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Darius Kinnard Garland

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What is Darius Garland's Ceiling?

  • One Time All-Star

    Votes: 16 9.9%
  • Occasional All-Star

    Votes: 19 11.8%
  • 5-6 Time All-Star

    Votes: 31 19.3%
  • Perennial All-Star

    Votes: 40 24.8%
  • An All-NBA Team or Two

    Votes: 22 13.7%
  • Perennial All-NBA Teamer

    Votes: 20 12.4%
  • Occasional MVP Candidate

    Votes: 11 6.8%
  • Perennial MVP Candidate

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • MVP, Baby!

    Votes: 10 6.2%
  • Being Jim Chones

    Votes: 13 8.1%

  • Total voters
    161
The problem is that Garland was having a bad year before the jaw injury. He’s been bad pre and post injury all season.
He can start of the year bad, but had no time to recover due to the injury. My point is it is a wasted season for him developmentally. I don't think he would've continue to play that way if he didn't get hurt. We never got to see.
 
May I remind people that there is an ignore feature available on this forum. Moreover, may I also remind people that some posters still think that Dylan Windler is better than Mikal Bridges
Wait. What? Windler isn’t better than Bridges?
 
Too late everyone agreed.

Don't wanna keep rehashing the top 10 debate but I don't think most people seem to know what a point guard is

I don't know if you are just joking or not with this but I really dislike this kind of posts. It reminds me of how people acted on a lot of car forums I use to go on. A set of guys would shut down any discussion by telling people to search the forum. They had fix stuff, sometimes not in the most effective way but it was posted somewhere then they didn't want to discuss it anymore.

It basically killed those forums because it halted discussions because once you hit a point almost everything on fixing a car has been talked about. A lot of the time it didn't account for valuing more people to innovate ways to fix things more effectively or just in different manners with different tools.

I think the great part of this place is we constantly are discussing a constantly changing sport but we also tolerate rehashing things. I believe if everyone started policing the subjected that annoys them, we would have very little to talk about. The best thing to do is just let the discussion run it's course and just come back when people stop talking about it.
 
I don't know if you are just joking or not with this but I really dislike this kind of posts. It reminds me of how people acted on a lot of car forums I use to go on. A set of guys would shut down any discussion by telling people to search the forum. They had fix stuff, sometimes not in the most effective way but it was posted somewhere then they didn't want to discuss it anymore.

It basically killed those forums because it halted discussions because once you hit a point almost everything on fixing a car has been talked about. A lot of the time it didn't account for valuing more people to innovate ways to fix things more effectively or just in different manners with different tools.

I think the great part of this place is we constantly are discussing a constantly changing sport but we also tolerate rehashing things. I believe if everyone started policing the subjected that annoys them, we would have very little to talk about. The best thing to do is just let the discussion run it's course and just come back when people stop talking about it.
I am joking. This forum has really high quality discussion in general (looking at you Dean Wade thread) one of the best boards for basketball discussion
 
How many players have lost 20 lbs mid season and made an impact? This year if he gives us anything it's a win, but we are asking him to carry the team.

Garland and Mobley will be the reason we stay where we are or take the next step. I hope we don't do anything drastic player wise until we see these guys with a different coach. Unless some GM is stupid and just gives a surefire star SF.
Wait a minute. Now we're trying to say that Garland lost 20 lbs.? I call bullshit, that has to be an exaggeration.
 
Wait a minute. Now we're trying to say that Garland lost 20 lbs.? I call bullshit, that has to be an exaggeration.


The 24-year-old acknowledged that he lost 12 pounds during his time away and is still working to gain the weight back, starting with waffle fries and chicken noodle soup, which was his first meal since getting his wires removed since he still had rubber bands in.

Adding Garland back into the mix


The backcourt duo of Garland and Mitchell looked like they were back to their old selves as the point guard made his return to the starting lineup.



On top of Mitchell’s close-out performance, Garland got the offense flowing early and often, finishing with 19 points in just over 20 minutes while adding three assists and two steals.



Mitchell celebrated the win and the return by sauntering into the locker room while Garland was being interviewed, blasting the remix of “Welcome Back” by Mase featuring the artist formerly known as Kanye West, now known as Ye. The music was met with soaring voices from the locker room to the point that Garland forgot a question he was being asked by Bally Sports sideline reporter Serena Winters.



