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Some questions to discuss.
when will the flats project be 100 percent complete?
also, how many people actually live downtown now and what are the projeted numbers 5-10 years into the future?
Will the city actually look much different 15-20 years from now or all the changes just going to make minor differences? Thanks in advance for the responses
 
Yet another project that could be in the works pending approval and funding so still a ways to go. Would be interesting to see how construction would work since this would be next door to the RNC and I'm sure that the project would have a tough time getting finished by then if that's the plan.
I (along with another 100 or so young professionals) had the opportunity to listen to the Cavs CEO, Len Komoroski speak about the city the another night. He said that the street level stores and and parking deck are expected to be completed by the RNC.
 
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Some questions to discuss.
when will the flats project be 100 percent complete?
also, how many people actually live downtown now and what are the projeted numbers 5-10 years into the future?
Will the city actually look much different 15-20 years from now or all the changes just going to make minor differences? Thanks in advance for the responses

I might be off on the exact numbers, but once listening to Len the other night, I think he said something like 13k live downtown now, which is also the most ever. 23k are expected to live downtown by 2020.
Article I found to confirm http://www.crainscleveland.com/arti...l-population-exceeds-13000-in-latest-downtown
I contacted the organizer of the event and am trying to get a copy of the slides. Will share with you guys if I do.
 
Some questions to discuss.
when will the flats project be 100 percent complete?
also, how many people actually live downtown now and what are the projeted numbers 5-10 years into the future?
Will the city actually look much different 15-20 years from now or all the changes just going to make minor differences? Thanks in advance for the responses

I think the East Bank project should be finished by fall next year.

As far as the next 15-20 years, it's hard to say. I can say this.. Back in the 90's, the City of Cleveland took measures to promote development in Cleveland. It wasn't looking very good until like 6 years ago. The large projects happening in Cleveland right now are what they had in mind in the 90's... Cleveland is on a pretty unprecedented upswing for it's history. As long as that Stark project near The Q ends up happening, I think there's going to be a bang continuing.

In short, there are major differences, which has been paving the way for many minor, but beneficial to residents, projects. There has also been a very high rate of property deals downtown, telling me that old investors are moving out for people who want to get things going now.
 
United Airlines dropping Dallas, Florida nonstops out of Cleveland Hopkins

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- United Airlines said tonight it will end nonstop flights between Cleveland and Dallas/Fort Worth, Fort Myers, Fort Lauderdale and Tampa in the early spring.

The Dallas service out of Cleveland Hopkins International Airport ends March 5, United spokeswoman Mary Clark said. The Florida service ends April 7.

It was the second day in a row that airlines said they would trim flights at Hopkins. On Tuesday, Frontier confirmed that it will drop nonstops to New York's LaGuardia Airport, Washington-Dulles Airport and Trenton-Mercer Airport in New Jersey in coming months.

United said it will contact customers already booked on the flights that will be discontinued to offer accommodation on other flights or refunds.

The airline expects some jobs at Hopkins will be affected, but won't have details on that until it finalizes its schedules, probably into the new year.

United said the financial performance of the flights being cut did not meet expectations. Hopkins spokeswoman Jackie Mayo said the move by United is not a surprise "in light of all the new service we've gotten from airlines."

After United earlier this year started pulling its hub out of Hopkins, ultra-low-cost carriers Frontier Airlines and Spirit Airlines arrived in Cleveland, and Southwest Airlines and Delta Air Lines tweaked their schedules to add a few more nonstops.

Frontier in particular expanded quickly, going from three nonstop destinations out of Cleveland to 17 by mid-year, before dropping Seattle in the fall, followed by Tuesday's announcement that it would eliminate three other nonstops.

But Frontier's hanging onto Florida destinations, which posed a challenge to United in those popular markets. And Spirit will start flying to Orlando, Tampa and Fort Myers in January, adding Fort Lauderdale, Dallas/Fort Worth and Las Vegas in February, and Los Angeles and Myrtle Beach in April.
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The first signs of bad things ?

 
Nah.. United is on it's way out of Cleveland as a hub, so discontinued flights are expected.

Couple that with the fact that CHIA is courting Spirit, Southwest and Frontier pretty hard and you're going to have United fading more and more... These newer, committed to Cleveland airlines have cheaper flights to those discontinued destinations, anyways.
 
Not physical development, but I came across some interesting visuals/articles the past few days.
Cleveland named one of the top 50 destinations in the world for 2015
http://www.travelandleisure.com/articles/best-places-to-travel-in-2015

Article on the revival of the rustbelt
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/07/the-rustbelt-roars-back-from-the-dead.html

and this..

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Check out the link for slideshow of renderings. The project would add 500 apartments downtown.

http://www.cleveland.com/business/i..._look_nucleus_project_ren.html#incart_m-rpt-1

First look: nuCLEus project renderings show 54-story tower in downtown Cleveland (gallery)
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CLEVELAND, Ohio -- A residential tower at the nuCLEus project in downtown Cleveland could stand 54 stories -- or 647 feet -- high, making it the city's fourth-tallest building.

The developers behind the skyline-changing nuCLEus proposal filed their first crop of renderings with the city Thursday. The images show how Stark Enterprises of Cleveland and J-Dek Investments Ltd. of Solon hope to fit apartments, offices, stores, restaurants, hotel rooms, parking garages and -- possibly -- a few dozen condominiums onto a 3-acre site in the Gateway District.

