Farewell Kyle Korver

[MirORich]

Edit: this is from Channing's IG. He's got a pretty funny one made for Kyrie/ McCrae/Shump too(one of the sub cliques on the team)

 

[Rich]

Clearly there was no need to say that people who don't like the trade are dumbasses. That was clearly uncalled for and nobody should be making any such ridiculous statements.

However, I think you can fairly judge the trade now.

Again, if trades made by championship teams were solely based on the end result, there'd be a crapload of "bad trades" in the NBA every year. What's more important is that it improves our chances of winning said championship. Things happen every year that positively or negatively effect if a team wins a championship that aren't based on a trade that team may make to improve their chances.

For example, looking back on the 2014-2015 season, we lost in the Finals, but would you say the JR/Shump trade was a bad trade? Of course not.

Unless you're that enamored with a 1st round pick or have proof that Dunleavy & that pick could've netted us something that improves our chances greater than Korver does, I don't see how, even if we don't end up winning it all, you can look back and say this was a bad trade.

There are people who think that pick could have been used on someone who, they feel, could have helped the team more. Jmoney has brought up sefolosha.

As for me, I was an advocate for the deal but I will say, unequivocally, if we don't win this year and we then decide to not keep Korver due to the tax, the trade will have been a mistake. I hope very much that we will keep him, but I'm not going to guarantee such a thing after we decided to let Delly go.

 

[Snarly]

There are people who think that pick could have been used on someone who, they feel, could have helped the team more. Jmoney has brought up sefolosha.

As for me, I was an advocate for the deal but I will say, unequivocally, if we don't win this year and we then decide to not keep Korver due to the tax, the trade will have been a mistake. I hope very much that we will keep him, but I'm not going to guarantee such a thing after we decided to let Delly go.

You bring up all non factors though, Basically what is done is done and it is helping us keep up with out two huge key players. I know you have a different way of thinking but Delly did nothing in the post season last year. So to bring his name in here when he was a regular season general is pointless. This trade helps now and I will give you if everything falls apart fine then hell we did our best. Please just enjoy the games and stop thinking to much about this. I get that sounds stupid to you and I know what you are getting at.

I often joke a lot here and sometimes it comes off as real or I go on my well known drunk mumbling but then I usually mean well. However this is the same thing as drafting or doing anything in sports can be questioned. Even we question ourself every day. The trade helps now and if things stay on course and we have a healthy team come June there is no reason to blame one guy as you have to blame them as a whole. We won it all in historic fashion last year and with all due respect this is a plus if it happens again. If you like the business side of things then explain that is why and it will make sense as to how you feel about such moves, I pulled this same thing in the Indians thread.

That said and sorry for the long response but I do not want to come off as you are wrong because you are not. You have a valid point in retrospect but it means nothing later and everything now. We did not draft Korver we got a proven dead eye vet and again if the finals go wrong and we lose it is not because of him. If he walks it is not a bad trade as we gave up one pick in 2019 who we have no clue who that is. This is not a bad trade by any means. It is up the players and coach as a team to get it done now, Again I see where you are coming from, I have a hunch we will do our best to keep him around.

 

[CavsRules]

There are people who think that pick could have been used on someone who, they feel, could have helped the team more. Jmoney has brought up sefolosha.

As for me, I was an advocate for the deal but I will say, unequivocally, if we don't win this year and we then decide to not keep Korver due to the tax, the trade will have been a mistake. I hope very much that we will keep him, but I'm not going to guarantee such a thing after we decided to let Delly go.

Kyle Korver is such a perfect piece next to LeBron and Kyrie, it's not even funny.

His ability to hit open threes and even contested ones are such a major weapon, that when this team is 100% this offense is going to be deadly.

As far as Korver coming back next season, hasn't he already mentioned he'd like to return next season and so on? I remember seeing the report, anyway.

Wouldn't make sense for the Cavs to just let him walk, not after giving up a draft pick.

Sent from my Galaxy Edge. Don't forget that the Golden State Warriors blew a 3-1 lead in the NBA Finals.

