Kevin Love - Miami Ground Machine

[CHIMOCHIS]

Love is a great 4th option on a winning team

getting paid like a 1st option

 

[godfather]

People keep complaining that we don't go to him enough. Look, we do, he's not assertive enough, and isn't always aggressive getting open. The offense doesn't run through him anymore, like it did in Minny.

I watched him carefully, and there are plays he doesn't even really look to get open. He'll stand on the block, and his man will front him, covered, Love will throw up his hands, and we move the ball else where. I've seen us look to get him the ball, with Love often just covered. What are they supposed to do? Force him the ball, and risk turnovers?

As a big man, you have to work to get open, and if you don't, well, you're not going to get the ball.

I don't know what is going on with him, but at this point, he's just not playing that well. He goes through stretches where he's just very passive, on both ends of the floor.

He has to adjust, we are not running the offense through him. It's not happening. I'm getting pissed, because this guy clearly isn't making the adjustments needed.

What adjustments do you want to make? Should we run the offense through him? That's not happening.

LeBron James is going to run the offense, and if LB isn't going to him, it's obvious, the dude does a poor job working to get open.

It says a lot when LB is more comfortable running the offense with Andy, than Kevin Love.

 

[LeShaq]

People keep complaining that we don't go to him enough. Look, we do, he's not assertive enough, and isn't always aggressive getting open. The offense doesn't run through him anymore, like it did in Minny.

We're not running a real offense. This is basically street ball. And I would imagine that is why Love seems to be getting ticked off and disinterested in things like rebounding.

Things need to get fixed quickly. I don't know who is at fault here but things need to get remedied.

Dion said something the other day about how when Kyrie and LeBron are off the court, he feels it's his time. If that is happening with Love on the floor, then at least one person isn't doing his job and maybe multiple people aren't doing their jobs.

 

[priceFTW]

People keep complaining that we don't go to him enough. Look, we do, he's not assertive enough, and isn't always aggressive getting open. The offense doesn't run through him anymore, like it did in Minny.

I watched him carefully, and there are plays he doesn't even really look to get open. He'll stand on the block, and his man will front him, covered, Love will throw up his hands, and we move the ball else where. I've seen us look to get him the ball, with Love often just covered. What are they supposed to do? Force him the ball, and risk turnovers?

As a big man, you have to work to get open, and if you don't, well, you're not going to get the ball.

I don't know what is going on with him, but at this point, he's just not playing that well. He goes through stretches where he's just very passive, on both ends of the floor.

That's true sometimes but other times he's wide open or has a man pinned/sealed and no pass and not even a look. He's been available every game and in those games I would say that he had great position inside or was open 5-6 times a game at least when he doesn't even get a look not to mention we don't run pick and roll with him other than that stretch in Denver when all we did was score easy lay ups three straight trips. He gets the ball on half of these missed opportunities and he's easily averaging 20-21 points a game.

 

[Simmy]

Forget the offense, I'm still most surprised by his lack of tenacity on the glass. Sure, his box score at times can be deceiving, but for a so-called elite rebounder, watching him night in, night out (after watching how Andy & Tristan have worked on the glass for their entire careers) it's becoming painfully obvious that his big rebounding numbers in Minnesota were hardly the result of hustle, tenacity, aggression and vertical athleticism. Very misleading.

There was a period (I believe in the 3rd) where I watched him defend the paint on about 3-4 straight possessions where any even basically adept rebounder could've gobbled up the board. Instead, he got outworked each time like he wasn't even standing there.

 

[LeShaq]

other times he's wide open or has a man pinned/sealed and no pass and not even a look

I think this is why his energy is getting less and less on rebounding and defense.

Love is not a guy who is going to react well to this kind of thing. At some point my guess is either he will start speaking his mind or else you will see what you are seeing, kind of "payback" on the court with a "you screw me, I screw you" attitude.

Blatt and whoever else better get things working here. This is not good.

 

[godfather]

We're not running a real offense. This is basically street ball. And I would imagine that is why Love seems to be getting ticked off and disinterested in things like rebounding.

