Kareem Hunt: One Pissed Off Runner!

[Jordan]

Tyreek Hill and Adrian Peterson need to be out of the NFL. I will never support any team - including the Browns - that employs either character.

 

[Jack Brickman]

I said it the time and I will say it again, that is a cultural thing. Southern black mothers would use a switch on their kids to discipline them. It is only this generation that considers that against the parents rights.

In the end, AP showed remorse and understanding that is not how things are done. Breaking your kids arm and showing no remorse is next level.

Just gonna leave this here:

"Upon returning to Minnesota, the Mother of the child took him to the doctor to treat the injuries. The child suffered cuts and bruises to his ankles, buttocks, legs, scrotum, and hands. The injuries to his hands are the result of defensive wounds."

I'm sorry, but this is not a cultural thing. He beat the living shit out of his kid. This is not a guy lightly giving his kid a belting for doing something bad. This is a child abuse thing.

 

[Lee]

Just gonna leave this here:

"Upon returning to Minnesota, the Mother of the child took him to the doctor to treat the injuries. The child suffered cuts and bruises to his ankles, buttocks, legs, scrotum, and hands. The injuries to his hands are the result of defensive wounds."

I'm sorry, but this is not a cultural thing. He beat the living shit out of his kid. This is not a guy lightly giving his kid a belting for doing something bad. This is a child abuse thing.

It is cultural, doesn't make it right, but it is cultural.

I have plenty of southern black friends out here that I talked to when this came up, its how they were disciplined.

 

[Man Called X]

It is cultural, doesn't make it right, but it is cultural.

I have plenty of southern black friends out here that I talked to when this came up, its how they were disciplined.

As a white man from Ohio, I can attest to this being the truth.

 

[TheISHT]

It is cultural, doesn't make it right, but it is cultural.

I have plenty of southern black friends out here that I talked to when this came up, its how they were disciplined.

It isn't. My grandma is white, made us pick our own switches, and would swat at our legs until their was blood. I grew up in NE Ohio.

 

[natedagg]

It isn't. My grandma is white, made us pick our own switches, and would swat at our legs until their was blood. I grew up in NE Ohio.

Ok it is still cultural. It doesn’t have to be delineated racially.

Broken arm.
Switch.
Belt.
Spank.
Timeout equal in minutes to the child’s age.

One of these does not fit. Anyone who can’t see Lee’s point has already made up his mind, and there’s no point in trying to educate them.
























Ok fine, 2 of these don’t fit but my wife makes parenting a no-contact sport.

 

[Ocelot]

Give me Tyreek.

Your continuing decision to post on this forum fascinates me

 

[The Oi]

Hitting a kid with a belt/switch is unnecessary. It’s learned behavior for sure. Like somebody probably wouldn’t do it unless somebody did it to them first. But as a parent with a kid who is pretty damn stubborn, I’ve never even been in that ballpark or seen other kids doing anything that I didn’t think could have been diffused with words and pulling (and I do mean physically lifting up and pulling) a kid out of a situation. I’ve literally picked my child up and walked him out of a room. I’ve grabbed my kids wrist and pulled it away from something. I’ve shouted at him (and explained I shouldn’t have afterwards bc it was a loss of control in the moment).

I’ve been able to largely handle my kid’s behavior through calm discussion of it with him during and after. And while I understand not every kid is the same and I’m by no means a perfect parent...

I’ve NEVER felt the need to hit him with something.

That’s making it about your own emotion and lack of control. That’s a lack of ability to communicate and teach a lesson. It’s abuse.

That said, if a person shows remorse and stops doing it that’s to be respected. Problem is, he didn’t. He still does it. So yeah...it’s a cultural thing, but so is dog fighting. And both are vile.

Fuck that.

 

[natedagg]

Hitting a kid with a belt/switch is unnecessary. It’s learned behavior for sure. Like somebody probably wouldn’t do it unless somebody did it to them first. But as a parent with a kid who is pretty damn stubborn, I’ve never even been in that ballpark or seen other kids doing anything that I didn’t think could have been diffused with words and pulling (and I do mean physically lifting up and pulling) a kid out of a situation. I’ve literally picked my child up and walked him out of a room. I’ve grabbed my kids wrist and pulled it away from something. I’ve shouted at him (and explained I shouldn’t have afterwards bc it was a loss of control in the moment).

I’ve been able to largely handle my kid’s behavior through calm discussion of it with him during and after. And while I understand not every kid is the same and I’m by no means a perfect parent...

I’ve NEVER felt the need to hit him with something.

That’s making it about your own emotion and lack of control. That’s a lack of ability to communicate and teach a lesson. It’s abuse.

That said, if a person shows remorse and stops doing it that’s to be respected. Problem is, he didn’t. He still does it. So yeah...it’s a cultural thing, but so is dog fighting. And both are vile.

Fuck that.

Is spanking abuse?

I just don’t think of anything like belt/spanking/switch as abuse. I think it’s correcting bad behavior and it isn’t necessarily the best way, but I don’t agree. Shrugs.

 

[dark2332]

Is spanking abuse?

I just don’t think of anything like belt/spanking/switch as abuse. I think it’s correcting bad behavior and it isn’t necessarily the best way, but I don’t agree. Shrugs.

You show me a bratty, entitled 9 year-old, and I’ll show you a child who wasn’t spanked enough as a kid.

I’m kidding. Or am I kidding? I’m not sure.

 

[Lee]

It isn't. My grandma is white, made us pick our own switches, and would swat at our legs until their was blood. I grew up in NE Ohio.

Was your grandma southern?

 

[Vee-Rex]

Spanking isn't abuse.

Is it done too often? Sure.
Should it be a last resort? Absolutely.

I think in most cases you can get away with talking to your child. But there are those times when a spanking (not a beating) will actually do some good.

Communication and conversation is absolutely essential, though.

 

[David.]

You show me a bratty, entitled 9 year-old, and I’ll show you a child who wasn’t spanked enough as a kid.

I’m kidding. Or am I kidding? I’m not sure.

And frankly if someone believes force (within reason) is justified, why would they need to show remorse? That's their belief and they could actually be right. You absolutely can tell who walked all over their parents and they are typically pieces of shit.

 

[Lee]

Hitting a kid with a belt/switch is unnecessary. It’s learned behavior for sure. Like somebody probably wouldn’t do it unless somebody did it to them first. But as a parent with a kid who is pretty damn stubborn, I’ve never even been in that ballpark or seen other kids doing anything that I didn’t think could have been diffused with words and pulling (and I do mean physically lifting up and pulling) a kid out of a situation. I’ve literally picked my child up and walked him out of a room. I’ve grabbed my kids wrist and pulled it away from something. I’ve shouted at him (and explained I shouldn’t have afterwards bc it was a loss of control in the moment).

I’ve been able to largely handle my kid’s behavior through calm discussion of it with him during and after. And while I understand not every kid is the same and I’m by no means a perfect parent...

I’ve NEVER felt the need to hit him with something.

That’s making it about your own emotion and lack of control. That’s a lack of ability to communicate and teach a lesson. It’s abuse.

That said, if a person shows remorse and stops doing it that’s to be respected. Problem is, he didn’t. He still does it. So yeah...it’s a cultural thing, but so is dog fighting. And both are vile.

Fuck that.

I have never hit either of my kids, in fact I have never punished my daughter and she is 15. (she is a straight A student and while she has a bit of teenage attitude now, nothing extreme and way to good of a kid, she needs to take a bit more risks and have fun but she isn't wired that way)

That said, I was spanked as a kid, but never with a switch or belt. My Mom's best friend used a wooden spoon or a switch, she was white, but Southern. Her daughter doesnt spank her kid even though she had a switch used on her.

I probably should have just said Southern culture, but it is more prevalant in Southern Black than just Southern. Anyways, never said it was right, i dont spank my kids, and i am glad our generation was breaking that tradition.

My main point is there is a huge difference in my eyes between what AP did and what Hill did. They are both abuse, but when is done for punishment as that is how he was raised. A punishment that not to long ago was the parents right to do, and the other was never ok, not a generation ago, never, and is just some asshole flying off the handle acting like a big man against what a 4 year old?

What i am saying is Fuck Tyreke Hill.

 

[Lee]

Spanking isn't abuse.

Is it done too often? Sure.
Should it be a last resort? Absolutely.

I think in most cases you can get away with talking to your child. But there are those times when a spanking (not a beating) will actually do some good.

Communication and conversation is absolutely essential, though.

Some will disagree on this and will think any form of violence is abuse.

Look I got paddled with a wooden paddle and leather paddle in school, now they don't do that anymore. Times are changing, but for me I don't believe in hitting a kid period.

Most professionals agree with me that hitting sends a bad message and there is other ways to correct behavior.

Either way, its a very controversial subject, atleast on the AP one, I know he took it to far in 90% of the parents minds out there, but I assure that there are some southern people out there that 100% agree with AP.

As for Hill, no one with a brain agrees with that bullshit.