Mitchell mentioned the main difference between Evan Mobley, who returned on Monday against the Clippers, coming back, and Garland was the energy that the guard brings, especially with him living through the wire when his jaw was fractured and struggled to speak. Even when traveling to Paris with the Cavs for their contest against the Brooklyn Nets as part of the NBA Global Games last month, Garland was forced to bring a blender on the flight across the globe to drink his food through a straw.
“I [had] people in Paris bringing out chicken alfredo and a cup on a silver platter, which was cool, but it was totally different to see,” Garland said.



The 24-year-old acknowledged that he lost 12 pounds during his time away and is still working to gain the weight back, starting with waffle fries and chicken noodle soup, which was his first meal since getting his wires removed since he still had rubber bands in.



As he returned to the starting lineup from what he described as the hardest injury of his career, Garland felt his new body adjusting to the game as early as the first quarter. But even though fatigue seeped its way in, Garland was determined to make the most of his minute restriction and was a pest on defense. He forced a turnover and score on an inbound by the Pistons; and was switching speeds and getting into the painted area to either create for himself or get his teammates involved.
“He showed particularly offensively how easy the game can be for him and how many different ways that he can beat you,” Bickerstaff said. “I thought he was aggressive. I thought he looked quick, he was attacking the basket, [and he] mixed his game up.



“The conditioning piece will come, but the speed of the game is going to come.”



For now, the Cavs are simply glad to have their starting lineup back in full force and to get everyone acclimated to the team’s new identity ahead of a push to the playoffs.



“I think it’s just the amount of talent and the amount of skill that’s out on the floor,” Bickerstaff said of having the lineup back. “You can continue to be multidimensional because so many guys on the floor can do so many different things.



“Whether it’s the starting lineup or your second unit, you got places that you can go where you feel like you have an advantage, and defenses are just going to have to make tough decisions.”
 
I swore it was stated as 20. Thanks @bushwick_bill for the article. I'm still considering it a lost developmental year due to mid season injury.

I'm not doom and gloom with Darius and still see him being a key piece to our success. I want ro see him with a better coach as well.
 
I swore it was stated as 20. Thanks @bushwick_bill for the article. I'm still considering it a lost developmental year due to mid season injury.

I'm not doom and gloom with Darius and still see him being a key piece to our success. I want ro see him with a better coach as well.
100 percent agree with you.
 
I swore it was stated as 20. Thanks @bushwick_bill for the article. I'm still considering it a lost developmental year due to mid season injury.

I'm not doom and gloom with Darius and still see him being a key piece to our success. I want ro see him with a better coach as well.
Agreed. I still think the coach is our biggest weakness; I may not harp on JBB as much as others here do, but that's because I don't need to -- the rest of the posters already take care of it for me, lol. I wish he'd been removed after the Knicks series, but here we are. We'd be a lot less critical of Garland and Mobley if we had someone who could be more creative with the offense and help them build their skills within a good offensive framework. I've always maintained that coaching and systems are more important than people realize in basketball; there's a reason great coaches in the NBA last and can do well with a variety of players. Talent in and of itself still needs to be disciplined and applied within strategic and tactical frameworks, and that's a major responsibility of coaching. If talent was all we needed, super teams would win every season, but they don't. Just look at the Brooklyn Nets before they broke things up.
 
I have lost count of the amount of times I've seen JBB emphatically wave his arms at DG while yelling "Push it! Push it!" and then muttering some f bombs after he storms back a few steps.

DG likes to play slow and he likes to pound the air out of the ball. This is how talented ball dominant ISO players learn how to play growing up. I havent seen a thing to suggest that this is the way that JB wants him to play, and have actually seen, read, and heard quite a bit of the opposite.

JB aint the long term guy, but I also refuse to wash away the sins of this team all on JB's shortcomings either. Especially when Ive seen direct evidence that he is trying to avoid what DG continues to fall into.

There's a reason why the ball was moving, the offense looked better, and the team was blowing teams away when Mitchell was running the point. JB's offense didnt change during that stretch, the head of the snake did.
I've always wondered if Garland has a conditioning issue. Even before jaw injury. He always looks like he's tired and I think he uses the slower pace to catch his breath. When he doesn't have the ball, he's very stationary as well. (This is pure speculation on my part, I have nothing to back this up)
 

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