Game 11 | Cavs (8-2) @ Pistons (5-5) | November 16th, 2015 | 7:30pm EST

[gourimoko]

Can anybody explain these major issues?

Sure, here's a few that I think warrant some concern.

1) Free throw shooting is terrible.
2) Mozgov is out of shape and looks like he might still be suffering from injury.
3) Kevin Love is underperforming on the season.
4) LeBron James isn't shooting well (which should improve, but last season was also an issue).
5) Tristan Thompson is underperforming.
6) Kyrie Irving is behind schedule with his recovery, and God only knows how he will look coming back from injury.

If the goal is to win a championship, I'm not seeing how we're playing would entail us being the favorites toward such an endeavor. Hence, concern.

Are other teams having issues? Sure.
Is the sky falling? No.
Is this the end of the season? No.

That doesn't mean we have to ignore problems, even while James airs his concerns with the team to the media.

 

[stick]

I can't believe we're 0-3 against our own division. That's crazy.

I believe we beat Indiana, but yeah...

On the current situation:
Don't panic.

 

[redscoon]

8-1 record was a mirage. We played like a 5-4 team. Catching up to them now. Effort level is shitty for about 80% of games. Looking decidedly slow and unathletic without Kyrie and Shump. Finding ways to get stuck in 48 minute wars with below average teams is the last thing we need to be doing. LeBron piling up 40 minutes in bad losses in November needs to stop. Now.

 

[Binkster]

Man, I swear some of you fucking love drama. Stirring the pot with rampant overreactions.

Leaving this thread before I start seeing the inevitable "trade Love" posts that will assuredly lead me to burn my corneas out of my skull.

 

[gourimoko]

Man, when will you people understand? It's about how we look on the floor - how the team plays. I couldn't care less about the actual outcome.

Bro, don't waste your time...

Reading some of these posts, it's pointless.. Game threads aren't places useful for discussion.

 

[Huber.]

I can't believe we're 0-3 against our own division. That's crazy.

They beat the Pacers

 

[cavsfever]

Well, we have definitely come back to the pack in the east...we're looking no better than Miami, Boston, or Chicago now.

 

[Snarly]

I avoided this thread on purpose because game threads have been crybaby city.

But I can't resist poking the bear...

How many stupid Warriors comparisons have happened already?

Is the sky falling yet?

Yes it is.. to some. People should watch video from our start last year while healthy. This thread is more ADD than me right now and that is scary.

 

[All4One1ForAll]

So if we played super well and went 0-8 you would be happy?

The team is still working out different kinks, still missing 2 starters and is still on a road trip.
No need to panic in November, especially considering the above.

Stop going to extremes. If you play super well, you're not going to go 0-8, let's be honest here. If we played super well and went 4-4 though, meaning that we probably just had some bad luck, then yes, I'd be fine.

But you'd have to be blind to deny the fact that overall, we've played pretty shitty compared to the expectations of this team and despite our record. And the injuries are no excuse. We have more than enough talent on this team to not drop consecutive games to Milwaukee and Detroit. We had a 2 day break, too, so there's no reason to play with the laziness that we did today - and have all season long.

 

[Ryan Gladish]

Camby sounds like death

 

[Pyro]

I mean, the Warriors are probably licking their chops hoping to face this team in the NBA Finals.

 

[Flight479]

They beat the Pacers

We've lost to the Bulls, Bucks and now Pistons so yeah 1-3 in our division.

 

[red.]

Sure, here's a few that I think warrant some concern.

1) Free throw shooting is terrible.
2) Mozgov is out of shape and looks like he might still be suffering from injury.
3) Kevin Love is underperforming on the season.
4) LeBron James isn't shooting well (which should improve, but last season was also an issue).
5) Tristan Thompson is underperforming.
6) Kyrie Irving is behind schedule with his recovery, and God only knows how he will look coming back from injury.

If the goal is to win a championship, I'm not seeing how we're playing would entail us being the favorites toward such an endeavor. Hence, concern.

Are other teams having issues? Sure.
Is the sky falling? No.
Is this the end of the season? No.

That doesn't mean we have to ignore problems, even while James airs his concerns with the team to the media.

Do you think these are lingering concerns? I do see these as all major concerns. Especially the FT's.

What exactly can the Cavaliers do differently?

 

[gourimoko]

I really don't think anything that happens here tells us anything to really worry about.

The only true worry I think we have to have real concern over is the free throw shooting, but there are too many different factors at this point in the year to frame the situation the way the "tone" of your post is framing it.

You don't think we should be concerned about Love shooting at .397/.324 on the season so far? Or Thompson's inability to affect games; remember all the posts suggesting he was worth $80M+ given how he played in the playoffs?

I'm just confused, honestly, as to how one can hear James say there are issues with the team; yet we say here and now, after another poor showing, that everything is fine - nothing to see here?

It's a head-scratcher man, honestly.

I'm not saying the team is on the verge of implosion, which I'm sure the next hyperbolic response from someone will be, but I am saying we aren't playing all that well.

 

[Ryan Gladish]

I mean, the Warriors are probably licking their chops hoping to face this team in the NBA Finals.

I dont think they care who they face in the finals