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People are always eager to jump to the psychological explanation, but my concern is that there may be more fundamental issues with how this team is constructed. With an aging Lebron and an injury-prone Kyrie and Shumpert, we lack athletic, skilled players that we can rely on. KLove is skilled but not athletic, something that shows on defense and in an inability to reach the basket when his shot is not falling. JR Smith is aging and not as athletic as he was. TT is reliable, young, and reasonably athletic but lacks outstanding skill in almost any area except rebounding. Delly is not athletic. Mozgov did a lot to cover for our flaws but turning 30+knee surgery seems to have aged him overnight. Especially without Kyrie we are looking kind of like a streaky jump shooting team that lacks answers when 3s are not falling and struggles on defense.

We do have a lot of skill and b-ball IQ on this team and we have to get really religious about ball movement on offense. And obviously we need last year's Mozgov back, badly.
 
People are always eager to jump to the psychological explanation, but my concern is that there may be more fundamental issues with how this team is constructed. With an aging Lebron and an injury-prone Kyrie and Shumpert, we lack athletic, skilled players that we can rely on. KLove is skilled but not athletic, something that shows on defense and in an inability to reach the basket when his shot is not falling. JR Smith is aging and not as athletic as he was. TT is reliable, young, and reasonably athletic but lacks outstanding skill in almost any area except rebounding. Delly is not athletic. Mozgov did a lot to cover for our flaws but turning 30+knee surgery seems to have aged him overnight. Especially without Kyrie we are looking kind of like a streaky jump shooting team that lacks answers when 3s are not falling and struggles on defense.

We do have a lot of skill and b-ball IQ on this team and we have to get really religious about ball movement on offense. And obviously we need last year's Mozgov back, badly.
I completely agree with your assessment. Athletic guys have clearly given us problems this year. Wall, Greek Freak, Jabari Parker, Drummond, Derozan, Lowry, George... The list goes on.
 
It was a horrid game. That said, it doesn't overly concern me. In a strange way I almost feel like we miss Shumpert in these regular season type match-ups more than Kyrie. Clearly you need both to challenge for anything.

I'm no basketball expert, but it feels like we have weakness on every level of defense at the moment, and that they exacerbate each other. When you take Shump's perimeter defense away, it creates open layup lanes constantly, and Lebron ends up being the only perimeter defender when Delly is sitting, and it saps his energy on the offensive end.

Love can only defend well in context. With last year's Timo and good perimeter defense, he's fine to hold down a limited role, and with the way he's playing offensively, the result would be better than anything we saw last year.

But Mo playing matador defense, JR gambling and over pursuing into a frontline of Love, a not right Moz, and TT is deep trouble. Even when guys get into the paint against Shump, they aren't moving at the same speed and straight line to the hoop that they are when Mo, and at times JR are defending them. If a guy gets a free run to the hoop Love is of almost no use. He's simply too slow to react. Shump, Lebron, and Delly make guys come at harder angles and he seems to be okay if he has time to get his feet under him. His best defense is basically crowding a guy into a bad spot, but that's impossible when they are running free right at you down the middle.

Whether it's physical, mental, a combination of both and being out of shape, Timo just looks so lost. I'm wondering if coming from playing at altitude if we didn't get the most fit Timo possible when he arrived last year after playing a half season in Denver. That Timo might be as good as it gets.

To me, bad defense has been a constant, but tonight was a bit of an aberration compared to the other losses. Those games I felt we'd win right until we didn't. We lost because of repeated defensive breakdowns.

Tonight we lacked energy from the tip and looked different than anything I've seen in the last 50 games. It looked like a road back to back in a party town. We had to miss close to a dozen point blank layups. Just off the top of my head I can recall Moz missing 3 or 4, Love missing 3, and even Lebron missing two put back layups that you never see missed. I know there were others.

I think when Shump comes back, all the 2 and 4 point wins against bad and moderately bad teams turn into 10 and 12 point wins. They'll win most against better than average teams, but need Kyrie healthy, Moz playing like last year, and a full complement to approach what we saw at the end of last year. I'm still optimistic because Kevin has played offense so well most of the year, so I think our ceiling is much higher, but I don't think we really get a chance to see it until February, which is fine, as long as it eventually gets there.

I really dont see anything Blatt can do in the meantime besides starting Delly, and only bringing in Mo with the second unit to provide energy and points. He's got to experiment with the starting lineup because you can't have a starting 5 with one consistent defender in Lebron. The Timo situation has to resolve itself somehow. I'd tell him to solely focus on defense and putbacks for now. Trying to feed him is a lesson in futility. Half the time we turnover the entry pass, and the other he can't convert even if in position.

I'll remain optimistic, but we are going to have to be 100% healthy come playoff time to be real contenders. Our team makeup doesn't lend itself to mix and match.
 
I completely agree with your assessment. Athletic guys have clearly given us problems this year. Wall, Greek Freak, Jabari Parker, Drummond, Derozan, Lowry, George... The list goes on.

It's to be expected. While the rest of the league was following the music and collecting athletic 6'7+ wings that can shoot and guard from the 1 up, we were blowing our load on the opposite.

