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Johnny Manziel: Swan Won't Return His Calls

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I think he loses more than the city and the fans. I think he starts to lose the defense if he starts Hoyer.

I'd say his job may be in jeopardy, but he could just overrule Haslam when he goes to fire him.
 
A couple quick thoughts:

1. The title change was an unmitigated bad choice. Believe it or not, we have standards here. Wait for proof.

2. People forget that the team and coaches have seen what Johnny can and can't do. Yes, fans should be frustrated by Hoyer after this game. They should be looking at all the errors all the offensive players made, but that requires a keen eye.

3. What happens when you throw out a guy who isn't ready to read defenses, can't make progressions, and hasn't been able to grasp the playbook? I think the projections by fans that they know Manziel's level of preparation better than professionals is well intentioned, but at the end of the day Johnny Manziel should play when he is actually ready to play.
 
A couple quick thoughts:

1. The title change was an unmitigated bad choice. Believe it or not, we have standards here. Wait for proof.

2. People forget that the team and coaches have seen what Johnny can and can't do. Yes, fans should be frustrated by Hoyer after this game. They should be looking at all the errors all the offensive players made, but that requires a keen eye.

3. What happens when you throw out a guy who isn't ready to read defenses, can't make progressions, and hasn't been able to grasp the playbook? I think the project tions by fans that they know Manziel' s level of preparation better than professionals is well intentions, but at the end of the day Johnny Manziel should play when he is actually ready to play.

One quick thought:

1. He can't be any worse than Hoyer.
 
just seeing Manziel throw a nice deep ball at Texas AM is enough for me after seeing Hoyers deep balls the past 4 weeks
 
Trolling about this 60-yarder.

Enough already.

Just because you thought it was a good idea doesn't mean that everyone else did.

A couple quick thoughts:

1. The title change was an unmitigated bad choice. Believe it or not, we have standards here. Wait for proof.

Agreed, the title was misleading.

2. People forget that the team and coaches have seen what Johnny can and can't do. Yes, fans should be frustrated by Hoyer after this game. They should be looking at all the errors all the offensive players made, but that requires a keen eye.

It all starts at quarterback, sorry. You aren't going to be able to blame other players for the loss today. Bottom line is Hoyer played like shit. I'm tired of hearing "I need to play better", do it or get lost.

3. What happens when you throw out a guy who isn't ready to read defenses, can't make progressions, and hasn't been able to grasp the playbook? I think the project tions by fans that they know Manziel' s level of preparation better than professionals is well intentions, but at the end of the day Johnny Manziel should play when he is actually ready to play.

How is he supposed to learn if he never touches the field?


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Just because you thought it was a good idea doesn't mean that everyone else did.

I know Pettine has done an incredible job this season when all people are left to troll with is a 60-yard field goal at the half of a game they won.
 
One quick thought:

1. He can't be any worse than Hoyer.

Developing a raw quarterback prospect correctly is an art form that past Browns teams turned into a minimum wage Subway "sandwich artist" slapping cold cuts onto spongy disgusting bread.

Start Manziel when he is ready.
 
Developing a raw quarterback prospect correctly is an art form that past Browns teams turned into a minimum wage Subway "sandwich artist" slapping cold cuts onto spongy disgusting bread.

Start Manziel when he is ready.

You don't learn by watching you learn by doing.

Also it isn't about Manziel being ready it is about Pettine being ready to not play a vet at QB.
 
Developing a raw quarterback prospect correctly is an art form that past Browns teams turned into a minimum wage Subway "sandwich artist" slapping cold cuts onto spongy disgusting bread.

Start Manziel when he is ready.

This is true, Hoyer is at least a manager-level Mr. Hero employee.
 
You don't learn by watching you learn by doing.

Also it isn't about Manziel being ready it is about Pettine being ready to not play a vet at QB.

You learn an incredible amount of watching, actually.

Especially when you're younger than Ohio State's current starting quarterback and in the NFL.
 
I know Pettine has done an incredible job this season when all people are left to troll with is a 60-yard field goal at the half of a game they won.

He has done a decent job. Incredible would be clinched the playoffs already. Let's not get carried away. Cronell was able to go 10-6 and milk an extension out of the Browns. We need to see a larger body of work.


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You learn an incredible amount of watching, actually.

Especially when you're younger than Ohio State's current starting quarterback and in the NFL.

Do you know this by experience? When did you play in the NFL? Everyone learns differently, it's not an exact science.


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You learn an incredible amount of watching, actually.

Especially when you're younger than Ohio State's current starting quarterback and in the NFL.

What does age have to do with anything? It is the second most irrelevant trait next to expeirence
 
Right now, Manziel is in the manager in training program at Enterprise Rent a Car.
 
Developing a raw quarterback prospect correctly is an art form that past Browns teams turned into a minimum wage Subway "sandwich artist" slapping cold cuts onto spongy disgusting bread.

Start Manziel when he is ready.

How do we know he's not ready? Just because the coaching staff says so? Again, if it was that easy. Then why wasn't Tom Brady starting for the pats when Bledsoe got hurt? He was clearly the better option.


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