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Sizing up the August trade candidates

By Jerry Crasnick
ESPN.com

The July non-waiver trade deadline has passed, and Major League Baseball's August trade deadline is approaching.

It's the same thing, only with more gamesmanship, smaller names in play and no real sense of anticipation.

Players now have to clear waivers before they can be dealt, which complicates matters. Pass through waivers without being claimed, and you're free to be traded anywhere. For underperforming players with fat contracts, the waiver process should be a snap. (That means you, Vernon Wells and Barry Zito.)

Conversely, star players with sizable contracts and young, talented, inexpensive players are sure to be claimed. This universe of names extends from A (Albert Pujols) to Z (Jordan Zimmermann).

There's no risk in exposing a player to waivers. If a player is claimed, Team A can either pull him back and keep him or step aside and lose him to Team B, which assumes the claimed player's entire salary. The latter scenario occurred two years ago when the Los Angeles Dodgers claimed pitcher Esteban Loaiza on waivers from Oakland.

Teams also have a 48-hour window to work out a trade. And although some clubs make waiver claims to block players from going to competitors, a claim might be a sign of genuine interest in a deal.

So who's likely to move this month? Adam Dunn and Greg Maddux were traded last August, but Matt Stairs, Scott Eyre, Chad Bradford, Mark Kotsay, Eddie Guardado, Luis Ayala, Jose Bautista, Horacio Ramirez and David Eckstein were the more conventional August-type pickups.

As long as a player is acquired by Aug. 31, he can appear on a postseason roster. The Phillies picked up Stairs from Toronto with two days left in August last season, and six weeks later, Stairs hit a huge home run off Jonathan Broxton in the National League Championship Series.

"Down the stretch, it's either the bat off the bench or teams are trying to beef up their bullpens,'' an American League assistant GM said. "It's veteran guys who are making a little money and might have a little left to help a club get to the finish line. They're usually the strongest candidates to go.''

Team finances, of course, will play a major role in the decision-making process.

"The last two years, you've seen fairly active blocking,'' an AL executive said. "But so many clubs are cautious about where we are economically, I think you're going to see guys clearing waivers who have any amount of money attached to them.''

Which names will be in the news this month? We take a look at some August trade candidates in this week's installment of Starting 9.

#7 Carl Pavano, Indians
Now that Cliff Lee, Victor Martinez, Mark DeRosa, Rafael Betancourt and Ryan Garko are off the books, Cleveland general manager Mark Shapiro wouldn't be averse to moving a little more inventory.
Kerry Wood might help a contender, but he has a 5.11 ERA in 37 innings and more than $13 million still owed to him on a two-year deal. Good luck with that.

Pavano has been bothered by a wandering case of home run-itis. But he has 11 quality starts -- the same number as CC Sabathia and John Danks -- and he's shown enough flashes to make you wonder why his ERA is 5.37. The Tigers must have wondered after he dominated them with six hits over eight innings in an 11-1 Cleveland win Sunday.

Factor in Pavano's incentive bonuses, and he'll cost a team a little more than $1 million the rest of the way. At that price, he's unlikely to generate much interest. But he's out there for the taking.

Other names listed as possibilities: Kerry Wood and Jamey Carroll, Cleveland

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=crasnick_jerry&page=starting9/090805
 
Why even bother? Might get a bag of chips for him I guess.
 
Why? He is like our best pitcher considering what our team looks like.
 
I don't know what chance Pavano has of being claimed or traded, but I would say Carrol has a better chance. I don't know what his salary is though and what a team would have to pay for him the rest of the year. He could help someone as that important fill-in. Pavano's next start will be important.

But yeah, if we trade either of them, don't expect much at all in return.
 
Why? He is like our best pitcher considering what our team looks like.
Because we aren't in a winning situation so why have him take away starts from younger guys?
 
He has pitched well for us, and I like him on the team but I say we should trade him so he can have the chance to get a ring, and not pitch here where their is no chance of winning anything.
 
Jamey Carroll will be after him.

