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Jawad may have been the low hanging fruit on the team - what with Graham sitting on the bench and getting 0 minutes, but what about Parker? Did you guys forget all the complaining you've been doing about continuing to see him on the floor? So far Scott has been just like MB in that he trusts his veterans and prefers height, but is willing to go small off the bench.

At least Parker provides veteran leadership, a higher basketball IQ, better defense, and a better shot. He's the kind of veteran glue guy that is a part of any team's rotation, and I think he's especially important for the Cavs with so many younger guys in the rotation (JJ, Boobie, Hollins, Sessions, etc.). Jawad provides very little, and I'd even say adds nothing that AP, Graham, or Moon couldn't do better. I'd much rather see a veteran get his minutes, or a completely young project (Eyenga, Harris) get minutes instead.

And I'd say many people on here have been happier with AP this year compared to last year, so I'm not quite sure I see what you're saying about all the AP complaints.
 
Not to bandwagon or anything but: Boy am I relieved that Jawad has taken a seat. As for talent priorities, I don't think point guard is one of them. I think Scott has his point guard candidates and he will select one of them at some point.

I totally agree on the small forward as all of ours suck, but I will give moon an E for effort. In terms of picking up a very good three with a draft pick I think this is the easiest task in Basketball.

I am not so sure that we will get a post oriented center. I think Hollins tracks very close to Tyson Chandler.

I think we will get another 2 guard, although Manny has a shot.
 
He seems to be a really good teacher. I love the way he interacts with Boobie during the game. You can tell he really wants him to be good and he seems to be always teaching or giving him tips.

I always crack up though when JJ does something stupid. Coach Scott is usually stoic but more than a few times already I've seen him be visibly flustered with JJ. The camera has picked him up saying "JJ you have got to be kidding me...you can't be serious with that BS." It's even more entertaining when I've gotten to sit near the bench at the games. The assistants seem pretty active in teaching and leading too.

Since I guess they have no intentions on rebuilding right away I can't wait until we get another piece in here. It'll be exciting to see what he can do with a more talented team this time around.

yes...I really like how Byron makes an effort to teach players. You can tell he sees the potential in everyone and he does everything he can to make sure each player improves to the best of their ability. This is a huge improvement over Mike Brown...Mike Brown never seemed to teach anything and would often ignore young players. The longer i follow the NBA, the more i realize that THE most important factor to a successful team is a top notch coach - a coach that played in the NBA and knows how to teach players and mold players from amateurs into real NBA players. We have that in Byron Scott and the cavs management better hold onto Byron for dear life, because a coach of his caliber is hard to come by.
 
At least Parker provides veteran leadership, a higher basketball IQ, better defense, and a better shot. He's the kind of veteran glue guy that is a part of any team's rotation, and I think he's especially important for the Cavs with so many younger guys in the rotation (JJ, Boobie, Hollins, Sessions, etc.). Jawad provides very little, and I'd even say adds nothing that AP, Graham, or Moon couldn't do better. I'd much rather see a veteran get his minutes, or a completely young project (Eyenga, Harris) get minutes instead.

And I'd say many people on here have been happier with AP this year compared to last year, so I'm not quite sure I see what you're saying about all the AP complaints.

I don't have a problem with Parker either - at least compared to what else we have, but maybe you missed all the incessant bitching because the haters prefer to call him "weak sauce" ?
 
I don't have a problem with Parker either - at least compared to what else we have, but maybe you missed all the incessant bitching because the haters prefer to call him "weak sauce" ?

I've seen plenty of AP hate and "weak sauce" references, but much more so before this season began. So far during this opening part of the season, I can recall more "maybe he's mild/strong sauce" type comments :)chuckles:) than I can recall additional AP hate. "Hate" for AP was much stronger last year and during the offseason IMO. Occassionally I do see some "why don't we play Harris (or Eyenga) instead of AP so much" comments, but I just laugh those off.
 
I've seen plenty of AP hate and "weak sauce" references, but much more so before this season began. So far during this opening part of the season, I can recall more "maybe he's mild/strong sauce" type comments :)chuckles:) than I can recall additional AP hate. "Hate" for AP was much stronger last year and during the offseason IMO. Occassionally I do see some "why don't we play Harris (or Eyenga) instead of AP so much" comments, but I just laugh those off.

