Cleveland Cavaliers at Top of LaMarcus Aldridge's Destination List

[bigfoot5415]

We're the hot chick at the party!!!! Were getting laid this offseason!!!

 

[bigfoot5415]

Actually tbh, I feel like the Portland connection is just the writer reaching for content/ a story.

 

[Nightperson]

LMA locked up in a long term deal before the cap goes way up might be better than Love with that large contract in 2017. Guess we'll see what takes place, happy with either tbh.

 

[macbdog]

Why do we have to lose Kevin Love?

I wonder if Portland would be willing to just take back Haywood+Miller+Shumpert+picks? It's better than losing him to free agency. They'd get 1-2 picks, Haywood's $10M, Miller's expiring and Iman Shumpert.

I mean, they could either facilitate a trade for Aldridge to go out East and get a shit ton of cap relief assets (which are tradeable), or Aldridge can walk in free agency. We might even be able to do a three-team trade looking to cut salary if Portland wants young talent instead.

San Antonio and Dallas can just sign him outright, so it would behoove Portland to trade Aldridge to a team that he would want to play for post-trade (as in, a team that is still good after making the trade).

I haven't given this really any thought, but, Aldridge is great at both center and power-forward. I think you can easily play both Aldridge and Love side by side.

Is this remotely possible?

Btw. I do understand 4 max contracts would be insane, but for one, Kyrie is locked in at the old CBA max. We also don't know what the new CBA will consist of, and there's already reports of the cap exceeding $100M in the next few years.

This only works if the Cavs a. include Mozgov and b. they think he is the equivalent of two 1st rounders. Might even be able to hang onto LBJs bff. I think even Thompson could be involved in lieu. Really a curious idea the more I think about it...

 

[godfather]

Actually tbh, I feel like the Portland connection is just the writer reaching for content/ a story.

The Lakers one is. Portland is a good team, and going on history alone, winning obviously seems to matter with Kevin.

Given the other options available, it wouldn't make sense if he valued going to the shitty Lakers over Portland.

Kevin has never once made it known he wants to go LA, this has been writers from day one making these assumptions. Hell, when he listed preferred teams to play for originally, he didn't list the Lakers.

 

[gourimoko]

This only works if the Cavs a. include Mozgov and b. they think he is the equivalent of two 1st rounders. Might even be able to hang onto LBJs bff. I think even Thompson could be involved in lieu. Really a curious idea the more I think about it...

@col63onel , do you agree with this?

 

[Zog]

There are too many issues with this if Love is still on the Cavs. If not, it would be a great pickup. But Aldridge can't play center for a full season. There also simply aren't enough basketballs to distribute between LeBron, Kyrie, Love, Aldridge, JR.

Right now the Cavs have an advantage size-wise with Movgov against most teams. Love is already undersized at the PF, Aldridge would be undersized at the C position. No reason to have such a disadvantage.

The real news here is Cleveland is now a destination city for free agents.

 

[gourimoko]

There are too many issues with this if Love is still on the Cavs. If not, it would be a great pickup. But Aldridge can't play center for a full season. There also simply aren't enough basketballs to distribute between LeBron, Kyrie, Love, Aldridge, JR.

Right now the Cavs have an advantage size-wise with Movgov against most teams. Love is already undersized at the PF, Aldridge would be undersized at the C position. No reason to have such a disadvantage.

The real news here is Cleveland is now a destination city for free agents.

I just can't get with this idea that, somehow, a Cavaliers lineup where LaMarcus Aldridge replaced Mozgov/Thompson at center that somehow we would this would result in a net loss of production.

 

[Walter White]

TT would at least have to go for us to have Lamarcus and keep Love. Can't pay two PF's 20+mil and another one 12+ mil. TT and Haywood would have to be out. Then you add another center behind Moz and you got lineups where Love-LA can play together and the traditional lineups with true centers. And LA can step in for Love at PF when he goes to the bench.

What a dream that would be. Just tough to do with the money Andy is getting and the money Moz WILL get (and already noted TT). We couldn't tie up that much money to one spot.

