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Most teams have reports on other team's prospects back from when those players were in the draft, so teams usually have at least something work with. Teams also have regional scouts who keep tabs on certain league that they will talk to for a current view on prospects being discussed.
Radinsky the apparent fall guy. A shame, really, because he was a guy lauded for his work in C-Bus with last years overachievers Tomlin, Gomez, Smith onrehab and McAlister. Oh well, iguess someone has to be fired.
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Yea this was a case where Radinsky was overmatched as a pitching coach and should of moved back to his bullpen duties
Writing seems to be on the wall though....Antonetti is about to take the brunt of this
I thought Shapiro and Antonetti's contracts were up at the end of the year? Shapiro's goes through 2013 and Antonetti's to at least 2014. When the heck did they get extensions? the last press release has them both expiring in 2012.
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I was one that was saying their contracts were up - Cot's has both listed as 2012 but in the interview Dolan said they were longer than that. Not sure if they received extensions without being reported or if Cot's had them wrong.
I am of the opinion we need new blood as this organization has only seen moderate success in the last decade
Antonetti is from the same mold as Shapiro trying to strike gold by trying to squeeze anything out of fading vets. the only things he has done that were un-Shapiro like was acquiring Ubaldo and the rentals of Thome and Fukodome last year
I hope changes are coming . . . the status quo isn't going get it done
I didn't want to start a separate thread for this look at the Ubaldo deal from the Colorado perspective:
Colorado Rockies still waiting for the Ubaldo Jimenez trade to pay off
POSTED: 09/06/2012 12:01:00 AM MDT
By Troy E. Renck
The Denver Post
ATLANTA — Thirteen months later, there are no winners.
The Rockies shook their franchise by the shoulders, trading former All-Star Game starter Ubaldo Jimenez to the Indians for four players. But let's be honest, this deal was about the two prized arms Colorado received in return: Drew Pomeranz and Alex White.
The move was bold, daring, controversial and, thus far, disappointing. White, who worked less than five innings for the seventh consecutive start Wednesday, and Pomeranz are a combined 7-20 with a 5.71 ERA. They have youth on their side, making minimum salaries as they slog through their rookie seasons at a time when many pitchers their age are in Double-A.
For Cleveland, Jimenez has been worse when framed by expectations and his contract. The right-hander lost to Detroit on Wednesday. He is 13-19 with a 5.44 ERA for the Indians since the deal that was supposed to push Cleveland into the playoffs last season. The Indians sacrificed their future for Jimenez, and are now upside down on their mortgage. By season's end, they will have paid him $5.1 million.
That should have been a bargain for a quasi-ace. But as the Rockies recognized when they began shopping him last summer, he was no longer elite. What their statistics told them, other teams confirmed with their underwhelming offers for him.
Jimenez has fallen to the point that it would not be a surprise if the Indians decline his $5.75 million club option and exercise a $1 million buyout. He hasn't been competitive on many nights, following a trend of Rockies pitchers who have nose-dived after logging large work loads at altitude.
The right-hander is threatening to post the highest ERA by an Indians starter since 1921.
It's not like Pomeranz and White have made anyone forget Jimenez, whose ability to pitch at Coors Field made him unique by Rockies standards. Their outings have been like heavyweight boxing matches. They are up. They are down. They are on the ropes. They avoid direct shots to the chin, but are unable to deliver haymakers.
Pomeranz has shown elite starter ability, his win against Washington before the all-star break arguably the Rockies' finest pitched game this season. But he's still learning how to pitch through soreness, how to win without his best stuff. Jim Tracy talked to him Wednesday about his growth.
"We need to see incremental progress. I am not talking about taking quantum leaps, but it's time to move forward," the Rockies manager said. "It's like my mentor Felipe Alou said, 'If you've seen it, it's in there.' "
White has been everything but consistent. His sinker produces groundballs, though they are undermined by too many walks and an inflated pitch count. The right-hander threw 71 pitches Wednesday, just 32 for strikes. The movement on his two-seam fastball suggests that he can be a starter, though a seventh-inning groundball machine carries value as well.
For both to improve, they must improve command of their secondary pitches.