J-Dek and Stark also confirmed that they've hired NBBJ as the lead architect on the project, which now carries an estimated price tag of $380 million to $400 million. Bialosky + Partners Architects, a local firm, will assist NBBJ designers from Columbus, New York and Shanghai.

"This is an exciting stage in our development process," Bob Stark, president and chief executive officer of Stark Enterprises, said in a written statement. "NBBJ's international reputation and experience will help us create something that is truly iconic for Cleveland."

The project is the second high-rise residential plan to crop up in Cleveland during the last year. Out in University Circle, two local developers are talking about an apartment tower at Euclid Avenue and Stearns Road, on the current site of the Children's Museum of Cleveland.

Downtowns across the country are seeing a surge in high-rise apartment projects, thanks to steady demand for urban living and climbing rents. Cleveland's rental boom, though, is being driven by conversions of older office buildings, many of which qualify for historic-preservation tax credits.

New construction is costly and challenging. Rents here are creeping up, but they're nowhere near what landlords charge in busier, pricier cities. The average rent for a one-bedroom apartment in the central business district is $800 to $1,000 a month, according to the Downtown Cleveland Alliance, which represents property owners.

"We believe downtown Cleveland is in the middle of a renaissance and will need buildings of this height to meet future demands," lead designer A.J. Montero, a partner at NBBJ, wrote in an email Thursday.

The nuCLEus high-rise would be much taller than what First Interstate Properties and Petros Development Corp. are contemplating in University Circle. The initial designs -- which could change as the project evolves -- show that the downtown building could house much more than apartments, though.

At the southeast corner of East Fourth Street and Prospect Avenue, the building would include street-level retail wrapped around a parking garage. Apartments would line the Prospect side of the garage.

Partway up the tower, a six-story bridge would break up the column of residences. That bridge actually is a hotel, which would link the apartment building to an office building to the east. Above the hotel, the tower would hold more apartments and, at the top, potential condominiums.

"We wanted to create a design that would be a contemporary landmark, and yet drew parallels to Cleveland's rich history," Montero wrote in a response to emailed questions. "The design of the bridge in nuCLEus parallels the iconic bridges that cross the river, while at the same time creates a building that people all across the country and even the world will recognize as 'only in Cleveland.'"

We believe downtown Cleveland is in the middle of a renaissance and will need buildings of this height to meet future demands.
Montero, who is based in Columbus, is working on the project with New York architect Tim Johnson and Shanghai architect Daniel Ayars, both of whom are well-versed in design and construction of tall buildings.

The entire nuCLEus project could include 500 residences, 1,600 parking spaces, 200,000 square feet of offices and 140,000 square feet of retail, plus the hotel. Stark has waxed poetic about the opportunity to create "laneways" -- alleys lined with small shops, bars and outdoor dining -- as intimate spaces between the development's tall buildings.

J-Dek and Stark plan to seek schematic design approval for nuCLEus from the Cleveland City Planning Commission next week. The project is slated for discussion at a city design review committee Jan. 15, before the commission's Jan. 16 meeting. The project clearly will require zoning modifications and other public approvals.

Ezra Stark, chief operating officer for Stark Enterprises, wouldn't identify specific tenants or discuss potential apartment rents or condo prices. He said the developers still are pulling together their financing from a mix of public and private sources.

Cuyahoga County has committed $3 million in casino-tax revenues, in the form of a loan, to the first phase of the project. Cleveland has put tax-increment financing, which allocates some new property-tax revenues to repaying project debt, on the table. Residential projects in the city also qualify for property-tax abatement.

Stark and J-Dek bought the nuCLEus site in September, as part of a $26 million downtown portfolio deal with a California parking-lot operator. The developers hope to start demolition of a dilapidated Huron Road parking garage and a small Prospect retail building within a few months. Most of the development site is a large parking lot that sits just north of Quicken Loans Area.

Ezra Stark said the developers still hope to open a parking garage before the Republican National Convention, set to take place downtown in mid-2016.

"We're still aggressively pursuing providing some amount of structured parking by the RNC," he said. "We'll provide as much as we can."
 
Thanks for the thread. I live in Seattle and haven't been back to Cleveland since mid-tour leave in November 2011. Nice to see things getting built and the cityscape changing. About how many 40+ story buildings are going up?

If you ever want to see what a city under heavy renewal upwards looks like, come see the Emerald City. It should be called the City of Giant Cranes at present. About 12 40+ story towers going up at present with a 1100ish footer and two 800 footers starting soon.
 
4th tallest building in Cleveland. I think it could be a bit more elegant, but BOOM.

A bit more elegant? :chuckle:

That building is god damn hideous. The first thing that came to mind when seeing it:
It looks like a combination of Soviet Bloc style apartments and Jenga. Literally one of the worst modern tower designs I've seen. Hopefully it gets re-designed.
 
I don't hate it but I don't love it.

Anything to keep CLE on the rise is good with me.
 
Not sure I like that. Seems reminiscent of Soviet monumentalism from the 70s.
I looked at the slide show and the pictures do not look like that at all, I have never seen Soviet architecture that used glass like that. Pretty bold idea and would be in line with what they once wanted out of the Gateway district back when the stadiums were first funded.
 

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