 

[gourimoko]

TT would at least have to go for us to have Lamarcus and keep Love. Can't pay two PF's 20+mil and another one 12+ mil. TT and Haywood would have to be out. Then you add another center behind Moz and you got lineups where Love-LA can play together and the traditional lineups with true centers. And LA can step in for Love at PF when he goes to the bench.

What a dream that would be. Just tough to do with the money Andy is getting and the money Moz WILL get (and already noted TT). We couldn't tie up that much money to one spot.

But we don't need AV, TT, or Mozgov if we had both Love and Aldridge. Sure we need someone, but not those guys, not at what their going to get paid.

And that's what I'm saying.. We have so much salary already invested in our 4-5 positions that we should be able to salary dump our way into a sign-and-trade.

I'm just wondering the feasibility of it all at this point. Even if it meant waiving Varejao and using the stretch provision (he'd retire). Is this possible? Again, with all options on the table so long as we retain the Big 3?

 

[Zog]

We need Mozgov regardless of who else we have at PF/Center. The defense would go back to having no rim protection.

Aldridge/Love at center/PF is an INSANE lineup in the last 5 minutes of a game, but otherwise it is an undersized lineup that lacks shot blocking and is not that good defensively.

 

[czvo]

Why do we have to lose Kevin Love?

I wonder if Portland would be willing to just take back Haywood+Miller+Shumpert+picks? It's better than losing him to free agency. They'd get 1-2 picks, Haywood's $10M, Miller's expiring and Iman Shumpert.

I mean, they could either facilitate a trade for Aldridge to go out East and get a shit ton of cap relief assets (which are tradeable), or Aldridge can walk in free agency. We might even be able to do a three-team trade looking to cut salary if Portland wants young talent instead.

San Antonio and Dallas can just sign him outright, so it would behoove Portland to trade Aldridge to a team that he would want to play for post-trade (as in, a team that is still good after making the trade).

I haven't given this really any thought, but, Aldridge is great at both center and power-forward. I think you can easily play both Aldridge and Love side by side.

Is this remotely possible?

Btw. I do understand 4 max contracts would be insane, but for one, Kyrie is locked in at the old CBA max. We also don't know what the new CBA will consist of, and there's already reports of the cap exceeding $100M in the next few years.

Even if it were legal, which I don't believe it is given the new CBA rules, I don't think a package like that gets it done for the Cavs. Not when Boston, Orlando, Philly, or any number of teams in the East can trump it. And it doesn't matter if LMA wants to go to Cleveland. The Cavs can't sign him outright, so LMA couldn't say, "trade me here or else."

In theory, he could say, "Trade me to Cleveland, or I'm signing with Boston/Philly/Orlando." But wouldn't the Blazers just turn around and reach out to one of those teams and say, "Hey, you can have LMA, just trade for him. Otherwise, we're sending him somewhere else."

 

[inliner311]

Even if it were legal, which I don't believe it is given the new CBA rules, I don't think a package like that gets it done for the Cavs. Not when Boston, Orlando, Philly, or any number of teams in the East can trump it. And it doesn't matter if LMA wants to go to Cleveland. The Cavs can't sign him outright, so LMA couldn't say, "trade me here or else."

In theory, he could say, "Trade me to Cleveland, or I'm signing with Boston/Philly/Orlando." But wouldn't the Blazers just turn around and reach out to one of those teams and say, "Hey, you can have LMA, just trade for him. Otherwise, we're sending him somewhere else."

I think it would be more like sign and trade me to the cavs or I'm going to sign with the spurs or another west team. Portland would want to try to sign and trade him to where he wants to go so they get assets. If they don't they are left with nothing if he signs out right with someone else.

 

[col63onel]

@col63onel , do you agree with this?

We need one of the big 3 plus another contract or 2. If love is gone then yes that would work.

 

[czvo]

I think it would be more like sign and trade me to the cavs or I'm going to sign with the spurs or another west team. Portland would want to try to sign and trade him to where he wants to go so they get assets. If they don't they are left with nothing if he signs out right with someone else.

Right, but if the Spurs or another west team KNOW they can get LMA, again, what's to stop them from giving up something to get him?