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Game 8 | Cavaliers @ Magic | November 11, 2009 | 8:00 PM EST

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Cavs @ Magic
Wednesday Nov. 11th 2009
8:00 PM [ET]
Tv: FSN/ESPN Radio: WTAM 1100
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Injury Report​

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Cavs- Leon Powe (Knee)

Magic- Rashard Lewis (suspension)
Adonal Foyle (Knee)
Ryan Anderson(ankle)- sorry for the mistake, Bass should start in his place.

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Cavs' state of dejection: Florida

By Bob Finnan
RFinnan@News-Herald.com

ORLANDO, Fla. — LeBron James is returning to the scene of one of his darkest moments in the NBA.

When the Cavaliers were eliminated by the Orlando Magic in Game 6 of their Eastern Conference finals last May 30, 103-90, James showered and simply walked to the team bus.

He didn't shake hands and congratulate the Magic. He didn't address the hundreds of media, many from national outlets, waiting in the postgame news conference.

The revamped Cavs (4-3) will face the Magic (6-2) at 8 tonight at Amway Arena.

It's a clash of two of the East's titans.

It's also a chance for James to redeem himself after the Cavs were unceremoniously ousted from the playoffs far sooner than almost anyone expected.

James was fined $25,000 by NBA commissioner David Stern for not talking to the media.

He refuses to say he did anything wrong by not shaking hands with the Magic.

James' numbers were off the charts in the six-game series against the Magic last spring: 38.5 points, 8.3 rebounds and 8.0 assists per game. But the only numbers that mattered to him were 4-2 — the Magic's series advantage.

The Cavs' players went out of their way trying to convince the media tonight's encounter is just another game.

Everyone involved knows it isn't.

"It should be a fun game," James said. "We're going into a hostile environment where we haven't been successful in a long time.

"We look forward to going down there and continuing to get better and help our chances of becoming the team we want to be later in the season."

The Cavs have lost three in a row in the regular season at Amway Arena and six straight counting the 2009 playoffs. They haven't won there since Feb. 11, 2008.

James said it's too soon in the season to pinpoint certain matchups on the schedule.

"It's too early for that, honestly, to circle any games," he said. "This isn't one of those games where I'm trying to make a statement. I will go down there and try to dominate like I usually do."

In the East finals last year, Cavs guard Mo Williams guaranteed his team would win.

But the Cavs were unable to carry out his bold prediction.

Williams averaged 18 points a game in the series but didn't shoot the ball as well as he's capable.

"Obviously, (there was) disappointment," Williams said. "That was the last game we played. It's not something I think about. It hasn't crossed my mind.

"I gained experience and a lot of confidence from that series."

The Cavs have yet to beat a good team on the road this season. The Magic are expected to present a severe test for the Cavs.

"They knocked us out of the playoffs last year," Cavs coach Mike Brown said. "They presented a lot of problems for us last year.

"It will be interesting to see how we respond. I'm looking forward to it."

Cavaliers-Magic Preview

In a rematch of last season's Eastern Conference finals, perhaps the most intrigue surrounds two players that weren't even a part of the series.


Shaquille O'Neal and the Cleveland Cavaliers meet Vince Carter and the Orlando Magic on Wednesday night for the first time since the playoffs.

Cleveland (4-3) was the top seed in the Eastern Conference last season, but was ousted in six games by Orlando (6-2), which went on to fall in five games to the Los Angeles Lakers in the NBA finals.

Much of the blame for that surprise exit was placed on the Cavaliers' inability to defend Dwight Howard, who averaged 25.8 points and 13 rebounds in the series.

Looking to take care of that problem, Cleveland traded for O'Neal in June and he insisted the Cavaliers would no longer need to double-team Howard. While coach Mike Brown wasn't committing to O'Neal's game plan, he was hoping for a better outcome.

"They're a very good, well-coached team that presented problems for us (last year)," he said. "Hopefully it will be different this year."

O'Neal, then with Phoenix, and Howard faced each other once last season. Howard had 19 points in Orlando's 111-99 home win on March 3, but he was held to only seven rebounds -- his second-lowest total.

"He's young, agile and active," O'Neal said, "but nothing I haven't seen before."

Howard guided the Magic to NBA finals for the first time since 1994-95 when they were led by a younger and much more dominant O'Neal. While Howard may be surpassing Shaq's legacy in Orlando, O'Neal was less than complimentary of the Magic star over the summer.

"I can't be impressed by something I invented," O'Neal said. "I mean, you look at what he is doing, I've been there and done that. Every street he is driving down in Orlando, I have been on that street. Every nightclub, every restaurant -- I have been there and done that."

O'Neal has had some trouble fitting in with Cleveland's system, but the Cavaliers appear pleased with how it's working.

He played 19 minutes in a 100-91 victory over New York on Friday, finishing with seven points and four rebounds. Cleveland held a double-digit lead for most of that game, which may have contributed to his lack of playing time.

Reigning MVP LeBron James scored 33 points with eight rebounds and nine assists.

Despite the series loss to the Magic, James put up big numbers by averaging 38.5 points, 8.3 rebounds and eight assists. Including playoff games, however, the Cavaliers have lost six straight and eight of nine in Orlando.