I was listening to the Hoynes Indians Chat and he said we are just going to get cash for the guys.
 
Jamey Carroll will be after him.

I was listening to the Hoynes Indians Chat and he said we are just going to get cash for the guys.

Stick some $$$ in Dolan's wallet to ease the pain I guess
 
Pavano has two very attainable incentives in his contract that I'm positive Dolan isn't going to want to pay.

The Indians would have to shell out something like 3-4M more dollars if Pavano hits 190 innings and 32 starts.

Right now he's on pace to hit both of those incentives. There is absolutely a strong financial reason to move him, for literally anything. I bet the Indians would take a C level prospect or cash for him.
 
Article from ESPN:

The Cleveland Indians and free-agent pitcher Carl Pavano agreed to a one-year, $1.5 million contract on Tuesday.

Pavano can make another $5.3 million in performance bonuses, based on starts from 18-35 and innings from 130-235.
 
Why? He is like our best pitcher considering what our team looks like.

The team plans on moving Masterson into the rotation here soon and they would need to clear a spot. Currently, the rotation stands as Carmona, Pavano, Laffey, Huff and Sowers. Jake Westbrook will also be coming back, if he doesn't have another setback, by September 1st. Scott Lewis is also a possibility as he just started his rehab, too.

The club has to get a look these young guys like Huff, Lewis, Sowers, Laffey, etc. Would be a good thing for both sides, Tribe and Pavano. Plus, Carl has pitched 125 innings this year. This i the first time in 4 years he has thrown this many innings. He is starting to wear down it looks like. Heck, if the Tribe likes him that much, he will no doubt be available again come the offseason.
 
The team plans on moving Masterson into the rotation here soon and they would need to clear a spot. Currently, the rotation stands as Carmona, Pavano, Laffey, Huff and Sowers. Jake Westbrook will also be coming back, if he doesn't have another setback, by September 1st. Scott Lewis is also a possibility as he just started his rehab, too.

The club has to get a look these young guys like Huff, Lewis, Sowers, Laffey, etc. Would be a good thing for both sides, Tribe and Pavano. Plus, Carl has pitched 125 innings this year. This i the first time in 4 years he has thrown this many innings. He is starting to wear down it looks like. Heck, if the Tribe likes him that much, he will no doubt be available again come the offseason.

He certainly didn't show signs of wearing down in his last start.. :confused:
 
He certainly didn't show signs of wearing down in his last start.. :confused:

He did in the past two starts before that, though. And he has been pretty mediocre since May. Hitting a wall is/was one of the concerns with him b/c he pitched so little the last 3 years, and the Tribe skipped him in the rotation for a turn in both June and July.

I just don't think they need to hold onto him if they feel a need to get a look at some of these young guys. See if the Marlins are willing to give anything up and let him return to the place of his one year of glory.
 
I don't get this at all. Next year, we need starting pitching. Why not offer Pavano a reasonable deal? He won't command the big bucks. He will probably be looking for multiple years, but that may be do-able at the right price. Shapiro said we are going to have some flexibility in the free agent market this off-season - why not start now?

Pavano might surprise them and sign the contract. He seems to be happy here. He already made his big bucks in NY.

It wouldn't break my heart if he left, but I hate to get nothing for a guy that might actually be able to contribute next year. Inexpensive starters don't grow on trees.
 
I don't get this at all. Next year, we need starting pitching. Why not offer Pavano a reasonable deal? He won't command the big bucks. He will probably be looking for multiple years, but that may be do-able at the right price. Shapiro said we are going to have some flexibility in the free agent market this off-season - why not start now?

Pavano might surprise them and sign the contract. He seems to be happy here. He already made his big bucks in NY.

It wouldn't break my heart if he left, but I hate to get nothing for a guy that might actually be able to contribute next year. Inexpensive starters don't grow on trees.

Starters with 5.37 ERAs that you are afraid could get hurt in any game because they haven't pitched this many innings in four years... basically do grow on trees.
 

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