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Dion Waiters Traded

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Grade the Trade (Waiters + Kirk/Amundsen + 2nd rd pick for Smith, Shumpert, and 1st rd pick)

  • A+

    Votes: 18 7.1%
  • A

    Votes: 68 26.7%
  • B

    Votes: 106 41.6%
  • C

    Votes: 44 17.3%
  • D

    Votes: 10 3.9%
  • F

    Votes: 9 3.5%

  • Total voters
    255
  • Poll closed .
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We trade Dion, his first game against us he drops 30 and punches Kyrie during postgame handshakes and then ball taps MB
 
He was also leading the east as the 6th man while his minutes have been cut. His inconsistency has been consistent with his up and down minutes. He has really suffered from trying to get someone into the starting lineup that fits with Kyrie. We are on the 3rd Guard, 2 of which have been vets, that don't seem to fit with Kyrie.

"If you meet an asshole in the morning, you met an asshole. If you meet assholes all day, you are the asshole."

Haven't had the stomach to check the team stats the past week or so but for most of the season the Cavs' bench has led the NBA in scoring led by Dion. That Waiters/Delly backcourt combo was one of the few things that was actually working for this team but for whatever reason it's sadly been scrapped. Are they showcasing Jack for a trade?...don't get it at all.
I really thought our 2012 draftees, Dion and Zeller, were going to have a bit of a breakout this season but seems like both of them are in MB's doghouse and their minutes are being cut.
 
I never understood people parroting this line. The only time the ball regularly sticks with Waiters is when he is on the floor with the scrubs and everyone is standing around watching him. I wish in those situations he was better about moving it, but he is not a PG and Brown is forcing him to play it. He is an attacking 2 and when he gets the ball his instinct is to find his way inside and see what happens in there, which is why he is more effective on the wing anyway, because when he gets the ball on the weak side the whole defense isn't set up to stop him. When you throw him up at the top with the ball and everyone is staring at him he doesn't know what the fuck to do. He's never played PG and for good reason.

Whenever he is on the floor with Kyrie, unless he is on one of his fire hot streaks, he almost always swings the ball to Kyrie, and never gets it back. When he is on the floor as the 2 guard the ball rarely stops with him.

The attitude issues between the two of them doesn't concern me because they are supposed to be adults doing their job. A real head coach could squash that shit in a heartbeat. Of course a real head coach would have these guys playing to their strengths and the attitude issues would go away as they and the team played better.

Trading Dion is weak. They wanted to build through the draft, so now they have young talent. With young talent comes egos and immaturity. Figure it out and develope them...including Zeller and Karasev
 
I want to see how Dion plays in a good offense with a coach that maximizes his players talent. This is why I'm an advocate of firing Brown before anything else.

It cannot be understated how Brown and his offense makes players look worse than they are.
 
What I've never understood is that all the on court issues that we associate with Dion are issues that a coach can and should address in game to keep a player focus. We are bring this up of an issue on Dion but the one game that I can think of that his issues would be accepted as a almost normal thing that every player goes through is tennis. Tennis is basically the only game the player is on an island and pure by them self the whole time. This is why it acceptable for the player to go through mood swings and be up and down player through out a match. All other sports the coach or coaches are allowed to talk to the players calm them down and refocus them. This team lacks focus as a whole but Dion gets the brunt of the critism, isn't its the coaches jobs to refocus the players and to calm them down?
 
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Free Dion from Mike Brown, the dude gets benched for every small mistake. Where as Jack takes contested 20 foot jumpers without hesitation and he gets to stay on the court. He needs to get in rhythm, give him more minutes, have him play with Kyrie. Let them play off of each other, Mike Brown needs to run some plays where they take advantage of each other skills to give this process a kick start.

Why is Mike Brown being paid millions of dollars and he can't do his fucking job. They definitely have skill sets that can complement each other.

I noticed in the last night's game, in the 3rd quarter, every single play was 1-3 or 1-4 pick and roll and Dion never touched the ball for like 3-4 minutes while he was on the court. I understand his shot was off but at least get him involved and use the talent you have on the court, develop the young players.
 
Free Dion from Mike Brown, the dude gets benched for every small mistake. Where as Jack takes contested 20 foot jumpers without hesitation and he gets to stay on the court. He needs to get in rhythm, give him more minutes, have him play with Kyrie. Let them play off of each other, Mike Brown needs to run some plays where they take advantage of each other skills to give this process a kick start.

Why is Mike Brown being paid millions of dollars and he can't do his fucking job. They definitely have skills sets that can complement each other.

I noticed in last night's game, in the 3rd quarter, every single play was 1-3 or 1-4 pick and roll and Dion never touched the ball for like 3-4 minutes while he was on the court. I understand his shot was off but at least get him involved and use the talent you have on the court, develop young players.