Things need to get fixed quickly. I don't know who is at fault here but things need to get remedied.

Dion said something the other day about how when Kyrie and LeBron are off the court, he feels it's his time. If that is happening with Love on the floor, then at least one person isn't doing his job and maybe multiple people aren't doing their jobs.

Regardless of what offense we're running. I just find it very telling, that the chemistry between LeBron and Love, is just off.

I find it very surprising too.

 

[priceFTW]

Forget the offense, I'm still most surprised by his lack of tenacity on the glass. Sure, his box score at times can be deceiving, but for a so-called elite rebounder, watching him night in, night out (after watching how Andy & Tristan have worked on the glass for their entire careers) it's becoming painfully obvious that his big rebounding numbers in Minnesota were hardly the result of hustle, tenacity, aggression and vertical athleticism. Very misleading.

There was a period (I believe in the 3rd) where I watched him defend the paint on about 3-4 straight possessions where any even basically adept rebounder could've gobbled up the board. Instead, he got outworked each time like he wasn't even standing there.

It was really bad today and those ORebs given up made up the final margin along with all of James's missed FTs. I do have to say: younger Fat Love wasn't outworked like he was today. I don't know whether the lack of bulk is hurting him but he's not showing the same motor he once did.

 

[LeShaq]

Regardless of what offense we're running. I just find it very telling, that the chemistry between LeBron and Love, is just off.

I find it very surprising too.

I agree, I think the chemistry is off and I think Love is getting a bit tired of what is going on. I hope things get resolved well rather than poorly.

We're freelancing too much and not getting Love the ball enough in spots he can thrive in. It's just dumb basketball.

 

[KLove14]

Forget the offense, I'm still most surprised by his lack of tenacity on the glass. Sure, his box score at times can be deceiving, but for a so-called elite rebounder, watching him night in, night out (after watching how Andy & Tristan have worked on the glass for their entire careers) it's becoming painfully obvious that his big rebounding numbers in Minnesota were hardly the result of hustle, tenacity, aggression and vertical athleticism. Very misleading.

There was a period (I believe in the 3rd) where I watched him defend the paint on about 3-4 straight possessions where any even basically adept rebounder could've gobbled up the board. Instead, he got outworked each time like he wasn't even standing there.

He had a beast in Pekovic boxing out while in Minnesota.

 

[crabbyshark]

Whoever started the petition for the Cavs to trade Kevin Love you are a moron.

 

[wuck]

View: https://twitter.com/mcten/status/548304043249250304

 

[godfather]

Whoever started the petition for the Cavs to trade Kevin Love you are a moron.

Not really. I was originally against trading Wiggins for Kevin Love. I don't really regret the trade, I'm not that far gone yet.

But, I don't think anyone seriously anticipated him struggling this much, and not producing like we all thought he was capable of.

Blame Kevin Love. I'm tired of excuses, especially when a guy is playing bad. It's David Blatt, LeBron, the other teammates, anyone but the guy himself.

Someone like Kevin Love doesn't need catered to that badly, to play better. He's a freaking all-star, he can't adjust?

The dude has to play better, it's 100% on him. If he can't adjust to the best player in the game, then he's flat out worthless, far as I'm concern.

I'm not giving up on him, but he has to play better. There's no shame in calling him out on that.

 

[dano_24_26]

How about when Norris Cole ripped the ball off him and threw a pass for a wide open dunk. I think he may have shelled up after lebron kept yelling at him to rebound. Maybe hes just soft. There has got to be something going on. This is not good.

 

[CavsFan005]

His shot has been off the past 3-4 games I bet it has to do with his thumb. He has been throwing screwballs up there, either that or aiming it too much. Of course the offense we are running doesn't do him too many favors.

Ive just been more disappointed by his effort and lack of rebounding. If your shot is off at least crash the glass hard and try to play better defense. Dude is soft there is no question about that he will have to play tougher in the playoffs.

If we do somehow grab a center like Wright who is the perfect "fit" next to him there is no more excuses for the guy. He has got to start doing some of the intangible things it takes to win.