I'll grant you it's improved, but remember we started out the season with threads like this:

http://realcavsfans.com/showthread.php?34527-Please...-No-Weak-Sauce-in-my-bag
 
I agree, I'm impressed so far. I think he is just what this team needs. With regard to the problems he had with players in New Jersey/New Orleans, he has always been honest and forthright about his role in all of that and says he has learned from his mistakes. I read an interview with him somewhere saying that his first few years, he had a stern disciplinarian and "my way or the highway" attitude but since then, he has learned to be more flexible.
 
Love Scott and what he's all about, but I think MB deserves more credit than most give him.

I was always a MB apologist, but now that we watch the Heat and listen to the pundits call them the Miami Cavaliers, I think we can say that Lebron should take all the blame for the offense. I always thought that because no coach, no matter how bad, would have a guy hold the ball at the top of the key for 20 seconds. It was always clear that Lebron was calling his own plays and there is nothing any coach could have done.

I think it was a mistake to hire a rookie coach to coach one of the greatest talents in the game, but I think MB deserves another job ASAP after watching the Heat play.
 
Love Scott and what he's all about, but I think MB deserves more credit than most give him.

I was always a MB apologist, but now that we watch the Heat and listen to the pundits call them the Miami Cavaliers, I think we can say that Lebron should take all the blame for the offense. I always thought that because no coach, no matter how bad, would have a guy hold the ball at the top of the key for 20 seconds. It was always clear that Lebron was calling his own plays and there is nothing any coach could have done.

I think it was a mistake to hire a rookie coach to coach one of the greatest talents in the game, but I think MB deserves another job ASAP after watching the Heat play.

Ok but what about the in game adjustments in the playoffs that were no where to be found? What about the rotations that were crappy? Not playing Boobie all season and not playing JJ in the playoffs? Yes you somewhat can't blame Mike for all the issues with the offense but the actual coaching part of it is what cost him his job.
 
AP is shooting 50% from 3 just saying.
 
Cleveland Cavaliers coach Byron Scott is angry, and eager to prove critics wrong

Thursday, November 18, 2010, 8:00 PM

Terry Pluto, The Plain Dealer

"Twelve games!" said Byron Scott, shaking his head. "Some guy said we'd win only 12 games. That really got to me."

So did the predictions that the Cavs would win only 20 or 25 or maybe even 30 games.
"The Cavs won more games than any team in the league the last two seasons," said Scott.

"LeBron [James] had a lot to do with that. But to say that we're going to fall apart without him -- to me, that's a slap in the face to the guys who are here. It says LeBron had no help, and that's not true."

It also says something else, which the new Cavs coach doesn't say out loud. Those predictions of Cavaliers doom also say that Scott can't coach. Even more insulting, that he can't lead.

Spend a few minutes with Scott and know the man oozes leadership. He looks you in the eye. He stands straight. He speaks his mind, and he does it clearly.

"These players here aren't losers," said Scott. "Mo Williams and Antawn Jamison have made All-Star teams. I always loved Andy [Varejao]; he brings such passion and energy to the game. Look at what Boobie [Daniel Gibson] had done now that he's getting a chance. We have talent here."

Scott's voice rises, his eyes flash determination as he talks about the players. He's coached for 10 years in New Jersey and New Orleans.

"In terms of talent, this is the best team that I have ever taken over," he said. "When it comes to ownership and the front office and the facilities -- I'm Cinder-fella."

Cinder-fella?

"That's what my wife says," he explained. "This is best place that I've had a chance to coach when it comes to all the support. We have an owner [Dan Gilbert] who wants to win and puts his money where his mouth is. This is the happiest I have been in a long time."

Which is why Scott is exactly the best man to coach the Cavs in the post-LeBron era. There will be no pity parties on his watch. It began the first day of training camp when the Cavs ran and ran and ran.

Scott said forward Jawad Williams -- one of the team's hardest workers -- looked at the coach and said, "Man, this is crazy."

"It will pay off come January and February," said Scott. "Just watch, we'll be in shape. There is a method to the madness."

<big>Scott is demanding but very upbeat</big>
The Cavs are 5-5 as they play in New Orleans tonight and at San Antonio on Saturday -- two very tough stops. The early schedule has been somewhat soft, Boston and Atlanta being the only playoff teams in the first 10 games.

"But most people didn't think we'd be 5-5 at this points," said Scott. "That's not bad, but I figure we gave away at least two games."

In training camp, Scott was demanding in terms of his drills and practices -- but very upbeat when it came to remarks to his players. But when the team lost home games to Sacramento and Atlanta, "the players saw another side of me," said Scott.

