Kevin Love - Miami Ground Machine

[gourimoko]

Cityeon Director @gourimoko is a wizard with trades.

M. Gouri, could you explain to the lads how the Cavs can land Kemba and Howard without using the Nets pick?

Sure..

So, to get Kemba, George AND keep one of either the BKN pick OR Kevin Love; effectively you'd need a few things to be true:

1) Charlotte is still willing to attach Kemba to massive salary relief (i.e., Howard+MKG+Williams or Batum+; here we will assume worst case scenario, Batum+Howard)

2a) George is willing to opt-in and be traded, or
2b) If George isn't willing to opt-in; and demands a max contract, then LeBron has to take a paycut.

For the Hornets, the incentive to trade Kemba for salary is less enticing going into this upcoming season - so the time to make such a trade may have passed at the deadline; however, if they're still willing, we can map out how that would work...

Cavs could trade Hill, Smith, Thompson, Osman, Nance and $5.1M in salary (+potential pick from Thunder, depending) for Kemba, Howard, and Batum. The Hornets would likely prefer not to take back Thompson but instead Clarkson; that works too -- at the end of this analysis, just add the ~$5M salary difference in to the Cavs salary. But for now, let's assume they're okay taking Thompson if we include a pick from OKC.

For the Hornets, they're unloading an insane amount of salary in Batum; they're moving Howard off the team (he won't want to remain for a rebuild); they're getting back Nance for Howard which is a much better asset, and Nance is worth a first round pick. They're also getting back Cedi Osman, who looks like he could develop into a quality NBA-caliber wing.

If they could get a pick back, then that would fulfill Jordan's stated requirements for a Kemba trade (last deadline -- which, again, may not be the case any longer).

For the Cavs, we'd be sending out $56M and taking back $62M, so a net total of +$6M in salary. We'd be sending out 5 players and taking back 3, so we'd be -2 on the roster.

So immediately after this Hornets trade, the Cavs would have a salary commitment of $110.9M ... that's without LeBron signed.

To free up salary, the Cavs can stretch Batum's remaining 3 years over 7 years (3x2+1) reducing their cap hit to $10.96M/yr... It's a hefty price to pay, but this should also explain exactly why the Hornets hope to get from under this burden (because Batum is not opting out, or taking less).

This would immediately free up $14M in cap space. It actually would be slightly more than this given the set-off clause and since Batum would play again -- but it's likely that Batum would sign for the vet min over the next 3 seasons anyway, so the Cavs would be paying him to basically play on the team of his choice.

Again, see why the Hornets would be thrilled to be rid of his contract?

But by stretch/waiving Batum, the Cavs go $32M under the apron, having a payroll of ~$96.85M (pre-LeBron).

At this point, a few things can happen:

1) George opts-in and requests a trade; Cavs trade Love for George straight-up (OKC would prefer Love to the BKN pick, IMHO).

Cavs send out $24M, take back $20.7M, actually gain $3.3M in space below the apron. Cavs can resign LeBron to the full max and only be slightly in the tax (but the repeater tax)..

This isn't a sign-and-trade, and the Cavs would have they're exceptions to use to fill out the roster.

To salary would be right at the apron, or $129M.

2) George opts-out, and requests a sign-and-trade at the max.

Cavs would trade Love+Korver for George+OKC first (to go to the Hornets); Cavs are hardcapped and could sign James to a max of $33.5M - $1M (2 roster slots), so $32.5M. It might behoove James to take somewhat less so that the Cavs could use the BAE ($3.6M) or the tMLE ($5.6M) to acquire some more talent; but that'd be his call to make.

A more preferrable option in my opinion would be to change the trade from Love+Korver (which is better for OKC) to Love+Clarkson (which, IMHO, is better for the Cavs) since Kemba, James, and George can all create their own offense. Doing it this way creates $5M in additional space below the apron

So that gives you the following three outcomes:

George Opts In (Love traded):
------------------
James $35.6M (max)
Howard $25M
George $20.7M
Clarkson $12.5M
Kemba $12M
Korver: $7.5M
Zizic: $1.9M
Hood: $3.6M (QO)
4 Slots $2.2M
**Batum's Ghost $11M

• Cavs salary pre-LeBron = $94.2M
• Cavs can sign James to the max
• Cavs still have tMLE and vet min exceptions

George Opts Out (Love+Clarkson traded):
------------------
James $34.9M (or less)
George $30.3M
Howard $25M
Kemba $12M
Korver $7.5M
Zizic: $1.9M
Hood: $3.6M (QO)
5 Slots $2.75M
**Batum's Ghost $11M

• Cavs salary = $91.36M ($37.64M below the apron)
• Cavs can sign James to up $34.9M (slightly below the max)
• Cavs would have exceptions if James took a paycut, or if they chose to cut salary.
• Cavs don't need to bring back Hood, and could trade Korver in a salary dump.
• Trading Korver makes the most sense here.
• Cavs are hard-capped.

George Opts Out (Love+Korver traded):
------------------
James $30M (or less)
George $30.3M
Howard $25M
Clarkson $12.5M
Kemba $12M
Zizic: $1.9M
Hood: $3.6M (QO)
5 Slots $2.75M
**Batum's Ghost $11M

• Cavs salary = $96.3M ($32.7M below the apron)
• Cavs can sign James to up $30M (slightly below the max)
• Cavs likely would not have exceptions without James taking a paycut.
• Cavs don't need to bring back Hood, and could maybe trade Clarkson in a salary dump.
• Trading Clarkson makes the most sense here.
• Cavs are hard-capped.

So in the sign-and-trade scenarios, you'd likely see the Cavs try to get minor players back from the Hornets and Thunder so as to fill roster slots; and of course, it becomes easier if James does what Durant did and takes a paycut.

And yes, assuming the Hornets went along; after all of this, the Cavs would still have the BKN pick. The only problem there is that, to get someone like Beal, as you can see from the above salary situation, you'd almost assuredly need George to opt-in in order to add the $25M in salary; otherwise you'd need James to take a very steep almost $15M+ paycut...

FWIW, to get Beal on the above teams, you'd end up trading Clarkson+Korver+BKN for Beal (making the Love/George trade straight up). You would not bring back Hood, and you'd have less than $20M remaining to sign LeBron.

All in all, this becomes much easier if George opts-in.

 

[KilgoreTrout]

That would be my dream summer. Or even Leonard perhaps? Okay, that's probably fantasy land.

I agree with Gour. Didn't Paul actually say he would come here if LB stays? I think that was out there?

So, I think he's leaving OKC. Let's say the Lakers fail to put a team to attract him. And he gives OKC the ultimatum.

Then that gives us at least something. Love is a vet, knows Westbrook, and I'm sure OKC still is trying to compete with Westbrook there.

It's at least plausible.

Lot of young talent around IT, in LA. LOT of young talent. You move Lonzo to the 2, bring in a solid role-player like PG to play the 3, then you have Kuzma and Randall at the 4, Lopez at the 5. NOBODY stops that team. You just have everyone get out of the way, and let IT go into Attack Mode.

 

[gourimoko]

It would be near impossible to get PG on a sign and trade.

Bron would have to take a massive pay-cut.

The only way we sign PG is if he picks up his player option and tells them he would give OKC the chance not to lose him for free. That way OKC trade him to get a good solid player like Love who is tight with Westbrook, than lose PG for nothing. But it all depends on PG wanting to come here. Something which I am not entirely confident about!

It's actually pretty easy to get George in an S&T for the Cavs...

So the easiest way for the Cavs to get George in a S&T and with only a single trade is to trade Love+Korver for George and then stretch-wave George Hill; assuming no buyout could be reached with Hill, you'd still have room to bring back Hood on the QO and max out LeBron.

This isn't the best or most optimal way to do such a deal; it's just an example meant to illustrate the Cavs absolutely can S&T for George without any help from any 3rd team.

Even after the trade you'd still have Thompson, Smith, and Clarkson's massive contracts too..

Keep in mind, the apron is at $129M next season.

 

[Sebastian]

Sure..

So, to get Kemba, George AND keep one of either the BKN pick OR Kevin Love; effectively you'd need a few things to be true:

1) Charlotte is still willing to attach Kemba to massive salary relief (i.e., Howard+MKG+Williams or Batum+; here we will assume worst case scenario, Batum+Howard)

2a) George is willing to opt-in and be traded, or
2b) If George isn't willing to opt-in; and demands a max contract, then LeBron has to take a paycut.

For the Hornets, the incentive to trade Kemba for salary is less enticing going into this upcoming season - so the time to make such a trade may have passed at the deadline; however, if they're still willing, we can map out how that would work...

Cavs could trade Hill, Smith, Thompson, Osman, Nance and $5.1M in salary (+potential pick from Thunder, depending) for Kemba, Howard, and Batum. The Hornets would likely prefer not to take back Thompson but instead Clarkson; that works too -- at the end of this analysis, just add the ~$5M salary difference in to the Cavs salary. But for now, let's assume they're okay taking Thompson if we include a pick from OKC.

For the Hornets, they're unloading an insane amount of salary in Batum; they're moving Howard off the team (he won't want to remain for a rebuild); they're getting back Nance for Howard which is a much better asset, and Nance is worth a first round pick. They're also getting back Cedi Osman, who looks like he could develop into a quality NBA-caliber wing.

If they could get a pick back, then that would fulfill Jordan's stated requirements for a Kemba trade (last deadline -- which, again, may not be the case any longer).

For the Cavs, we'd be sending out $56M and taking back $62M, so a net total of +$6M in salary. We'd be sending out 5 players and taking back 3, so we'd be -2 on the roster.

So immediately after this Hornets trade, the Cavs would have a salary commitment of $110.9M ... that's without LeBron signed.

To free up salary, the Cavs can stretch Batum's remaining 3 years over 7 years (3x2+1) reducing their cap hit to $10.96M/yr... It's a hefty price to pay, but this should also explain exactly why the Hornets hope to get from under this burden (because Batum is not opting out, or taking less).

This would immediately free up $14M in cap space. It actually would be slightly more than this given the set-off clause and since Batum would play again -- but it's likely that Batum would sign for the vet min over the next 3 seasons anyway, so the Cavs would be paying him to basically play on the team of his choice.

Again, see why the Hornets would be thrilled to be rid of his contract?

But by stretch/waiving Batum, the Cavs go $32M under the apron, having a payroll of ~$96.85M (pre-LeBron).

At this point, a few things can happen:

1) George opts-in and requests a trade; Cavs trade Love for George straight-up (OKC would prefer Love to the BKN pick, IMHO).

Cavs send out $24M, take back $20.7M, actually gain $3.3M in space below the apron. Cavs can resign LeBron to the full max and only be slightly in the tax (but the repeater tax)..

This isn't a sign-and-trade, and the Cavs would have they're exceptions to use to fill out the roster.

To salary would be right at the apron, or $129M.

2) George opts-out, and requests a sign-and-trade at the max.

Cavs would trade Love+Korver for George+OKC first (to go to the Hornets); Cavs are hardcapped and could sign James to a max of $33.5M - $1M (2 roster slots), so $32.5M. It might behoove James to take somewhat less so that the Cavs could use the BAE ($3.6M) or the tMLE ($5.6M) to acquire some more talent; but that'd be his call to make.

A more preferrable option in my opinion would be to change the trade from Love+Korver (which is better for OKC) to Love+Clarkson (which, IMHO, is better for the Cavs) since Kemba, James, and George can all create their own offense. Doing it this way creates $5M in additional space below the apron

So that gives you the following three outcomes:

George Opts In (Love traded):
------------------
James $35.6M (max)
Howard $25M
George $20.7M
Clarkson $12.5M
Kemba $12M
Korver: $7.5M
Zizic: $1.9M
Hood: $3.6M (QO)
4 Slots $2.2M
**Batum's Ghost $11M

• Cavs salary pre-LeBron = $94.2M
• Cavs can sign James to the max
• Cavs still have tMLE and vet min exceptions

George Opts Out (Love+Clarkson traded):
------------------
James $34.9M (or less)
George $30.3M
Howard $25M
Kemba $12M
Korver $7.5M
Zizic: $1.9M
Hood: $3.6M (QO)
5 Slots $2.75M
**Batum's Ghost $11M

• Cavs salary = $91.36M ($37.64M below the apron)
• Cavs can sign James to up $34.9M (slightly below the max)
• Cavs would have exceptions if James took a paycut, or if they chose to cut salary.
• Cavs don't need to bring back Hood, and could trade Korver in a salary dump.
• Trading Korver makes the most sense here.
• Cavs are hard-capped.

George Opts Out (Love+Korver traded):
------------------
James $30M (or less)
George $30.3M
Howard $25M
Clarkson $12.5M
Kemba $12M
Zizic: $1.9M
Hood: $3.6M (QO)
5 Slots $2.75M
**Batum's Ghost $11M

• Cavs salary = $96.3M ($32.7M below the apron)
• Cavs can sign James to up $30M (slightly below the max)
• Cavs likely would not have exceptions without James taking a paycut.
• Cavs don't need to bring back Hood, and could maybe trade Clarkson in a salary dump.
• Trading Clarkson makes the most sense here.
• Cavs are hard-capped.

So in the sign-and-trade scenarios, you'd likely see the Cavs try to get minor players back from the Hornets and Thunder so as to fill roster slots; and of course, it becomes easier if James does what Durant did and takes a paycut.

And yes, assuming the Hornets went along; after all of this, the Cavs would still have the BKN pick. The only problem there is that, to get someone like Beal, as you can see from the above salary situation, you'd almost assuredly need George to opt-in in order to add the $25M in salary; otherwise you'd need James to take a very steep almost $15M+ paycut...

FWIW, to get Beal on the above teams, you'd end up trading Clarkson+Korver+BKN for Beal (making the Love/George trade straight up). You would not bring back Hood, and you'd have less than $20M remaining to sign LeBron.

All in all, this becomes much easier if George opts-in.

That line-up murders the NBA.

Walker
Beal
George
James
Howard

Rim protection, athletic wings who play good D, shooting, multiple creators. Yikes.

 

[JMoneyYourHoney]

That line-up murders the NBA.

Walker
Beal
George
James
Howard

Total fantasy. He'll play close to home in L.A. or win multiple titles as the final piece of the NBA's next dynasty (Philly); he has zero incentive to come to this toxic landfill.

 

[benchplayer]

Spurs don't have Billy King as their GM.

And even he won't do a deal like that lol.

Im also looking at fit, if you put love hood on the spur I bet they'd look like different players

 

[Sebastian]

Total fantasy. He'll play close to home in L.A. or win multiple titles as the final piece of the NBA's next dynasty (Philly); he has zero incentive to come to this toxic landfill.

I'm afraid you are incorrect, my friend. He's not going to Philly as a ring-chaser. He is never going to LA so long as GSW is dominant.

He will make it quite clear this offseason that he will stay, but the Cavs need to massively upgrade. As @gourimoko has shown us, and using simple logic, the Cavs can actually make a rather large splash this offseason. They can add at least another All-Star.

Moreover, I am quite convinced Lue is gone no matter what. His health is shot and he has nothing to prove. Altman will bring in LeBron's boy Fizdale. A proper coach alone will solve many issues.

He will have zero reason to leave and every reason to stay.

 

[gourimoko]

Can we realistically get PG13 in a sign and trade or have him pick up his option then give him an extension? Wouldn't it be too much to give up Love if PG13 says he is walking away from OKC regardless like CP3 from the clippers?

Yes we can get PG13 in any sort of trade.

If we get him in a "Sign and Trade" then he's already declined his option, and he's signed with the Thunder, likely for the max, who will then immediately trade him (hopefully to the Cavs).

The team that receives a sign-and-traded player is then hard-capped at $129M for the remainder of the season. It is commonly said that they lose all their exceptions, etc, but that's not actually true -- they just cannot exceed $129M. Plenty of teams choose to hard-cap themselves.

With that said, if George is maxed and sign-and-traded; he'd arrive in Cleveland with a max deal already; which would be $30.3M x 4 years @ 4.5% raises. This is his best option, as it's the max he can sign anywhere other than OKC (5Y, 7% raises).

If George "opts in" then he gets $20.7M for the 2018-19 season, he has 1 year left. The Thunder can then trade him much easier than they could otherwise since his salary is lower, and the team receiving his contract is not then hard-capped.

George can only get max dollars by opting out and signing as a free agent; he cannot get even close by signing an extension which would limit his first year salary to 120% of the previous contract.

 

[gourimoko]

Total fantasy. He'll play close to home in L.A. or win multiple titles as the final piece of the NBA's next dynasty (Philly); he has zero incentive to come to this toxic landfill.

Well, he and LeBron are friends and have a good relationship...

I also don't know if George really wants to play out his prime on a rebuilding team.

And it's not far-fetched to assume we can trade Love for George, we damn-near did it this past summer. From OKC's perspective, with Love being Russ' BFF that trade makes all the sense in the world.

