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You guys are probably over thinking this . If Bazzana can get back on the field and continue to play like he did there were pretty good breadcrumbs saying ( ) he was the front runner

I think this is correct. You can add power hitters in free agency, you can't get many all around do it all players. Plus we already have the most money to spend with the highest draft pool. Savings aren't as important as years past.
 
1. That's 2-time AS Jason Kipnis ;)
2. Basic stats (and removing his rookie year & last year), Kipnis yearly avg were
  • .261 BA
  • .329 OBP
  • .411 SLG
  • .741 OPS
  • 135 hits
  • 14.5 HR
  • 64 RBIs
  • 30 2B
  • 2.5 3B
These are good #s for a 2B but not elite. I think Bazzana is a CF and can put up Sizemore-like numbers.

I’m more specifically looking at that 2013 season. Annual 5 WAR type player.

Him being Grady, with health, as I said a month or two ago, is something you turn the card in advance for.

Nationally, people don’t realize healthy Grady was on a collision course with being borderline HOF, IMO.
 
Can someone explain to me why people aren't higher on Condon who is absolutely crushing SEC pitching?
 
Can someone explain to me why people aren't higher on Condon who is absolutely crushing SEC pitching?

The only thing holding him back is a terrible showing in last years Cape Cod league... Aka Summer ball where college kids use Wooden bats not metal bats.

Bazzana had a very good showing there and Cape Cod numbers seem to be a better test than anything else for success rates from college to the pros...

Honestly, I feel like Bazzana, Condon and Montgomery are 1A, 1B, and 1C right now with Wetherholt and Kurtz being 2A and 2B on the boards.

It's more of question then from Condon, how does he do in this years Cape Cod...
 
The only thing holding him back is a terrible showing in last years Cape Cod league... Aka Summer ball where college kids use Wooden bats not metal bats.

Bazzana had a very good showing there and Cape Cod numbers seem to be a better test than anything else for success rates from college to the pros...

Honestly, I feel like Bazzana, Condon and Montgomery are 1A, 1B, and 1C right now with Wetherholt and Kurtz being 2A and 2B on the boards.

It's more of question then from Condon, how does he do in this years Cape Cod...
For me it's
  • Bazzana
  • Condon
  • Montgomery
  • Jac
  • JJW
  • Kurtz
A healthy JJW would have made this race even more interesting
 
Can someone explain to me why people aren't higher on Condon who is absolutely crushing SEC pitching?

Because he strikes out a lot and doesn't have a position. You don't take 1B/DH first overall. He doesn't have the best history in wooden bat leagues so you have to question how well he's going to translate "crushing" the SEC to being able hit for the same power with a wooden bat

He's nowhere near Aaron Judge or Giancarlos Stanton if that's what you're thinking.
 
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Because he strikes out a lot and doesn't have a position. You don't take 1B/DH first overall. He doesn't have the best history in wooden bat leagues so you have to question how well he's going to translate "crushing" the SEC to being able hit for the same power with a wooden bat

He's nowhere near Aaron Judge or Giancarlos Stanton if that's what you're thinking.


He has 25 strike outs in 181 AB this year (bazzana has 16 in 124ab) He had 4 in 46 at cape. That's not a SO problem.

He plays CF and projects as a RF or 3b not 1b or dh.

He was an all star in his first wooden bat league (2022 Northwoods) and everyone says he was bad at cape but he only got 46 AB because he left for team USA where he absolutely crushed the ball with a wooden bat. He hit over .500 in tryouts against some of the best pitchers of his age group and even better than that for team USA.

He's the best RHH in the draft by far. Something we need badly.

He's having an insane year and tons of scouts have him #1 and bazz not even top 2 but if you read this board you'd think it was bazz #1 by a mile. It's odd. I like Bazz a ton too but they're at best neck and neck as prospects and at worst Condon is a better prospect
 
He has 25 strike outs in 181 AB this year.

He plays CF and projects as a RF or 3b not 1b or dh.

He was an all star in his first wooden bat league (2022 Northwoods) and everyone says he was bad at cape but he only got 46 AB because he left for team USA where he absolutely crushed the ball with a wooden bat. He hit over .500 in tryouts against some of the best pitchers of his age group and even better than that for team USA.

He's the best RHH in the draft by far. Something we need badly.

He's having an insane year and tons of scouts have him #1 and bazz not even top 2 but if you read this board you'd think it was bazz #1 by a mile. It's odd. I like Bazz a ton too but they're at best neck and neck as prospects and at worst Condon is a better prospect

He has over a strike out per game in confrence play and overall a 25% swinging strike percentage. Both of those are bad indicators going forward.

Just because he plays CF now, doesn't mean he's going to play any corner position in the majors. I'm not sure where you were trying to go with that argument. Even Keith Law says you maybe get only above average defense at corner outfield, Jeff Ellis has said he's likley a first basemen unless you don't care about your corner OF defense. He's a 1B or DH in this organization that heavily values defense. Just like they heavily value not striking out and swining and missing as often as Condon does.

An all star appearance in northwoods league isn't an indication of how good a player is, because each division sends a team created of players from those 5 teams, and he batted .286 with a 33% swining strike rate with a mind blowing 54 strike outs to 24 walks. That's God awful.

You don't draft for need in baseball. Ever. It doesn't happen. He's not even the best power potential bat in the draft.

Tons of scouts have said Bazzana is the more sure bet to reach his ceiling. Bazzana also currently has the second highest average draft position, so where are you getting that tons of scouts don't have him top 2? I think you're mind is just made up to have Condon significantly better than what he is and expect some 40 or even 50+ home run potential good outfielder and that's just not the case. Bazzana is significantly more advanced at every single skill except for Power. That's why everyone has him written down in permanent marker as the #1. You take the best overall skill set and best translateable skill set. Not need, especially when that need doesn't have a secure position in the field.
 
Because he strikes out a lot and doesn't have a position. You don't take 1B/DH first overall. He doesn't have the best history in wooden bat leagues so you have to question how well he's going to translate "crushing" the SEC to being able hit for the same power with a wooden bat

He's nowhere near Aaron Judge or Giancarlos Stanton if that's what you're thinking.

He has 25 strikeouts in 181 plate appearances this season.

I'm not a math wizard, but that's isn't striking out "a lot" to me.
 
He has over a strike out per game in confrence play and overall a 25% swinging strike percentage. Both of those are bad indicators going forward.

He has 12 strikeouts in 15 SEC games this year.
 
Yup. They are. Just like the last time you tried to refenceman them incorrectly.

What did you not understand the first time ?

Aka Send a link stating something different from a legit source. That would make this argument go way easier since @CBBI is a good fellow and would respect if you countered with a link/info from a legit source.
 

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