_d6e77be1-7131-5030-8da3-0e20de52eabb.html:

"In a Week 4 game against Chicago on Sept. 28, Randall was benched for the second half for apparent insubordination and was later kicked off the sideline by McCarthy, who sent him to the locker room.

The next day, according to multiple sources, several players expressed that they felt Randall should be released immediately for his actions. McCarthy stood by him, however, and the coach’s patience seemingly paid off as Randall bounced back and played well in the weeks that followed. He finished the year as the Packers’ leader in interceptions (four) and pass break-ups (13).

But he also sat out the final two games with a mysterious knee injury that led some to wonder if he could have played through it."

Also:

" I’ll tell you what I told Damarious,” McCarthy replied. “He needs to focus on himself. He’s got to clean his own house. That’s what I look for him to do in the offseason. He did a lot of really good things. We all understand what happened in the Chicago game, but I thought from the Chicago game on he played at a very high level. He probably played the best football of his career, but then he didn’t play the last two games. He needs to go home and self-evaluate and clean his own house.”

 

[Phills14]

Dane Brugler ranked Randall as the 3rd best SAFETY in the 2015 draft behind Landon Collins and James Sample. He gave him a 3rd round grade but Randall was taken with the 30th pick in the draft.

3. DAMARIOUS RANDALL | Arizona State
5107|196 lbs|
5SR Pensacola, Fla. (Pensacola HS)
8/29/1992 (age 22)
#3

GRADE 3rd Round

2010: Butler Community College (Baseball)
2011: Mesa Community College (Football)
2012:Mesa Community College (Football)
2013: (12/9) 71/5.5/0.0/6/3
2014: (13/13) 106/9.5/1.0/12/3
Total: (25/22) 177/15.0/1.0/18/6

MEASUREABLES
Arm: 30 1/4 |
Hand: 08 5/8 |
Wingspan: 74 5/8

COMBINE
40-YD: 4.46 |
10-YD: 1.55 |
20-YD: 2.58 |
BP: 14 |
VJ: 38 |
BJ: 10’00” |
SS: 4.07 |
3C: 6.83

PRO DAY N/A (positional drills only)

BACKGROUND: A multi-sport athlete in high school, Randall chose baseball and enrolled at Butler Community College in Kansas and spent the 2010-11 season on the baseball diamond, playing shortstop and centerfield. After a right shoulder injury, he decided to play football instead of rehabbing the injury, transferring to Mesa Community College in Arizona. Randall redshirted in 2011 and was an All-American defensive back in 2012, seeing snaps at cornerback, free safety and wide receiver. He recorded 69 tackles, nine interceptions and five total touchdowns (two receiving, two punt returns, one interception return). He was a three-star cornerback JUCO recruit and received almost three dozen scholarship offers, choosing to stay in Arizona and play for the Sun Devils. Randall missed the start of the 2013 season due to a groin injury (nine starts), finishing his junior year with 71 tackles, 5.5 tackles for loss, six passes defended and three interceptions. He started all 13 games as the senior boundary safety in 2014 and led the team with 106 total tackles, 12 passes defended and three interceptions, earning First Team All-Pac 12 honors. Randall earned an invitation to the 2015 Senior Bowl.

STRENGTHS: Above average speed for the position with transitional quickness and natural footwork…highly aggressive and plays at full speed at all times – never gives up on plays and has a knack for chasing down ballcarriers from behind…understands situations and sees things happening quickly…decisive sideline angles with closing burst to make up ground…good anticipation to jump routes, reading the quarterback and baiting throws…heady awareness and won’t fall asleep at the wheel…adequate ballskills and knows what to do with the ball once he gains possession (six career interceptions, averaging 29.8 yards per return with two touchdowns)…plays bigger than he looks and initiates the action, seeking out contact with a violent mentality to strike through his target…plays pissed off (in a good way) and sets the tempo – unselfish team-first type with ideal training habits…played on special teams coverages at Arizona State with experience as a return man…productive starter in only two seasons at the FBS level, creating 10 turnovers (six interceptions, four forced fumbles).

WEAKNESSES: Undersized and lacks ideal strength and bulk for the safety position…willing tackler, but too often needs help to finish stops and can be taken for a ride – too many ankle biting tackle attempts…needs to break down better on the move and keep his feet underneath him to be more reliable in open-field opportunities…overaggressive at times, leading to wasted steps and motion…will get fooled by play fakes due to his aggressive nature…needs to stay patient in his pedal and often bites too early, which will lead to disaster when lined up in man coverage…still unpolished with the technical side of the game…needs to harness his hostility to avoid unnecessary contact and late hit penalties…size and violent play style draw durability concerns as he was often dinged up in college.