Pomeranz has a dirty cut fastball that turns bats into firewood. His curveball and changeup, however, are swing-and-miss pitches that he needs to throw for strikes when behind in the count.
Thirteen months later, the resultant picture, showing uneven performances across the board, remains out of focus.
At least Pomeranz and White still have time to develop.
Read more: Colorado Rockies still waiting for the Ubaldo Jimenez trade to pay off - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_21477341#ixzz25uTKYAOa
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Colorado Rockies still waiting for the Ubaldo Jimenez trade to pay off
POSTED: 09/06/2012 12:01:00 AM MDT
By Troy E. Renck
The Denver Post
ATLANTA — Thirteen months later, there are no winners.
The Rockies shook their franchise by the shoulders, trading former All-Star Game starter Ubaldo Jimenez to the Indians for four players. But let's be honest, this deal was about the two prized arms Colorado received in return: Drew Pomeranz and Alex White.
The move was bold, daring, controversial and, thus far, disappointing. White, who worked less than five innings for the seventh consecutive start Wednesday, and Pomeranz are a combined 7-20 with a 5.71 ERA. They have youth on their side, making minimum salaries as they slog through their rookie seasons at a time when many pitchers their age are in Double-A.
For Cleveland, Jimenez has been worse when framed by expectations and his contract. The right-hander lost to Detroit on Wednesday. He is 13-19 with a 5.44 ERA for the Indians since the deal that was supposed to push Cleveland into the playoffs last season. The Indians sacrificed their future for Jimenez, and are now upside down on their mortgage. By season's end, they will have paid him $5.1 million.
That should have been a bargain for a quasi-ace. But as the Rockies recognized when they began shopping him last summer, he was no longer elite. What their statistics told them, other teams confirmed with their underwhelming offers for him.
Jimenez has fallen to the point that it would not be a surprise if the Indians decline his $5.75 million club option and exercise a $1 million buyout. He hasn't been competitive on many nights, following a trend of Rockies pitchers who have nose-dived after logging large work loads at altitude.
The right-hander is threatening to post the highest ERA by an Indians starter since 1921.
It's not like Pomeranz and White have made anyone forget Jimenez, whose ability to pitch at Coors Field made him unique by Rockies standards. Their outings have been like heavyweight boxing matches. They are up. They are down. They are on the ropes. They avoid direct shots to the chin, but are unable to deliver haymakers.
Pomeranz has shown elite starter ability, his win against Washington before the all-star break arguably the Rockies' finest pitched game this season. But he's still learning how to pitch through soreness, how to win without his best stuff. Jim Tracy talked to him Wednesday about his growth.
"We need to see incremental progress. I am not talking about taking quantum leaps, but it's time to move forward," the Rockies manager said. "It's like my mentor Felipe Alou said, 'If you've seen it, it's in there.' "
White has been everything but consistent. His sinker produces groundballs, though they are undermined by too many walks and an inflated pitch count. The right-hander threw 71 pitches Wednesday, just 32 for strikes. The movement on his two-seam fastball suggests that he can be a starter, though a seventh-inning groundball machine carries value as well.
For both to improve, they must improve command of their secondary pitches.
Pomeranz has a dirty cut fastball that turns bats into firewood. His curveball and changeup, however, are swing-and-miss pitches that he needs to throw for strikes when behind in the count.
Thirteen months later, the resultant picture, showing uneven performances across the board, remains out of focus.
At least Pomeranz and White still have time to develop.
Read more: Colorado Rockies still waiting for the Ubaldo Jimenez trade to pay off - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_21477341#ixzz25uTKYAOa
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Versatile Rottino making impression on Acta
CLEVELAND -- Vinny Rottino is not a typical September callup. The Indians' utility man has spent a decade in the Minor Leagues and is long past the days of potentially being labeled as a prospect.
That is not stopping Cleveland from taking a close look at Rottino.
"We like him. That's why he's here," Indians manager Manny Acta said. "Some people might second-guess a guy his age being up here in September and all that, but 32 is not old, and we like what he did in Triple-A."
