Net Neutrality

[Cassity14]

Sooo Cox, Comcast, and Frontier, some of the largest ISPs, have already announced a raise in prices in 2018, and it's expected that others are going to follow suit.

Where I'm at, it's Comcast or bust unless you're in one of the small areas where Verizon FIOS is an option. For me, it isn't, and Verizon is also expected to announce price changes soon (probably shortly into the new year).

I'll be patiently waiting for this ability of competition to benefit me as a consumer. I think I'll be waiting for a long time.

 

[Triplethreat]

Sooo Cox, one of the largest ISPs, has already announced a raise in prices in 2018, and it's expected that others are going to follow suit.

Where I'm at, it's Comcast or bust unless you're in one of the small areas where Verizon FIOS is an option. Both Verizon and Comcast are expected to raise prices in 2018 as well, especially not that Cox has.

I'll be patiently waiting for this ability of competition to benefit me as a consumer. I think I'll be waiting for a long time.

Wow you're not grasping any of this are you. Please choose to actually read and attempt to understand the material/points being presented to you before this shit.

This still has to go through congress anyways. So this price raise doesn't have dick to do with the net neutrality laws.

 

[Cassity14]

Wow you're not grasping any of this are you. Please choose to actually read and attempt to understand the material/points being presented to you before this shit.

This still has to go through congress anyways. So this price raise doesn't have dick to do with the net neutrality laws.

Yeah, don't tell me what I've read and attempted or haven't read and attempted to do. Thanks.

What needs to go through Congress is a set of replacement rules for what the FCC repealed. Who's in charge of enforcing what is currently the rules? The FCC.

The FCC's repeal is effectively, "We aren't going to enforce this anymore, and we will go by whatever is legislated in Washington."

Do you honestly think the effects of this repeal are going to be instantaneous? Do you think we're just all going to be slapped in the face with massive changes and price gouging? C'mon man, don't be naive.

The changes and effects will be subtle, and in my opinion, are already beginning.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Sooo Cox, Comcast, and Frontier, some of the largest ISPs, have already announced a raise in prices in 2018, and it's expected that others are going to follow suit.

Where I'm at, it's Comcast or bust unless you're in one of the small areas where Verizon FIOS is an option. For me, it isn't, and Verizon is also expected to announce price changes soon (probably shortly into the new year).

I'll be patiently waiting for this ability of competition to benefit me as a consumer. I think I'll be waiting for a long time.

Just to be clear...are you claiming that these rate increases happened because net neutrality was just eliminated?

 

[gourimoko]

Just to be clear...are you claiming that these rate increases happened because net neutrality was just eliminated?

I'm pretty sure he's saying that he eagerly awaits the massive influx of competition that repealing net neutrality will bring.

 

[Cassity14]

Just to be clear...are you claiming that these rate increases happened because net neutrality was just eliminated?

Not necessarily, but I'm saying it's interesting timing given the arguments for the repeal and what's happened in the immediate aftermath.

Like any big business, these large ISP's are going to push bit by bit to see what they can get away with. Everyone will say, "See? What was the big deal?" and the slippery slope will continue.

We have people in this thread asking what was so different before Net Neutrality statutes were put in place without taking the time to research the events that directly caused the government to implement said statutes.

 

[KI4MVP]

I'm pretty sure he's saying that he eagerly awaits the massive influx of competition that repealing net neutrality will bring.

That's going to be a really, really long wait.

 

[Triplethreat]

Sooo Cox, Comcast, and Frontier, some of the largest ISPs, have already announced a raise in prices in 2018, and it's expected that others are going to follow suit.

Where I'm at, it's Comcast or bust unless you're in one of the small areas where Verizon FIOS is an option. For me, it isn't, and Verizon is also expected to announce price changes soon (probably shortly into the new year).

I'll be patiently waiting for this ability of competition to benefit me as a consumer. I think I'll be waiting for a long time.