Mike Brown doesn't run plays. He doesn't know what that is.
 
I noticed he can palm the ball, so I don't think so.
 
While there is no denying Dions' ability to drive to the rim, there can be no denial that far too often he goes out of control into the lane and turns the ball over or launches an unanswered prayer while begging for a call.

As for his attitude and demeanor, Gilbert should hire a sports psychologist and have him room with Dion.

We already have one.. It's called minutes.

"If I have any problems away from the basketball court, when I play basketball, when I'm out there playing I've got a solution for that. So it's like my psychologist or whatever.. If you ever take that away from me, I wouldn't know what to do."

-Jordan
 
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I'm not sure what the Cleveland Baseball Federation is, but Dion probably ruined their chemistry.
 
By Mary Schmitt Boyer, The Plain Dealer

Cleveland Cavaliers' Dion Waiters aims to battle through adversity

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Dion Waiters made the rounds in the visitors clubhouse at Progressive Field, shaking hands with each of the 25 students from the Cleveland Baseball Federation, then grabbed some popcorn and plopped down into a recliner to watch the film ''42'' about Jackie Robinson.

The Cavaliers mercurial shooting guard and WKYC Ch. 3 anchor Russ Mitchell teamed up Tuesday to host the first event this year in the Cavs annual Black Heritage Celebration during Black History Month.

It was, Waiters admitted, a welcome change of pace after a week's worth of controversy surrounding his struggling team, which has lost five straight and is 16-32 heading into Wednesday night's game against the Los Angeles Lakers at The Q.

"I love doing stuff for the kids in the community,'' said Waiters, who was excited for the students to learn more about Robinson. "He was able to change the game -- change the world, too.

"It's great for kids who don't really know a lot about history. There's so much you can learn. You learn about it in school, but there's so much that they leave out. If you go back and watch movies, it shows you about a guy who faced so much adversity but he didn't let it break him.''

Waiters, of course, is no stranger to adversity. He was asked to leave practice last week because of a poor attitude and has been mentioned in trade rumors most of the season, talk that has only increased with the Feb. 20 trade deadline approaching.

"I don't worry about that stuff,'' he said of the trade rumors. "If it's going to happen, it's going to happen. If not, it's not. I can't control that. It's out of my hands.''

He said he's trying to take things day by day, approaching each practice and game as a chance to get better.

"It's our job at the end of the day,'' he said. "We've got to go to work. Sometimes you feel like, 'Why are we coming in?' But you come in to get better. Everything's not going to change overnight.

"As a team facing adversity and with a lot of BS that's in the media that's not true, we've got to stick together.''

It hasn't been easy. The Cavs emotional young guard wears his heart on his sleeve. It's never difficult to tell if he's happy or sad, elated or furious.

"The game can be so frustrating,'' Waiters said. "You're mad for nothing.''

For most of the season, he has turned to his 8-month-old son, Dion Rhalik Waiters, for comfort.

"That's why I'm glad my son is there,'' he said. "It takes a lot for me to go home and be mad. When I see his face, everything goes away. I don't even think about basketball.

"Like yesterday, I didn't play a lot. In the past, I'd have been so mad, but I get home, I see him, I forgot about the game.''

Waiters played just 10 minutes in Monday's 124-107 loss at Dallas, finishing scoreless after missing all four of his shots, including two 3-pointers.

Coach Mike Brown insisted he was not trying to send a message to Waiters on Monday.

"I felt the other guys were playing better at the time,'' Brown said after practice on Tuesday. "[Jarrett] Jack had eight assists. C.J. [Miles] shot the ball well off the bench. I played Luol [Deng] heavy minutes and Kyrie [Irving] heavy minutes. Something's got to give someplace.''

Too often this season, that something has been the Cavs defense, and Brown did say Waiters was struggling a bit on that end on Monday. The Mavericks total of 124 points was just short of the Cavs opponent season high of 127 set by Atlanta on Dec. 26.

The coach brought back to improve this team's output on that end of the floor admitted this team has been the biggest challenge of his coaching career.

"This is a big challenge for myself and for the team, just because of the dynamics in terms of the age of the team and the expectations placed on the team and what we expect from ourselves,'' Brown said. "It’s something that’s challenging for myself and all of us, one that I've never been through before, obviously.''

Brown was asked if it was proving to be a bigger challenge than he expected.

"I didn’t put a number on it from 1 to 10, and say it was going to be an 8,'' the coach said. "I knew just it was going to be a process. From Day One, I never said we’re going to have it figured out by Jan. 5 or March 5 or whatever. I knew it was going to take time, but how long, I don't know.''

He insists he is not down about how things are going.

"It kind of makes me hungry,'' he said. "I want to get after it and get it right, more than anything else. Maybe it's part of my natural instinct of growing up and always trying to prove people wrong.''
 
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