Hackers Release Information on Westboro Baptist Church Members After CT Threat

[Maximus]

I have liked the idea in the past of volunteers creating a human wall to block the protestors and keep them from getting too close. Fight fire with fire. Both actions are legal, only the latter is moral though.

If i'm a police chief in a town where they are protesting, I have someone drive by them and yell "God loves gays!". The minute one of them opens their mouths to yell back I have them all arrested for disturbing the peace. I'd do it the minute they set up camp. I'd also have council pass an ordinance in advance that makes it a $50,000 fine per person for disturbing the peace at a funeral.

 

[Lee]

If i'm a police chief in a town where they are protesting, I have someone drive by them and yell "God loves gays!". The minute one of them opens their mouths to yell back I have them all arrested for disturbing the peace. I'd do it the minute they set up camp. I'd also have council pass an ordinance in advance that makes it a $50,000 fine per person for disturbing the peace at a funeral.

Deserving, but unconstitutional as the fine is clearly aimed at the Church. I wish they would go away though. They are all related, so hopefully soon the inbreeding kicks end and they start dieing off.

 

[Scholar]

Deserving, but unconstitutional as the fine is clearly aimed at the Church. I wish they would go away though. They are all related, so hopefully soon the inbreeding kicks end and they start dieing off.

Perhaps, but, what if they instead required a permit with the city to assemble that had a decent lead time to be processed. It could even include a requirement to attend a safety seminar by all participants that intend to be in the assembly. After all, public safety is paramount. :chuckles:

 

[Lee]

Perhaps, but, what if they instead required a permit with the city to assemble that had a decent lead time to be processed. It could even include a requirement to attend a safety seminar by all participants that intend to be in the assembly. After all, public safety is paramount. :chuckles:

They know what they are doing and have won civil suits against families and municipalities for denying them a reasonable attempt at their free speech rights. I hate them, and they were almost public enemy number one, but i am so sickened by what the asshat did in CT, it makes it almost seem not that bad. I am not afraid to admit i cried some watching the news and gave my kids even bigger hugs than usual at bed time. This one really got to me. There is a reason why i am staying away from that thread.

 

[Otsego Mar]

James Hetfield also said I've fucked a sheep, I've fucked a goat. I rammed my cock right down his throat.

lol touche my friend.

 

[Otsego Mar]

Is hacking good or bad?

In this instance, yes.

Is protesting bad? If you protest a funeral, YES.

You must present stronger arguments if you're going to win this case, sir.

Ok, so face value, is hacking bad? Sure.

Is protesting bad? No.

However, are drugs bad? Answer me that. You can't just say YES or NO. Context my friend.

 

[KI4MVP]

They know what they are doing and have won civil suits against families and municipalities for denying them a reasonable attempt at their free speech rights. I hate them, and they were almost public enemy number one, but i am so sickened by what the asshat did in CT, it makes it almost seem not that bad. I am not afraid to admit i cried some watching the news and gave my kids even bigger hugs than usual at bed time. This one really got to me. There is a reason why i am staying away from that thread.

they are adding grief to the very people who suffered from the actions of the shooter. Rather than make what they're doing not seem so bad, it only compounds how bad it seems.

 

[Otsego Mar]

If i'm a police chief in a town where they are protesting, I have someone drive by them and yell "God loves gays!". The minute one of them opens their mouths to yell back I have them all arrested for disturbing the peace. I'd do it the minute they set up camp. I'd also have council pass an ordinance in advance that makes it a $50,000 fine per person for disturbing the peace at a funeral.

Now that's a good use of fear.

 

[Otsego Mar]

Yes the hackers crossed an ethical line. Also a legal one.

Do I agree with these scumbags? No, nobody does. Does that mean that someone should post their personal information online so other's can do whatever they want with it, and you know damn well someone is going to get their property or person harmed from this information.

What if you were a member of a group that wasn't so popular and they decided to spout out your information. You have to think about that slippery slope because that's where it will all travel. Even though these guys are shitheads, the hackers violated their privacy rights and I'm not cool with that.

Now someone go murder a few of them anyway and we can protest their funeral

Agreed. Which is why you simply BAN protesting at funerals. And No, I don't want to hear bullshit about infringing upon rights. We need to change our values about our rights. Jack keeps bringing up the fact it's a legal happening. Just make it illegal.

 

[Lee]

they are adding grief to the very people who suffered from the actions of the shooter. Rather than make what they're doing not seem so bad, it only compounds how bad it seems.

Oh I agree., Protesting a dead soldiers funeral? Dead kids funeral? The list goes on and on. But at the end of the day, free speech comes at a price. The good news is that people have started to volunteer and make human shields around the protestors to lesson the effect for those that are grieving.

 

[Otsego Mar]

Deserving, but unconstitutional as the fine is clearly aimed at the Church. I wish they would go away though. They are all related, so hopefully soon the inbreeding kicks end and they start dieing off.

And what if they don't?

What if we all just sit with our thumbs up our asses and keep letting this shit happen, the advancement of hatred and stupidity?

How big is the WBC? Lets say it has 500 members. In another few years, it could have thousands. And then hundreds of thousands, and then the minority becomes the majority, because "these people have the RIGHT to protest a funeral". Absolutely nonsensical.

Our rights are taken away every day by the government (we are just too blind to see it most of the time). I'm no longer willing to play politically correct, and I take YOUR SO CALLED RIGHT to protest a funeral and shove it up your goddamn ass (not directed toward anyone )

 

[Otsego Mar]

they are adding grief to the very people who suffered from the actions of the shooter. Rather than make what they're doing not seem so bad, it only compounds how bad it seems.

But, they have rights.

We need to change our ideology folks. Our priorities are fucked.

 

[Maximus]

In this instance, yes.

Got it...there's gray areas and we can't always define things as good or bad.

Going to have to side with the others calling you a hypocrite.

 

[Otsego Mar]

Got it...there's gray areas and we can't always define things as good or bad.

Going to have to side with the others calling you a hypocrite.

You haven't answered my question.

Is protesting a funeral good or bad?

There is no gray area here.

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This is really appalling to me. We, at least based on what I understand, as a collective nation, would rather not infringe upon the rights of the WBC to protest a funeral, but we're OK with infringing upon the rights to bear arms because we actually think it's going to make a difference?

It. Is. The. Ideology. I'm a hypocrite because I want the right to bear arms, but I don't want people to have the right to protest a funeral? Got it.

The right to bear arms does not imply the right to shoot somebody.

The right to protest a funeral....what exactly do this do for anybody?

 

[KI4MVP]

Got it...there's gray areas and we can't always define things as good or bad.

Going to have to side with the others calling you a hypocrite.

There are grey areas. An extreme example. If world war II was happening today, would hackers working to bring down Hitler be good or bad?