Yeah, don't tell me what I've read and attempted or haven't read and attempted to do. Thanks.

What needs to go through Congress is a set of replacement rules for what the FCC repealed. Who's in charge of enforcing what is currently the rules? The FCC.

The FCC's repeal is effectively, "We aren't going to enforce this anymore, and we will go by whatever is legislated in Washington."

Do you honestly think the effects of this repeal are going to be instantaneous? Do you think we're just all going to be slapped in the face with massive changes and price gouging? C'mon man, don't be naive.

The changes and effects will be subtle, and in my opinion, are already beginning.

Sigh....

Hypocrisy running rampant.

 

[Zeus69]

Comcast has been jacking my prices every year for the past five years.

New fiber competition just made its way into our region, so we’ll see how that impacts things.

 

[Triplethreat]

Comcast has been jacking my prices every year for the past five years.

New fiber competition just made its way into our region, so we’ll see how that impacts things.

MUST BE FROM THE REPEAL!!!

 

[Cassity14]

Sigh....

Hypocrisy running rampant.

You wanna explain anything or just talk shit and take pot shots?

I'm all ears, but if you're gonna call someone's post shit, try to do a little better yourself.

 

[Triplethreat]

You wanna explain anything or just talk shit and take pot shots?

I'm all ears, but if you're gonna call someone's post shit, try to do a little better yourself.

This thread is littered with people who've already made up their mind on the subject and won't budge or even acknowledge the other side of the argument as having even a smidge of legitimate basis. Mind has been closed off and it seems that there is some sort of agenda there.

It's not worth the time nor effort.

 

[gourimoko]

This thread is littered with people who've already made up their mind on the subject and won't budge or even acknowledge the other side of the argument as having even a smidge of legitimate basis. Mind has been closed off and it seems that there is some sort of agenda there.

It's not worth the time nor effort.

As someone who has debated this topic, I don't think the pro-repeal advocated here have made much of an argument, let alone a compelling one. And simply asking the question "how," seems to derail their arguments entirely, and now that seems to be too much to ask?

If the argument is that this will create competition, it's not unfair to ask how.

If the argument is that this will lower prices, it's not unfair to ask how.

If the argument is that this is somehow going to lead to a better internet, again, it's not unfair to ask how.

Because it seems like you're suggesting that simply asking "how" we get from point A to point B is too much.. That we should assume legitimacy in the argument, even if it hasn't been demonstrated with any form of specificity whatsoever?

So, I don't think that's being "closed-minded" insomuch as it's asking for a modicum of reason to believe the proposition has any validity to it.

That's fair right?

 

[Cassity14]

This thread is littered with people who've already made up their mind on the subject and won't budge or even acknowledge the other side of the argument as having even a smidge of legitimate basis.

Welcome to this part of the forum.

It's funny that you chose me to express this point when I am in the first page of the thread explaining both sides of the argument, yet told me I clearly hadn't read the thread in its entirety or tried to understand it.

If you're going to call me out personally twice, then tell me it's not worth your time to have an actual discussion, that's pretty shitty. You had the time and effort to complain about it, after all.

 

[czvo]

As someone who has debated this topic, I don't think the pro-repeal advocated here have made much of an argument, let alone a compelling one. And simply asking the question "how," seems to derail their arguments entirely, and now that seems to be too much to ask?

If the argument is that this will create competition, it's not unfair to ask how.

If the argument is that this will lower prices, it's not unfair to ask how.

If the argument is that this is somehow going to lead to a better internet, again, it's not unfair to ask how.

Because it seems like you're suggesting that simply asking "how" we get from point A to point B is too much.. That we should assume legitimacy in the argument, even if it hasn't been demonstrated with any form of specificity whatsoever?

So, I don't think that's being "closed-minded" insomuch as it's asking for a modicum of reason to believe the proposition has any validity to it.

That's fair right?

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Step 1: Get underwear
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit