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There's no way i'd take Amare [or any league average player] over Kobe in a clutch situation, even if they did have similar numbers.

if for no other reason, because Kobe would be ten times as likely to get a call as any other player.
 
This is a really fair point. I think LeBron is leagues better than Kobe; but, Kobe is still top-twenty all-time. Also, not sure why "Kobe didn't contribute anything unique." He literally has a generation of guys who talk about emulating him, Kyrie, Westbrook, and Harden chief among them.

LeBron's my favorite, and frankly, in the convo for GOAT... But some of the Kobe talk is straight-up disrespect.

Kobe deserves a lot of credit for his tremendous work ethic and for absolutely maximizing his talent. He was a great two-way player and even though he wasn't God's gift to teammates was and is a role model for his approach to the game. He's definitely top-20 all-time. But I don't think he belongs in the pantheon of generational players like LeBron, Duncan, Shaq, Hakeem and MJ.

Also- and I'll acknowledge this is probably unfair to Kobe- I think those early-2000's Laker teams might've been capable of winning titles even had you substituted Kobe for, say, Michael Finley. As superb as Kobe was Shaq was absolutely the alpha and omega for those teams, no question.
 
Kobe deserves a lot of credit for his tremendous work ethic and for absolutely maximizing his talent. He was a great two-way player and even though he wasn't God's gift to teammates was and is a role model for his approach to the game. He's definitely top-20 all-time. But I don't think he belongs in the pantheon of generational players like LeBron, Duncan, Shaq, Hakeem and MJ.

Also- and I'll acknowledge this is probably unfair to Kobe- I think those early-2000's Laker teams might've been capable of winning titles even had you substituted Kobe for, say, Michael Finley. As superb as Kobe was Shaq was absolutely the alpha and omega for those teams, no question.
I agree with this entire post. The only thing I'd add is I think that 2002 Lakers team needed Kobe, especially against the Kings. Not sure they win that series with Michael Finley. Otherwise I completely agree with your points.
 
Kobe deserves a lot of credit for his tremendous work ethic and for absolutely maximizing his talent. He was a great two-way player and even though he wasn't God's gift to teammates was and is a role model for his approach to the game. He's definitely top-20 all-time. But I don't think he belongs in the pantheon of generational players like LeBron, Duncan, Shaq, Hakeem and MJ.

Also- and I'll acknowledge this is probably unfair to Kobe- I think those early-2000's Laker teams might've been capable of winning titles even had you substituted Kobe for, say, Michael Finley. As superb as Kobe was Shaq was absolutely the alpha and omega for those teams, no question.


Thats the most absurd thing I ever read
 
He basically swept the Pacers by himself.
Lebron from the outset was clearly focused on making this series a playoff duel between him and Paul George.

They swept. seems like the right call.

What will be interesting is to see if in the next series if Lebron goes defensive and defers to loverand Irving offensively as he did the first two series last season.
 
This was a classic Kobe like finish for LeBron. Big shots and a bunch of misses from 3 no one remembers [emoji16]

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...for-playoff-sweeps-consecutive-1st-round-wins

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