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I give Ki shit but wouldn't trade him for any one on the US team but Davis the rest is a mutable noise for me. Rose, Damon, or Wall are all a step below this year we will see a jump as the caliber of players around him are no longer so severely inferior. Wall was getting reamed at one point and was getting bust whispers before Beal came on board. Damon came onto a team with LA and Rose had a team based on defensive talent where he could gun.
 
Were LeBron, Wade and Bosh all in their prime or no? At the time, all three were considered top 5 or 6 players in the NBA. (Maybe less so for Bosh, but definitely for LeBron and Wade.)


I think the perception was they were all 3 in their prime. I thought they were. But can your prime ever be considered the year before your game falls off a cliff? Because Wade fell off a cliff health wise by the next season. Still a very good player, but no where near the Wade of 3'or 4 years earlier. That's why the Heat experiment was a success, but not at all what anyone expected. In retrospect, Wade's prime occurred before Lebron ever got there.

I recall the Miami radio hosts joking about pulling a fan out of the crowd to play pg and still winning 70 games. I thought the could too. That was the perception, but the reality was Wade had like one prime year left, and they wasted it because him and Lebron couldn't figure out how to play with each other. They were still good enough to win 2 rings, but no one could describe Wade as in his prime any of the last 3 seasons. That Wade would be a shell of himself so young was a bit of a shocker. Many knew his game wouldn't age well, but no one foresaw him having to be on maintenance programs at 31 and 32 years old.

This team has a chance of being what most thought that trio would be.

Kyrie and Kevin are pre-prime if anything, and Lebron should age much better than Wade.
 
I think the perception was they were all 3 in their prime. I thought they were. But can your prime ever be considered the year before your game falls off a cliff? Because Wade fell off a cliff health wise by the next season. Still a very good player, but no where near the Wade of 3'or 4 years earlier. That's why the Heat experiment was a success, but not at all what anyone expected. In retrospect, Wade's prime occurred before Lebron ever got there.

I recall the Miami radio hosts joking about pulling a fan out of the crowd to play pg and still winning 70 games. I thought the could too. That was the perception, but the reality was Wade had like one prime year left, and they wasted it because him and Lebron couldn't figure out how to play with each other. They were still good enough to win 2 rings, but no one could describe Wade as in his prime any of the last 3 seasons. That Wade would be a shell of himself so young was a bit of a shocker. Many knew his game wouldn't age well, but no one foresaw him having to be on maintenance programs at 31 and 32 years old.

This team has a chance of being what most thought that trio would be.

Kyrie and Kevin are pre-prime if anything, and Lebron should age much better than Wade.

I expect LeBron to age closer to Jordan than Wade. Jordan was still dominating at 40, and I expect LeBron to be able to do the same. LeBron's durability has been possibly unprecedented. What player has played so many minutes, season after season, gotten incredibly beat up while going to the hoop as the most focused on player for defenses, and missed almost no games? I remember cringing every time LeBron would take a hard hit when he was originally with the Cavs, but he would always get back up. It still amazes me to this day how genetically gifted he is. I wouldn't be surprised if he could maintain top 3-5 player status into his mid 30s (35 or 36), while still being an all-star level until he is 40.

Although Bosh's game should age well, Wade's game never was going to age well. Kyrie's game and Love's game are going to age well because they are skill-based rather than athletically based. Their games also fit together much better with LeBron's. Kyrie, LeBron, and Love can all pass, shoot, and drive on offense. Wade couldn't shoot, and Bosh couldn't pass or shoot as well as Love can. Kevin Love literally has to be a top 2 stretch 4 of all time along with Dirk, who he definitely has the chance to pass.

I also expect Kyrie and Love's defense to both improve. There will be too much accountability for their respective defensive games to not improve.
 
Shared here so many times but man... the more I watch this the more excited I get.

 
I think the perception was they were all 3 in their prime. I thought they were. But can your prime ever be considered the year before your game falls off a cliff? Because Wade fell off a cliff health wise by the next season. Still a very good player, but no where near the Wade of 3'or 4 years earlier. That's why the Heat experiment was a success, but not at all what anyone expected. In retrospect, Wade's prime occurred before Lebron ever got there.

I recall the Miami radio hosts joking about pulling a fan out of the crowd to play pg and still winning 70 games. I thought the could too. That was the perception, but the reality was Wade had like one prime year left, and they wasted it because him and Lebron couldn't figure out how to play with each other. They were still good enough to win 2 rings, but no one could describe Wade as in his prime any of the last 3 seasons. That Wade would be a shell of himself so young was a bit of a shocker. Many knew his game wouldn't age well, but no one foresaw him having to be on maintenance programs at 31 and 32 years old.

This team has a chance of being what most thought that trio would be.

Kyrie and Kevin are pre-prime if anything, and Lebron should age much better than Wade.

Yes? It would be called the end of your prime, but still your prime. Doesn't make a lot of sense to look at Wade's season in 2010-2011, where he was still a top 3 player, and then say that wasn't his prime because the following season he fell off. He was in his prime in 2010-2011, and in 2011-2012 he was not.
 
Yes? It would be called the end of your prime, but still your prime. Doesn't make a lot of sense to look at Wade's season in 2010-2011, where he was still a top 3 player, and then say that wasn't his prime because the following season he fell off. He was in his prime in 2010-2011, and in 2011-2012 he was not.

I wish you could compile all your corrections of hypothetical questions in a book so that I could leave it on my coffee table and all my guests could enjoy them forevermore.
 
Shared here so many times but man... the more I watch this the more excited I get.


Yeah, plus they'll have this old timer to help.

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I am hoping they do that commercial! I'm sure Lebron wouldn't be in a commercial that he wasn't the lead of though.
 
LeBron needs to be the final teammate for the Uncle Drew series.
 
Just found out kyrie played today. I can't find a box score. Did anyone watch it?
 
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