If we can't find these guys on the FA market, we need to be scraping the barrel (draft, DL, Europe) to do so. But we all know how that is around the org.

Make no mistake, Lebron is the only reason this roster "works" and can dominate.
 
The biggest problem I saw last night was the transition defense. We were simply overrun by the Wizards nearly the entire game and no matter who was in the game.

This has now been clearly revealed to other teams and I am sure they will try to exploit the weakness before we see Shump come back and others get healthy. Could be an ugly December unless Blatt adjusts the lineup.
 
its december and i would love to see the team improve on defense and better offensive sets.. would love to see a healthier team.. looking forward to a better month even though the cavs went 13-5 for november.. there's still a lot of cleaning up and improving.. lets' trust the process and i trust blatt.. lets go cavs!
 
Expect to get ran to death by any team worth a damn until Kyrie and Shump come back.

Teams aren't even gonna be good and will be in games against us simply because they run our old men out the gym.

Fucked up part is how TF is a lineup of Delly, Smith, LeBron, Love, and TT getting ran out? All these guys are young but LeBron and should have the energy to run with any team.

I remember hearing this shit last year too.


Why are we the only team that has conditioning come into question?
 
Because it's not only about who can run faster, it's about transition defense.
Our team is weak at transition D with Smith, Love, TT (even LBJ sometimes) being caught off position when transitioning, allowing easy makes.
 
Expect to get ran to death by any team worth a damn until Kyrie and Shump come back.

Teams aren't even gonna be good and will be in games against us simply because they run our old men out the gym.

Fucked up part is how TF is a lineup of Delly, Smith, LeBron, Love, and TT getting ran out? All these guys are young but LeBron and should have the energy to run with any team.

I remember hearing this shit last year too.


Why are we the only team that has conditioning come into question?
Yeah, what tocov just mentioned is what leads to this.

Also, a bigger deal to me is the lack of protection we have at the hoop right now because of Mozgov’s recent struggles. Other teams are getting open layup lines to the hoop way too easily. That’s more concerning to me than the individual guard defense.
 
This time I can't defend Blatt. This is where you need to have a feel for the game and the season. Washington came desperate for a win, it is 20 points game with 6+ minutes left. Just pull the fucking plug. You play catch up the entire game, can't make shots, can't get any momentum. Just shut it the fuck down. I honestly don't get Blatt this time.


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So many less games in Europe. Teams don't give up there. Blatt needs to finally adjust to what NBA is.
 
So ESPN just showed that LeBron was 6th in the league in minutes per game. No other player in the top 20 has played as many seasons as LeBron has. That's just terrible coaching in my opinion. LeBron is your golden ticket - the reason you all have a shot to win it all; you can't run him into the ground in November/early December.
 
So ESPN just showed that LeBron was 6th in the league in minutes per game. No other player in the top 20 has played as many seasons as LeBron has. That's just terrible coaching in my opinion. LeBron is your golden ticket - the reason you all have a shot to win it all; you can't run him into the ground in November/early December.
I think LeBron is just as guilty of his minutes as Blatt is...he has taken his role as leader this season to the extreme and in his mind that means playing as many minutes as needed to win ballgames.

Not that I'm necessarily defending Blatt...
 
I think LeBron is just as guilty of his minutes as Blatt is...he has taken his role as leader this season to the extreme and in his mind that means playing as many minutes as needed to win ballgames.

Not that I'm necessarily defending Blatt...

Good point. I'm sure LeBron's own desire to play is a factor. Though I think most players want to play the whole game if they could. But the smart coaches limit those players minutes anyway. Spoelstra does it with Wade, Pop with everybody, etc. Part of coaching is getting players to do what they don't want to do. And even last year Blatt overplayed LeBron and to a lesser extent Kyrie too, so it can't just be because of LeBron's desire to be a leader this year. I get that the team is banged up and was incomplete last year too, but you can't chase every win - you have to know when to pull guys in blowouts for instance.

And I want to be clear that I think Blatt is a great coach, but you have to wonder if he doesn't have a little bit of Thibs in him when it comes to minutes management.
 
So ESPN just showed that LeBron was 6th in the league in minutes per game. No other player in the top 20 has played as many seasons as LeBron has. That's just terrible coaching in my opinion. LeBron is your golden ticket - the reason you all have a shot to win it all; you can't run him into the ground in November/early December.

If LBJ isn't playing that many minutes, we have siginificantly more loses. There isn't anyone else besides KLove to shoulder the load with JR not hitting shots
 
So ESPN just showed that LeBron was 6th in the league in minutes per game. No other player in the top 20 has played as many seasons as LeBron has. That's just terrible coaching in my opinion. LeBron is your golden ticket - the reason you all have a shot to win it all; you can't run him into the ground in November/early December.

I think Blatt is just a competitive guy. Like the poster above mentioned in Europe there are alot fewer games and every game means something. Blatt strikes me as somebody who hates to lose with a passion. It's hard to just expect him to switch that off.

He knows if he sits Lebron even another 3-4 mins a game, we probably have several more losses (at least).

I think the minutes limitation mandate would have to come down from above because neither Blatt or Lebron will likely stick with it on their own.
 
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