Rottino showed what he brings to the table in Wednesday's 6-4 loss to the Twins. In the third inning, he drew a walk, stole second base, moved to third on a groundout to shortstop and scored on a base hit. Rottino later doubled and scored in the eighth, a half-inning after making a great sliding catch in left to rob Joe Mauer of a hit.
"We like what he brings," Acta said. "He's very versatile and plays hard. He does all those little things that help you win games -- things you can't teach."
Rottino was in the lineup Thursday as Cleveland's right fielder and leadoff man, spelling Shin-Soo Choo in both spots. In nine games for the Tribe, Rottino has hit just .143 (2-for-14), which is slightly below the .181 career mark he has posted across five seasons between stints with Brewers, Marlins, Mets and Indians.
Rottino has played all nine positions throughout his professional career, but he is mostly viewed as an option for first base and the corner-outfield spots. He can also work as a catcher.
The Mets lost Rottino to Cleveland via waivers on June 27, and he responded by hitting .291 with five home runs, 18 doubles and 41 RBIs in 60 games for Triple-A Columbus. Over 96 Triple-A games between Buffalo (Mets) and Columbus, Rottino hit .297 with nine homers, 28 doubles and 66 RBIs.
"When he was put on waivers in New York," Acta said, "he had some good comments made about him, too. We like what we see. He can do some things."
Link: http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/ne...tebook_id=38719910&vkey=notebook_cle&c_id=cle
CLEVELAND -- Vinny Rottino is not a typical September callup. The Indians' utility man has spent a decade in the Minor Leagues and is long past the days of potentially being labeled as a prospect.
That is not stopping Cleveland from taking a close look at Rottino.
"We like him. That's why he's here," Indians manager Manny Acta said. "Some people might second-guess a guy his age being up here in September and all that, but 32 is not old, and we like what he did in Triple-A."
Rottino showed what he brings to the table in Wednesday's 6-4 loss to the Twins. In the third inning, he drew a walk, stole second base, moved to third on a groundout to shortstop and scored on a base hit. Rottino later doubled and scored in the eighth, a half-inning after making a great sliding catch in left to rob Joe Mauer of a hit.
"We like what he brings," Acta said. "He's very versatile and plays hard. He does all those little things that help you win games -- things you can't teach."
Rottino was in the lineup Thursday as Cleveland's right fielder and leadoff man, spelling Shin-Soo Choo in both spots. In nine games for the Tribe, Rottino has hit just .143 (2-for-14), which is slightly below the .181 career mark he has posted across five seasons between stints with Brewers, Marlins, Mets and Indians.
Rottino has played all nine positions throughout his professional career, but he is mostly viewed as an option for first base and the corner-outfield spots. He can also work as a catcher.
The Mets lost Rottino to Cleveland via waivers on June 27, and he responded by hitting .291 with five home runs, 18 doubles and 41 RBIs in 60 games for Triple-A Columbus. Over 96 Triple-A games between Buffalo (Mets) and Columbus, Rottino hit .297 with nine homers, 28 doubles and 66 RBIs.
"When he was put on waivers in New York," Acta said, "he had some good comments made about him, too. We like what we see. He can do some things."
Link: http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/ne...tebook_id=38719910&vkey=notebook_cle&c_id=cle
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I saw a picture of him today in the PD, I had no idea who he was and still don't
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Great talent evaluations by the Indians. Only they would really like a guy who spent a decade playing minor league baseball.
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Not that I'm expecting much from Rottino, but this is a pretty stupid comment.
There is seemingly a guy every year that catches on after about a decade in the minors.
Elliot Johnson from TB comes to mind, Justin Ruggiano from MIA, Luis Cruz is currently killing it for the Dodgers.
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Two of those guys, Johnson and Cruz, are 4 years younger than Rottino, although Ruggiano is a good example.
The problem, as I see it, is that none of those guys ever really got a fair chance. Rottino has been given a chance everywhere, and everywhere he has totally failed miserably.
The problem, as I see it, is that none of those guys ever really got a fair chance. Rottino has been given a chance everywhere, and everywhere he has totally failed miserably.
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Maybe the point is Acta wants to show he is going to play a hard working guy who always gives effort instead of someone who doesn't always plays hard and with the games meaning nothing he is trying to prove a point. ,