 

[benchplayer]

To be fair some of this is on the system the Cavs choose to play. This is one of the most stagnant offenses I've ever seen, they almost never move the ball or move bodies. Notice how with other teams the ball is constantly moving and bodies are constantly moving, and because of this, we have guys like Joe Harris looking like Allstars when they play the Cavs. The perfect example of this is Jae Crowder, This guy came here and looked completely trash, but you put him on Utah and look what happens. Yes, of course, love needs to step it up and big time, but they can not continue to run a stagnant offense and expect good things. If the system is half-assed and inefficient then you can expect the same from the players.

 

[godfather]

Total fantasy. He'll play close to home in L.A. or win multiple titles as the final piece of the NBA's next dynasty (Philly); he has zero incentive to come to this toxic landfill.

Bro, LeBron James still dictates the NBA. If LB is at least committed to stay here, it tilts shit a lot.

The Cavs supporting cast/ coaching, ownership, etc, is toxic. But LeBron anywhere is a wrecking ball.

If LB is willingly committed to stay here, it changes everything on what a player will do.

We're going to fire fucking Lue after this season concludes. No matter what I'm sure. Outside a title, which isn't happening.

You clean house. LeBron and George would put a stop to Philly's rise at the moment.

Look how fucking bad this current team is? LeBron has the worst head coach in basketball, IMO. Not exaggerating, he's that bad.

And I honestly didn't think it before, but feel this is the worst supporting cast he's ever had. Ignore Love for a minute. I don't think he's literally a bum, just not an all-star caliber player anymore.

We are playing guys like Calderon, Green, TT (pukes), declining washed up JR. These guys are either too old, or just not good. Not to mention players like Clarkson and Hood are just really, really limited.

And LeBron is still about to win a playoff series literally alone.

There's no way we should be leading this series at all. Our defense isn't even good. And we only are because of one man.

You team him up with an all-star like George. It tilts shit. Get rid of a toxic coaching staff. Make other roster changes needed. Which we HAVE the ammo to do.

Things can change fast.

Dan Gilbert better be serious to change shit this off-season. Root the coaches. Willing to make drastic roster changes to keep LeBron here.

If he leaves we are totally fucked. We might not see winning Cleveland basketball for 20 years.

 

[gaitano]

Kev's been missing on O and that is a letdown, yet he get 10 rebs for us last night and he is playing above himself on D, especially in help trapping Oladipo. He will break his shooting slump and show his worth in these playoffs. As usual, too many hot takes.

 

[The Red Viper]

I have to say it, but they need TT's toughness and screens

 

[The Red Viper]

Sure..

So, to get Kemba, George AND keep one of either the BKN pick OR Kevin Love; effectively you'd need a few things to be true:

1) Charlotte is still willing to attach Kemba to massive salary relief (i.e., Howard+MKG+Williams or Batum+; here we will assume worst case scenario, Batum+Howard)

2a) George is willing to opt-in and be traded, or
2b) If George isn't willing to opt-in; and demands a max contract, then LeBron has to take a paycut.

For the Hornets, the incentive to trade Kemba for salary is less enticing going into this upcoming season - so the time to make such a trade may have passed at the deadline; however, if they're still willing, we can map out how that would work...

Cavs could trade Hill, Smith, Thompson, Osman, Nance and $5.1M in salary (+potential pick from Thunder, depending) for Kemba, Howard, and Batum. The Hornets would likely prefer not to take back Thompson but instead Clarkson; that works too -- at the end of this analysis, just add the ~$5M salary difference in to the Cavs salary. But for now, let's assume they're okay taking Thompson if we include a pick from OKC.

For the Hornets, they're unloading an insane amount of salary in Batum; they're moving Howard off the team (he won't want to remain for a rebuild); they're getting back Nance for Howard which is a much better asset, and Nance is worth a first round pick. They're also getting back Cedi Osman, who looks like he could develop into a quality NBA-caliber wing.

If they could get a pick back, then that would fulfill Jordan's stated requirements for a Kemba trade (last deadline -- which, again, may not be the case any longer).

For the Cavs, we'd be sending out $56M and taking back $62M, so a net total of +$6M in salary. We'd be sending out 5 players and taking back 3, so we'd be -2 on the roster.

So immediately after this Hornets trade, the Cavs would have a salary commitment of $110.9M ... that's without LeBron signed.

To free up salary, the Cavs can stretch Batum's remaining 3 years over 7 years (3x2+1) reducing their cap hit to $10.96M/yr... It's a hefty price to pay, but this should also explain exactly why the Hornets hope to get from under this burden (because Batum is not opting out, or taking less).