 

[The Oi]

I know you said you're only "a little drunk" but you may be the only drunk dude I know who has used words like "nomenclature" and "accoutrements"

Charles Bukowski?

 

[iamacavalier]

Regardless of Korver's actual shooting in the finals, his mere presence drastically opens up our offense.

That's why it was a good trade regardless, because he gives us a better chance to win than Dunleavy, no matter what.

Couldn't agree more. You cannot take the chance that he will get hot and with guys like Korver and JR sometimes it only takes seeing one shot go in. Its the same reason Love was so important last year even when he struggled (which I think were overblown). His presence has gravity. The warriors could not afford to let him start lighting them up from outside. So they had to keep a man on him which opens the floor up for LBJ, KI, and TT.

Thats Even more true with Korver. The guy can go on a run and score 20 before you realize it.

Korver generally isnt someone who is going to win a game for you. But he will make everyone elses jobs easier and can change a normal game into a blowout game.

 

[lov3]

Judging a trade by only if the Cavs win the title is ridiculous

 

[Rich]

Judging a trade by only if the Cavs win the title is ridiculous

Well good thing no one is doing that!

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Korver may well end up being our 2012-2013 version of Ray Allen in Miami. He wasn't starting, but was getting a lot of minutes, still killing it from 3, and still able to play decent team defense.

And that ain't too bad.

 

[Lee]

It's not a coincidence that most of that crowd is the same ones hating on DWill. Just trying to seem smarter than everyone else is all it is. And Griffin repeatedly proves his worth.

I loved the Korver trade and was indifferent on the Dwill trade.

Korver I thought would be stupid productive here, especially from the bench, but I didnt think DWill brought what this team needed outside the need for a legit big man, ie power forward.

I am very pleasantly surprised on DWill.

Now, as a guy who liked the Korver trade, i will be honest and say so far he has been much better than I thought. 11 points a game on 52% shooting from 3? Even the most optimistic couldnt see that coming. I mean wow.

 

[Lee]

Judging a trade by only if the Cavs win the title is ridiculous

I dont agree.

I once said i would trade my own mother to win a championship. I was 43 years old at the time and never had one in my entire life of rooting for 3 major Cleveland teams.

Since I didnt have to trade my Mother, i would now trade her for a repeat.

Trades for the Cavs are all about maximizing the window and winning a championship. If you are judging the trades by the end results, what do you judge them by? How many guys from GQ we get on the team?

 

[lov3]

I dont agree.

I once said i would trade my own mother to win a championship. I was 43 years old at the time and never had one in my entire life of rooting for 3 major Cleveland teams.

Since I didnt have to trade my Mother, i would now trade her for a repeat.

Trades for the Cavs are all about maximizing the window and winning a championship. If you are judging the trades by the end results, what do you judge them by? How many guys from GQ we get on the team?

You judge a trade by it's impact and how they perform. Right now Korver is providing much needed shooting while Love and JR are out which doesn't put as much pressure on Kyrie and LeBron to score.

In the playoffs, he will provide another shooter to spread the floor and help if another shooter is cold.

 

[TyGuy]

Korver has a TS of .699 with the Cavs... That is beyond elite and into god like territory. He's comfortably the best shooter this team has ever had and quite possibly the leagues best shooter in the greatest shooting era in history. The guy is shooting over 50 % from three with an absurd 69% of his field goals coming from three.

I feel like the team has given him the green light to bomb away from anywhere beyond three and he is taking advantage and just destroying teams.

 

[Lee]

Korver has a TS of .699 with the Cavs... That is beyond elite and into god like territory. He's comfortably the best shooter this team has ever had and quite possibly the leagues best shooter in the greatest shooting era in history. The guy is shooting over 50 % from three with an absurd 69% of his field goals coming from three.

I feel like the team has given him the green light to bomb away from anywhere beyond three and he is taking advantage and just destroying teams.

Given Korver the green light?

Why bring him in here if he doesnt have the green light, lol

Heck he shot one from Parma yesterday and buried it.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

can he reach .75 TS% is that realistically possible?