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I'm tired of people using the blue jackets as a way to prove Columbus can't support an NBA team. Yeah they have had shitty attendance the last 2 years, but we supported the hell out of them for the first 8 years of their miserable existence. 1 Playoff appearance in a decade is awful, and the fans shouldn't support shit like that. If any professional team (Soccer doesn't count) comes here and they aren't run by a bunch of jackasses then we will support them.

It takes two to tango, and Columbus won't be first on Stern's list.

The meat of the article I posted hints that this was the mayor's attempt to spur the Jackets into spending money to improve their product, which they have been hesitant to do.
 
It takes two to tango, and Columbus won't be first on Stern's list.

The meat of the article I posted hints that this was the mayor's attempt to spur the Jackets into spending money to improve their product, which they have been hesitant to do.

Actually, they spent a lot of money last year. They signed Umberger to a big extension, went out and sign Wisniewski and traded for Carter. It backfired heavily though.
 
Just because I'm curious as to the answers this might generate, who would cheer for them?

My take.....

I suppose they would attract "new" fans but so many of the younger generation (14-25), the part of a fan base that supports the long term health of a franchise, are HUGE Cavs. They were really galvanized to their team during the LeBron era and that would seemingly cut out a massive portion of potential supporters.

Do you really just start cheering for another team because they're closer? Or what is ultimately your motivation for latching on to a new NBA team? When another one is 140 miles away? I think that's the huge piece people undersell.

I'm sure this is where everyone starts discussing the Reds / Indians or the Browns / Bengals but those teams were founded / formed in the pre modern era of sports television / the internet. You were almost forced in to watching / supporting the closer team because local radio and TV broadcasts were all you had at your disposal. That dynamic just does not exist any more and I think it is why some expansion teams struggle, long term, with keeping a fan base.

Comparing how close teams are, that came in to existence 30 years ago, is a pointless exercise in my opinion. It just doesn't apply to how a modern team will be accepted and what kind of success they can expect to have (based on geographic ties). For $20 a month I can keep watching the team I already cheer for, in HD, on my couch. Converting the post internet fan to a new franchise, when a team is already even remotely close, is MUCH harder than converting a pre internet fan. There's more games, more highlights, more box scores, more messages boards, etc. etc. at their disposal. They can keep up with their team SOOOOO much easier that simply putting a franchise a few miles closer is, in many (if not most) cases, not going to matter.

There will always be an initial "new car smell" for a team / franchise but once they stop winning (if they ever start), they don't have any history to fall back on. The reason I love the Cavs (and any sports team for that matter) is because of the tangible memories I have associated with the team. I'm emotionally invested in them. Remove the memories or start from scratch and most people just don't have the same level of dedication (tickets, merchandise, etc.) or nearly the amount of patience. Further complicate things by putting the franchise too close to another one, in the same state and it could be a disaster.
 
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An NBA team would do great in Columbus. Hell, Columbus was 2nd behind Cleveland in ratings for LeBron's "Decision." The Arena district puts Q-Arena's surrounds to shame. It's understandable that Gilbert's scared of Columbus encroaching on his business.

People point to The Crew and CBJ as examples of pro teams not being able to compete with OSU but it's fucking soccer and hockey. Seriously.
 
It takes two to tango, and Columbus won't be first on Stern's list.

The meat of the article I posted hints that this was the mayor's attempt to spur the Jackets into spending money to improve their product, which they have been hesitant to do.
As mentioned before, this is erroneous. The Blue Jackets have $2,993,277 in cap space left and are spending $61,340,354. They have locked up many long-term high-cost deals BEFORE the mayor started running his mouth.
 
An NBA team would do great in Columbus. Hell, Columbus was 2nd behind Cleveland in ratings for LeBron's "Decision." The Arena district puts Q-Arena's surrounds to shame. It's understandable that Gilbert's scared of Columbus encroaching on his business.


People point to The Crew and CBJ as examples of pro teams not being able to compete with OSU but it's fucking soccer and hockey. Seriously.

I'm not sure that I would say "great". Columbus is not only an OSU town but it's also a football town. You could argue that the bball program has been one of the top 5 in the country since Thad showed up and they still dont even come close to getting the kind of support that football does.
 
I live in Columbus. An NBA franchise down here is ridiculous. Too close to Cleveland; there are plenty of Cavs fans down here. A lot of people migrate from northern Ohio to attend OSU, then get jobs here. I do think the idea of having a few regular season Cavs games here would be cool.

The Blue Jackets are not a threat to move for the immediate future. Columbus is a potentially excellent hockey market. They will come back to the Jackets if they fire their inept management and get some real pros in here that can build a team. In any market, you start a franchise and go a dozen years with no success and you are going to have attendance struggles. I'm surprised the attendance is as good as it is.
 
I live in Columbus. An NBA franchise down here is ridiculous. Too close to Cleveland; there are plenty of Cavs fans down here. A lot of people migrate from northern Ohio to attend OSU, then get jobs here. I do think the idea of having a few regular season Cavs games here would be cool.

The Blue Jackets are not a threat to move for the immediate future. Columbus is a potentially excellent hockey market. They will come back to the Jackets if they fire their inept management and get some real pros in here that can build a team. In any market, you start a franchise and go a dozen years with no success and you are going to have attendance struggles. I'm surprised the attendance is as good as it is.

Blue Jackets marketing is a joke. I don't think I can ever see Columbus becoming a Hockey town.

Take a team like the Oilers or the Jets who've been pretty bad the last couple of years. They still put asses in the seats and still have a great following within their provinces. In Ohio? I don't see that with the Jackets. They're in my eyes probably the 7th most liked team in that city.

It's just simply not a pro-sports town. It's Buckeyes football, and then occasionally the bball team.
 
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Also, I'd dare to say that the Cavs/Tribe/Browns fans are actually quite a bit more hipper than those backing the Jackets.
 
I lived in the Columbus area most of my life, but my career took me to Cleveland and Charlotte. Cleveland sports fans are lunatic win or lose, Columbus sports fans are either scarlet and grey fans or just bored. They have no patience for losing.

The only way to get basketball here is to keep the buckeyes winning, and as one poster suggested play a few cavs games here. A pro team would flop entirely because anybody interested in pro basketball is either a Cavs fan or a Pacers fan, or a major market bandwagoner...

It was entirely different in Charlotte. Just about everything on two legs were basketball addicts BEFORE the Hornets. March madness was a group fever. It was an obvious move to put a team there. Even then, the franchise struggled through incompetent ownership, the tragedy of bobby Phil's, and the selfishness of johnson, mourning, and Kendall Gill. The mayor is smoking bad weed on this one.
 

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