This would immediately free up $14M in cap space. It actually would be slightly more than this given the set-off clause and since Batum would play again -- but it's likely that Batum would sign for the vet min over the next 3 seasons anyway, so the Cavs would be paying him to basically play on the team of his choice.

Again, see why the Hornets would be thrilled to be rid of his contract?

But by stretch/waiving Batum, the Cavs go $32M under the apron, having a payroll of ~$96.85M (pre-LeBron).

At this point, a few things can happen:

1) George opts-in and requests a trade; Cavs trade Love for George straight-up (OKC would prefer Love to the BKN pick, IMHO).

Cavs send out $24M, take back $20.7M, actually gain $3.3M in space below the apron. Cavs can resign LeBron to the full max and only be slightly in the tax (but the repeater tax)..

This isn't a sign-and-trade, and the Cavs would have they're exceptions to use to fill out the roster.

To salary would be right at the apron, or $129M.

2) George opts-out, and requests a sign-and-trade at the max.

Cavs would trade Love+Korver for George+OKC first (to go to the Hornets); Cavs are hardcapped and could sign James to a max of $33.5M - $1M (2 roster slots), so $32.5M. It might behoove James to take somewhat less so that the Cavs could use the BAE ($3.6M) or the tMLE ($5.6M) to acquire some more talent; but that'd be his call to make.

A more preferrable option in my opinion would be to change the trade from Love+Korver (which is better for OKC) to Love+Clarkson (which, IMHO, is better for the Cavs) since Kemba, James, and George can all create their own offense. Doing it this way creates $5M in additional space below the apron

So that gives you the following three outcomes:

George Opts In (Love traded):
------------------
James $35.6M (max)
Howard $25M
George $20.7M
Clarkson $12.5M
Kemba $12M
Korver: $7.5M
Zizic: $1.9M
Hood: $3.6M (QO)
4 Slots $2.2M
**Batum's Ghost $11M

• Cavs salary pre-LeBron = $94.2M
• Cavs can sign James to the max
• Cavs still have tMLE and vet min exceptions

George Opts Out (Love+Clarkson traded):
------------------
James $34.9M (or less)
George $30.3M
Howard $25M
Kemba $12M
Korver $7.5M
Zizic: $1.9M
Hood: $3.6M (QO)
5 Slots $2.75M
**Batum's Ghost $11M

• Cavs salary = $91.36M ($37.64M below the apron)
• Cavs can sign James to up $34.9M (slightly below the max)
• Cavs would have exceptions if James took a paycut, or if they chose to cut salary.
• Cavs don't need to bring back Hood, and could trade Korver in a salary dump.
• Trading Korver makes the most sense here.
• Cavs are hard-capped.

George Opts Out (Love+Korver traded):
------------------
James $30M (or less)
George $30.3M
Howard $25M
Clarkson $12.5M
Kemba $12M
Zizic: $1.9M
Hood: $3.6M (QO)
5 Slots $2.75M
**Batum's Ghost $11M

• Cavs salary = $96.3M ($32.7M below the apron)
• Cavs can sign James to up $30M (slightly below the max)
• Cavs likely would not have exceptions without James taking a paycut.
• Cavs don't need to bring back Hood, and could maybe trade Clarkson in a salary dump.
• Trading Clarkson makes the most sense here.
• Cavs are hard-capped.

So in the sign-and-trade scenarios, you'd likely see the Cavs try to get minor players back from the Hornets and Thunder so as to fill roster slots; and of course, it becomes easier if James does what Durant did and takes a paycut.

And yes, assuming the Hornets went along; after all of this, the Cavs would still have the BKN pick. The only problem there is that, to get someone like Beal, as you can see from the above salary situation, you'd almost assuredly need George to opt-in in order to add the $25M in salary; otherwise you'd need James to take a very steep almost $15M+ paycut...

FWIW, to get Beal on the above teams, you'd end up trading Clarkson+Korver+BKN for Beal (making the Love/George trade straight up). You would not bring back Hood, and you'd have less than $20M remaining to sign LeBron.

All in all, this becomes much easier if George opts-in.

Someone needs to tweet this to Dan Gilbert and Koby Altman.

 

[CHIMOCHIS]

Please don’t tell me Love isn’t going to his mental issues

I counted like 5 shotfakes hesitation from the three point line

Just let it rain Love, that’s what you’re there for

I mean I would say pump fake and attack the rim with no disregard , but all that will happen would be an epic block by some pacer