Scott told the team that it has been hard with Varejao, Jamison and Williams all battling injuries -- and they never played a single preseason minute together. He said most people have written them off, that some of them "are feeling sorry for yourself . . . and I'm not going to take that crap."

Scott said he can't recall much of what he said, "because it came straight from the heart, and it was real emotional."

It's impressive how Scott is not afraid to bench a starter in the fourth quarter if the bench is doing a better job. He did it to Williams in one game, and to J.J. Hickson in another -- both victories.

"Mo has been great," he said. "In that game, he was 1-for-12 [shooting]. Sess [Ramon Sessions] was playing great. During a timeout, he even told me to stick with Sess if I wanted to."

As for the 22-year-old Hickson, he will learn a lot about tough love from this 14-year NBA guard who is in his 11th season as a head coach.

"I'll get on him because I know how good he can be," said Scott. "I told the players that I'll put my 66-year-old mother in the game if she gives us the best chance to win that night."
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Scott's message is loud and clear
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What bothers Scott the most about this season is the 2-4 home record.

"Our fans have been great, they have shown us nothing but love," he said. "Everywhere I go, fans say how they like our team. They say they enjoy the Princeton offense, they like the ball movement. They really are behind us."

The Cavs are a first-class operation from the practice facility to how they travel to the dressing rooms. They have a chef ready to prepare meals after practice for the players.
That's not the case with most teams, and Scott wants the players to appreciate what they have here.

Scott said when he played at home during his career with the Lakers, game day was special. He didn't take any phone calls.He didn't go out. He stayed home, then went to the morning shootaround, took a nap, then went to the game.

"We have some young guys, and they need to understand this is a job," he said. "That was another thing we talked about [after the Atlanta game]. I got pretty loud that day, and it was a shock to them. I don't like to do that often, but I will do it."

Scott paused and smiled.

"These are good guys, they want to learn," he said. "I like this team. With all the injuries and having to learn a new offense, we've been through a lot already. We will get better, just watch. I'm in this thing to win, and so are these players."
 
According to 82games, Parker is the Cavaliers worst rotation player by a pretty wide margin. Parker's -7.6 simple rating is actually 5th worst amongst all NBA players who have played at least 60% of his teams minutes. The team plays significantly better when he's off the floor.

Gomes 66% -10.3
Bargnani 71% -10.0
Afflalo 73% -9.3
Outlaw 67% -8.7
Parker 62% -7.6

http://www.82games.com/1011/1011CLE.HTM
 
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Really, from a coaches perspective, it's not about WHO you have (AP, Jawad, etc.) but about HOW you use them. Here's the big difference between Scott & Brown. First off, Scott answers to no one else in terms of his coaching. MB always hid behind the coach-by-committee philosophy, which is great but in the end you need the clear leader to direct the team. Lebron was that leader, not MB. Sure it's Lebron's fault that he is who he is, but MB was getting big bucks to coach those players and in the end it's on him for his inability to make it work in spite of those egos and agendas.

Second, Scott has a feel for the game. He lets players ride longer - or shorter for that matter - depending on their play. MB always talked about going on gut feel, but if you don't have a good feel for the game, your gut will be wrong. Scott just seems to feel the pulse and flow of the team while they're out there. Remember, that the big complaints about Scott's coaching came in his between game adjustments, not in game adjustments. MB was supposedly a great between game strategist (although I was never convinced) but just abominable in terms of in-game adjustments. On top of having to deal with Lebron's PMS, he just didn't have a good feel for the game.

Lastly, and I've written this before, the best coaches have a clear system in place but can adjust this system to fit their players. MB's infatuation with length was one of his down-falls because it showed his inability to be flexible and adjust. Again, it's not WHO you have but HOW you use them. It's all about maximizing potential. That's why I think the Heat are struggling and won't win it all this year, because LA has learned how to use who they have, and Phil is a master at getting players to maximize their potential. Remember, he was never good at reigning in egos - and in some cases he actually made it worse (Shaq vs Kobe battle just one example) - but that wasn't the point. The point was that he was the clear leader, he has an amazing feel and understanding of the game, and finds a way to get the most out of his players he has.

So instead of arguing about Parker or Jawad or Mo, let's watch HOW Scott uses these guys. Already, I've incredibly impressed.
 
Still MB never had the stones to bench Lebron when he wasn't listening, which he should've done and Byron would have done.
 

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