After falling by 28 to Oklahoma City on Sunday, the Magic bounced back with a 93-81 victory at Charlotte on Tuesday. Howard finished with 15 points, 10 rebounds and six assists while Carter made a surprise return from a sore left ankle to finish with 15 points off the bench.

Carter -- Orlando's big offseason acquisition -- had missed four of the previous five games and didn't think he'd be able to play after not participating in the morning's shootaround. He was feeling better later in the day, however, and asked if he could come off the bench for only the eighth time in 781 career games.

"I got here and I was doing the (scouting) board and Vince came in and said he was going to give it a shot," coach Stan Van Gundy said. "I was totally surprised."

Carter averaged 19.0 points against the Cavaliers last season while with New Jersey, but shot only 37.5 percent in those games.
 
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Sorry it took so long, and i know i probably completely messed up on the Magics starters. Went by the espn depth chart cuz i kind of been out of the loop. But will put the finishing touches on this tomorrow. Just wanted to get something up.
 
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Anderson isn't playing, he's out so you can add him to your injury report.

Also, Vince may not start either. And if he does, JJ Redick will start at the 2.

Just helping ya out.

Our SL will probably be one of these two:

Nelson/Redick/Carter/Bass/Howard or Nelson/Redick/Barnes/Bass/Howard
 
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Anderson isn't playing, he's out so you can add him to your injury report.

Also, Vince may not start either. And if he does, JJ Redick will start at the 2.

Just helping ya out.

Our SL will probably be one of these two:

Nelson/Redick/Carter/Bass/Howard or Nelson/Redick/Barnes/Bass/Howard

I read that and my heart dropped. Then i realized you are talking about the other team then I proceeded to curse you out.......but in a nice way.:thumbup:
 
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I am an eternal optimist... But I feel like LeBron comes out fired up and the team follows his lead. I think we win this by at least 10 points and quells some of the haters.
 
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Nice preview DJG! Excellent starting lineup pics!

It's all going to come down to Shaq on Dwight in my opinion. We brought in the Diesel to muscle up on opponents' bigs, so we need to use him effectively here and plug him in when Dwight is on the court (or as much as possible). Unlike the home opener with Kendrick Perkins stepping out for an easy jumper to draw Shaq out, Dwight will prefer to slam it home or go for a hook, and we know his post game isn't fully developed yet. I have no doubt Shaq will be physical, and that toughness is exactly what we need, the thing we were lacking and a main contributing factor to our ECF loss.

So with Shaq and Dwight canceling each other out, the Cavs will have to do a few things to ensure a W. For one, I'd attack the basket non-stop and force the refs to make a call. Dwight has been in foul trouble a lot this season and to make things easier the Cavs should try and follow suit. Becoming a jump shooting team will play right into the Magic's hands, and if they get hot, we can't compete with that style of play. Attack the basket and be physical. Also, if you have a one-on-one scenario with Vince you better take it to him, we know how he is with his defensive capabilities. I'm also hoping we see a lot of Delonte and Moon on the floor, their perimeter defense will be quite helpful.

I haven't watched the Magic hardly at all this season, but if thier anything like last year they have that one portion of the game where they go on an insane run. It's important the Cavaliers maintain their poise and play smart basketball. When the 3s fall (and I'm sure at one point they will) it's important not to go for an instant reaction (as in a Lebron "save the day" three ball without a single pass). Play your game, be physical, and leave the panicking to Stan Van Gundy.
 
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Nice work on the game thread DJG!!

No excuses this time. We have had plenty of days to rest, the coaches have had lots of time to game plan, time to get the job done.
 
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=280211019

lol our last win in orlando featured 40 points from larry hughes, seven attempted shots from starting "shooting guard" ira newble, dwayne jones playing 22 minutes and hot buttered donny hoisting up 10 shots in 16 minutes and only making three of them...oh boy was that a helluva team
 
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Why does that last cheerleader look like that chick from law and order SVU?
 
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Even if we win tonight, we still have to listen from Orlando's fans how the team isn't at full strength. I don't care about the win/loss. I just want to see the team function more cohesively. I hope after four days, the team has been able to get integrated a little bit better.
 
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As long as we win, I don't care what their fans have to say.
 
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This is proof that a womans armpits can have a 5 O'Clock Shadow.
 
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It's a real shame andeson is out for them. I dont get how orlando can moan about players being out, their bench is interchangable with their starters, they play perimeter game hoisting triples. With anderson out they now have bass at the 4, which means they will have to adjust their sets a little, making it less like how a possible playoff series will go. I was looking forward to seeing how the length on the wing allowed the cavs to match up, that to me is a bigger decision maker than shaq on howard as i fully expect shaq to pick up fouls quickly. After all they already moaning to officials 8 games in.
 
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Ok Shaq time to earn your pay check. Shaq btw your wife is going to rape you in spousal support and child support payments. I suggest you find the fountain of youth, your going to need a nice contract extensions to help you make ends meet. 15 and 10 Shaq, abuse Howard and the money will come. PS Shaq, Shawnie said she prefers the way the new and younger superman lays the pipe.

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Shaq just remember when your playing Dwight tonight, he is going to beat your kids fuck your wife, and help spend your millions.


GO GET HIM!
 

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