Gordon Hayward Safari

[Soar]

I understand why the strong Dion supports don't want Hayward since it means the end of Dion.

So on that level, I'm sympathetic.

But let's not act like Hayward is an abomination to the game of basketball.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

You could, but again, Dion is going to have a higher trade value because of his contract situation and his upside. Basically the series of moves I'm talking about "trades" cap space and Dion's potential for immediate production. That's obviously a "trade" that must be done very carefully or we could lose out and end up with a lower ceiling as a team. But we've heard multiple times that the Cavs' front office wants to go all-in this offseason, and this is how you do it, for better or for worse.

Yeah, this seems pretty obvious. There aren't quality big men in FA, so the only way to acquire one is via a trade. To do that, you need assets, and our best trade bait other than Wiggins is Dion, because he's still on the rookie salary. But, if you trade him, you've left a hole on your roster. Enter Hayward to fill that prospective hole.

 

[gourimoko]

You can't.

Your Waiters bias, while deserved, is overwhelmingly evident.

Bias? Waiters didn't have a down year. We don't know what to expect from Hayward. Waiters is also not $15M playing at the wing which we seem to already have covered.

 

[AuxiliaryPie]

This is about the only way im cool with trading Dion. Which isnt even one of the main reasons i want Hayward, just a ton of icing on the proverbial cake

 

[Soar]

Bias? Waiters didn't have a down year. We don't know what to expect from Hayward. Waiters is also not $15M playing at the wing which we seem to already have covered.

Hayward is more proven than Dion imo.

Plus we have a brand new system and coaching staff. So expectations for guys are hard to predict in general.

 

[bigfoot5415]

I like it more than a max for Larry Hughes, so that's a thing

Hayward will never have a website like this: http://heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com/

Do you think Larry Hughes is laughing?
Hell yes. He gets to play a game for a living and is paid tens of millions of dollars in the process. He’s living the dream. Meanwhile, you’re reading my crappy blog. I’d say he’s laughing at both of us.

 

[catfish]

Is it just me or has there been more bad reporting this free agency period then every before. Even the top guys have had to retract or fudge numerous times. Not sure what this is all about.

 

[gourimoko]

Hayward is more proven than Dion imo.

Where do you project Hayward's ceiling to be in 4 years? Box score wise per 36 assuming he's the second option?

 

[Futuredome]

Safari on life support.

 

[Daniel89]

I would be extremely pissed if we pay Hayward anything close to a max... if anything, spend that kind of money on a Center and not on somebody who's basically redundant with the drafting of Wiggins... What is wrong with a Wiggins-Waiters-Kyrie lineup? I don't understand the interest in Hayward at all...

 

[Anglefan]

What was Utah's reasoning for not offering him an extension last offseason?

 

[Lazor]

Not happy to see us overpay for Hayward but he definitely makes this team better. Would like to see us trade Dion for a solid center.

 

[Derek]

Where do you project Hayward's ceiling to be in 4 years? Box score wise per 36 assuming he's the second option?

Why do you always ask about projected box scores?

I think Hayward is going to help us win games, and of Irving and Wiggins develop properly, I think Hayward is the perfect guy to have with them. I see him making a more positive impact alongside those two than I would see Waiters having.

 

[Zen]

What was Utah's reasoning for not offering him an extension last offseason?

They offered him 4 years 48 mil

 

[Douglar]

Safari on life support.

Something's going on. Just not sure what the offer sheet looks like.