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I think the trade of Camby basically means the Nuggets are in rebuilding mode...

There's no way they can compete now or withing the next two years, when AI will be at his best...

It seems like the Camby trade as a big slap in the face to AI and Melo, telling them that they couldn't get it done together... (it's true though)

So, do you guys think AI is in play now? I really do, as I don't think it makes sense to hang onto him right now... He'll be expiring and he'll probably won't re-sign in Denver, so I think they'll try to shop him a long with one of their bad contracts and try to get something for him...

I think Cleveland and Denver would be two good teams for a trade...

We have the contracts that can match up with AI and say a Kenyon Martin... Not only that but we have the expiring contracts that their owner is looking for... They're looking to slash the payroll at all costs and if we can take on a bad contract, I think we can get AI for expiring contracts and some decent young talent...

I guess the bottom line would be, would you take AI?

I agree that if the right deal comes along you have to, but I'd pretty much give them anyone beside West, Gibson, LeBron or Ilgauskas... Anyone else is in play and I'd do pretty much any reasonable deal...

Yes he is declining but I think he gives you pretty much everything you would want in a sidekick to LeBron: a lethal scorer, decently efficient, consistent, tough, relatively durable, able of carrying a team and clutch...

He's not an ideal option but I think he's one of the better options out there... His shooting %'s and age worry me the most... He just turned 33 and I have to wonder how much he has left in the tank... He's shown signs of decline but he's still a tremendous player...

I'm not too worried defensively because I think we can hide him, especially with MB as our coach...

As far as position, unless we could fine a big PG, I'd just stick him at PG... He's shown the ability to distribute the ball and I think putting him at the PG spot is doable with this team, as we don't need a true PG...

As far as trade...

I think this might work:

Steven Hunter
Kenyon Martin
Allen Iverson

for

Sasha Pavlovic
Eric Snow
Wally Szczerbiak
Anderson Varejao

Iverson / Gibson / Jones
??? / ??? / Thomas
James / ??? / Hickson
Martin / Smith / Jackson
Ilgauskas / Wallace / Hunter

(I know Hickson is not a SF, I just put him there to see what a the roster would look like, numbers wise)..

We'd definitely need to get a wing player... I think using a guy like Steven Hunter and Damon Jones as trade bait could pull us something...

We could then go out and sign Josh Childress for the full MLE, hopefully they don't match it, and we have our starting SG...

That part is just kind of dreaming, but what do you guys think about AI to the Cavs in general? Would you want him and do you think it's realistic?
 
After the Camby trade my first thought was, I wonder if AI is on the block as well. I agree with the thought that AI and Carmelo are probably not taking this trade well. They made the playoffs last year, and it seems the owner is already into rebuilding mode because he thinks they can't get it done. If they couldn't get it done with Camby at center, they certainly won't be able to do it with Nene at center.

This trade actually seems like a possibility around mid-season when there is turmoil in Denver, and I would certainly welcome AI. He took Philly deep into the playoffs, and it's not like he's had that big of a dropoff, if at all from that season. If the guy wants to win, he's always gonna do what he can to win the game. I think Lebron and AI teaming up would be very dangerous for the league to be honest.
 
I think Denver would rather just want to play out Iversons Contract, he is an expiring so why would they want to deal expirings for expiring. Maybe we could get it done, but we'd have to put in alot of our talent. Delonte, Varejao and a first.
 
Yah a lot of talk about how Cleveland and Devenr are GREAT tradeing partners. I'd love to have AI.. AI and LeBron would be INSANE.
 
Cant give expirings for expirings.

Maybe Wally, Delonte and a 1st for AI
 
never been a big fan of AI.... and I'm nowhere near confident that he'll mesh with James...
 
If Denver is in fire sale mode, it could be a realistic possibility..

And if it doesn't work, he walks...
 
I don't think they will give up Steven Hunter now that they don't have Camby. That would leave Hilario as their only true center, i think.

I am kind of torn. I think AI might be enough to push us over the top. I also think it could all come crashing down and burn with him as well and maybe even lead to Lebron leaving. So in the end I don't think I'd take the chance on AI... although it's ultra-tempting.
 
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king_james23 said:
I think Denver would rather just want to play out Iversons Contract, he is an expiring so why would they want to deal expirings for expiring. Maybe we could get it done, but we'd have to put in alot of our talent. Delonte, Varejao and a first.
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Because Hunter and Martin aren't expirings. ;)
 
Here's what I tried on realgm.com

Denver Trades:
Keyon Martin
Allen Iverson

Cavs Trade:
Damon Jones
Joe Smith
Eric Snow
Wally Szczerbiak

If Denver is really having a fire sale, this might work for them. All of the players I've listed have contracts expiring after this season. I don't know how salaries really work, but they might even get Eric Snow to retire and not count on the books. Not too sure about it though.

AI would obviously give us a great scoring boost which we missed in the playoffs. K-Mart could come back to Ohio and wouldn't be a bad swap for Joe Smith at the 4. Just wanted to throw this out there...

realgm trade checker id is 4735061
 
Sounds like the Nuggets would be interested in trading AI (and anyone else for that matter) if the price was right.

http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/nuggets/archives/2008/07/will_iverson_be.html

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Indications are the Nuggets would trade Iverson if the deal was right. They'd also trade Kenyon Martin or Nene, if anybody wanted either. And owner Stan Kroenke would be willing to deal the Rocky Mountains if he owned them and it would keep him from paying the luxury tax.
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