Holgrem Presser

[Pyro]

"If you're not with us, you're against us."

I still can't believe Holmgren dropped that...? I didn't hear it personally but Rizzo keeps referencing it.

Oh he did. He even said "DON'T DO THAT!" and banged his fists on the table like that fucking green ghost from Ghost Busters waiting for more food.

 

[Chris]

I agree with a lot of what I heard.

Grossi is a douche, so is much of the media. Those who aren't douches are just plain hacks. In addition, people jumping to conclusions after less than 2 years of this regime need to take a trip to he 480 bridge. I'm tired of neurotic Browns Fan. Really tired of it. I'm as upset and pissed as a lot of you. Do I like Shurmur? Hell, he hasn't shown me a damn thing really. But the fucking coach isn't going to make the team. The players will. Right now, you really lack players. That's what it comes down to. You don't suck because your rookie head coach has made a few mistakes.

 

[Soda]

From what I've heard Mike was already disgruntled towards media people like Rizzo, the 92.3 morning crew and others because they make claims like where was Holmgrem at the away games. When he's really there and just because they don't show him on TV they assume he may not have been/claim he wasn't there.

Yup and all day yesterday they threw words in his mouth all day. They sat around and impersonated him as saying, "how dare you question me, the all holy Mike Holmgren," and not willing to buy anything he said. I'd be frustraded too in his position. People assuming what you're thinking and doing out of sight is annoying when it is perpetual. To add on it, everyone is saying that there has been no improvement from Mangini last year without considering that we had fucking David Bowens as a starting linebacker and Robaire Smith as a DE. Those guys don't have jobs this year, no shit we're having problems with talent on the roster. It isn't hard to figure out, but the media would rather just poke at deficiencies than critique the team. I think it is pathetic and all of the journalists are butt-hurt old people clamoring that it never use to be like this (in the damn 80's). Get over it Cleveland media, it is time to let go of your walker and move forward.

 

[Shakalu M.D.]

Starting Seneca is going to be interesting if Colt can't go. We will be able to see how the offense operates under a different QB. At the same time, he's probably better than Colt so having Colt in the game increases our chances of losing.

 

[Randolphkeys]

Some members of the Cleveland sports media have been around for 20 years and literally have no concept of how to do their jobs well. Some, not all, are sensationalist hacks compared to others around the country. Peyton Hillis is was made to be a scapegoat who protested playing the game... while all the while he had a hamstring injury. Philly isn't blaming their rough season on some Jeremy Maclin conspiracy theory are they?

I'm leaning towards Holmgren on this one...

 

[Chris]

Starting Seneca is going to be interesting if Colt can't go. We will be able to see how the offense operates under a different QB. At the same time, he's probably better than Colt so having Colt in the game increases our chances of losing.

Pretty predictable what happens. Seneca Wallace plays Sunday, wins the game vs Arizona, proves Colt blows, fucks up Browns draft positioning.

 

[RealKingofCleve]

Yeah fuck the media. How dare they ask tough questions and keep pressing Holmgren on it! They should just accept that this regime is right on track to building a contender, instead of doing their jobs. Some of you H&H dick riders need to get a grip. The media is just doing their job, you think the media in New York and Boston don't question the organizational leadership?

 

[elcheato]

No one minds tough questions, they mind idiotic questions.

 

[RealKingofCleve]

No one minds tough questions, they mind idiotic questions.

For example?

 

[BooyaCS]

For example?

What tough questions like the ones of How dare you not win right now while trying to build a young team. Damn it we want a title so bad we don't care if we suck for the next 50 years just win us a title NOW. You mean that mentality? So people cannot grow into their jobs and should only get their job if they have experience and not potential? With that line of thought all businesses will fail in 30 - 50 years when everyone working for them dies out...

 

[I.K.W.T]

Oh Hemoglobin, I love your ways.

 

[Huber.]

All I have to say is don't come to me for extra playoff tickets in 20 years.

 

[RealKingofCleve]

What tough questions like the ones of How dare you not win right now while trying to build a young team. Damn it we want a title so bad we don't care if we suck for the next 50 years just win us a title NOW. You mean that mentality? So people cannot grow into their jobs and should only get their job if they have experience and not potential? With that line of thought all businesses will fail in 30 - 50 years when everyone working for them dies out...

I was looking for more of a specific question

 

[The Voice]

Some members of the Cleveland sports media have been around for 20 years and literally have no concept of how to do their jobs well. Some, not all, are sensationalist hacks compared to others around the country. Peyton Hillis is was made to be a scapegoat who protested playing the game... while all the while he had a hamstring injury. Philly isn't blaming their rough season on some Jeremy Maclin conspiracy theory are they?

I'm leaning towards Holmgren on this one...

:chuckles:

The night before his strep throat he was seen at Chille's drinking at the bar.

In San Francisco he was taped throwing and kicking the football around. The veterans had an intervention with him. Then he rides the media bus back. You can't make this shit up!

If he's hurt, then why the hell is he kicking a football around and throwing it? If my hamstring fucking hurts, I'm not going to be doing that shit.

Yeah fuck the media. How dare they ask tough questions and keep pressing Holmgren on it! They should just accept that this regime is right on track to building a contender, instead of doing their jobs. Some of you H&H dick riders need to get a grip. The media is just doing their job, you think the media in New York and Boston don't question the organizational leadership?

That's fine, but they shouldn't make things up. If they don't know the answer then they shouldn't really comment on it as if it's fact. Holmgrem has been at every single away game. To say he's not is an absolute farce.

 

[Shakalu M.D.]

:chuckles:

The night before his strep throat he was seen at Chille's drinking at the bar.

Strep can hit fast. One time I was fine at my buddies house. I stood up to leave and all of a sudden was dizzy as hell. I had a fever of 102 that struck in what seemed like a matter of minutes.