SUMMARY: A player with cornerback size, but a free safety skill-set, Randall took a winding road to Arizona State, including not playing football for two years after high school, and developed into a First Team All-Conference performer as a senior in Tempe. He plays with a fast and physical attitude, routinely sticking his nose in the fire, but he can be inconsistent as a box safety at times, struggling to work through contact and allowing himself to be blocked out of the play. Although he needs technique and discipline work in coverage, Randall has the size and body fluidity to hold his own, including the ballskills and confidence for the next level. He might not be a day one starter at safety, but he has the traits to make an immediate impact on special teams coverages and help in nickel situations – top-100 grade, who could go as early as the second round because the overall depth at the safety position is below average.

 

[Matches]

Another article, this one about his play:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...-packers-trading-damarious-randall/ar-BBK54Zv

It basically references this Twitter thread:

View: https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/972287498385854464?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


I was not against keeping Kizer on board as insurance, but there's obviously some talent coming back. Kizer was not going to be helped by being 3rd in the QB room so he should be jumping for joy at the opportunity to learn something from Aaron Rodgers.

As for Randall, the Packers took this guy as a CB, but that doesn't mean they don't think he could play free safety; they had drafted H. H. Dix the year before and he was in that spot. And as we heard our genius coach say last year, he gave everyone a chance to be the angel of the defense last year. It's imperative to me that Peppers move out of that role. If nothing else, it deepens the CB/DB corps which has been sorely needed the last few years. Unless this makes Jamar Taylor a cut candidate?

I still really want Minkah Fitzpatrick.

 

[dark2332]

Randall isn't moving to FS. These are the same people that drafted him and thought he was a corner.

Because they already had Clinton-Dix at free safety.

 

[Urban]

That would also explain why G.B. was willing to move him. Ha-Ha Clinton Dix is both the most amazing name in the NFL, but also a top three free safety. If Randall is an average starting outside corner but an above average free safety who is out of position, that trade is a win-win for everybody.

And how bad was Brett Hundley last year to make Kizer look like a clear upgrade?

I am very interested to see what Green plans to do with Kizer. He is only 22 years old and has all the physical attributes you want to see in a QB. Will be interesting to see if he can develop his accuracy and overall game under Rodgers. Maybe another team gives up a decent pick for him in a few years.

Definitely wish him the best going forward. Won't miss his redzone turnovers

 

[Cavs Need To Win]

I'm surprised anybody would want to trade for Kiser. He awful. Yeah, he's young so we'll see how his career develops, but he stinks! Glad to have him gone.

 

[PIP]

I'm surprised anybody would want to trade for Kiser. He awful. Yeah, he's young so we'll see how his career develops, but he stinks! Glad to have him gone.

Many said the same about Favre after his Falcons days...

I’m not sure what Kizer will be ? But honestly— if his on the field intellect catches up with his off the field intellect that will be a bad man..

Such a shame.. All the physical gifts one can want— seems to be as intelligent of an athlete as one can find yet it doesn’t translate on the field..

If the game slows down for him and someone can really coach that talent he will be a force..

 

[thestatman]

Kizer was a bum in college and a bum in the pros. Another horrible draft pick. Thank God Sashi Brown is gone. Can't decide if he was the worst GM ever. Ray Farmer was in the same class. If the Browns haven't learned their lesson by now to never draft an inaccurate passer, they never will.

 

[natedagg]

Many said the same about Favre after his Falcons days...

I’m not sure what Kizer will be ? But honestly— if his on the field intellect catches up with his off the field intellect that will be a bad man..

Such a shame.. All the physical gifts one can want— seems to be as intelligent of an athlete as one can find yet it doesn’t translate on the field..

If the game slows down for him and someone can really coach that talent he will be a force..

I mean, people can change and all, but his first year was horrid. By any statistical metric it was one of the worst years ever for a QB. Like most of them would have been pulled.

So while it's possible that his work ethic, preparation, and intelligence propel him into an NFL career, it's also possible (I'd say probable) that he's pretty much capped out. I don't see his accuracy "coming around" and without that, he will never be able to sustain drives in the NFL.

 

[AZ_]

I mean, people can change and all, but his first year was horrid. By any statistical metric it was one of the worst years ever for a QB. Like most of them would have been pulled.

So while it's possible that his work ethic, preparation, and intelligence propel him into an NFL career, it's also possible (I'd say probable) that he's pretty much capped out. I don't see his accuracy "coming around" and without that, he will never be able to sustain drives in the NFL.

Capped out at 22...

What a world.

 

[natedagg]

Capped out at 22...

What a world.

to address this snide cunty drive-by shit post, I said that it's possible. That's how the sentence reads. Go pick on the statman, or just do better?