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Seriously...watch Plinkett's review of Episode 3. He points out just about every logical flaw and plot hole in the entire movie, and given just how many there are, that's a goddamn impressive feat.

If they're as stupid as how did batman get back to the US with no money, I'd rather not. I think I'd rather stab my eyes out.
 
If they're as stupid as how did batman get back to the US with no money, I'd rather not. I think I'd rather stab my eyes out.

The plot holes in the Star Wars prequels are so much bigger than Batman getting back into Gotham after escaping the pit. So much worse.
 
If they're as stupid as how did batman get back to the US with no money, I'd rather not. I think I'd rather stab my eyes out.

It's not "how did batman get back to the US with no money." It's "how did Batman get out of a barren, desolate wasteland with no money, supplies, or knowledge of where he actually was." Sorry, but that's a gigantic plot hole in any movie, even one about a guy who dresses up as a bat and fights crime.

You could also question how this prison in the middle of nowhere has a working cable television, I guess. Or who gives the inmates supplies. Or how Batman didn't aggravate his back injury when he missed those jumps to escape. Or how no one else escaped despite it clearly not being all that difficult. Or how a punch to the spine can heal a broken back. Or why everyone in the prison was so helpful despite the flashbacks to Bane's past that showed us they were a bunch of ruthless killers. Those would all be considered more minor plot holes or inconsistencies, whereas Bruce escaping and somehow making it back to Gotham is a major one.

And, sadly, the plot holes in the Star Wars prequels put the ones in Rises to shame. And it's not just the plot holes in the prequels. It's also the characters who do things that contradict their best interests repeatedly. It's the bad writing and acting. It's the sheer boredom of the plot. It's the lack of adventure that made Star Wars great to begin with. It's the lack of any emotion in the fight scenes, all of which are very obviously choreographed. It's the anesthetic, lifeless scenery, almost none of which feels real or lived in. And the list goes on and on and on.
 
Not much of a plot hole but rather an issue with the editing or lack of perspective on time.

How did batman go from the middle of nowhere back to Gotham. Simple that prison is said to be in a kingdom and not exactly miles away from civilization-> So all batman had to do once he escaped the pit was to travel to the kingdom to find a faster mode of transportation and im sure Wayne would have enough connections to get back to Gotham. Not exactly a plot hole. Just lack of details.

Surely if illegal aliens can find ways to get into this country that is patrolled by an expensive army, wouldn't one assume that Batman with all his training will have an easy time to get into Gotham?

The film is long as is and trying to clear up all these details would make this a 5 hour movie. Now star wars, on the other hand .....
 
Not much of a plot hole but rather an issue with the editing or lack of perspective on time.

How did batman go from the middle of nowhere back to Gotham. Simple that prison is said to be in a kingdom and not exactly miles away from civilization-> So all batman had to do once he escaped the pit was to travel to the kingdom to find a faster mode of transportation and im sure Wayne would have enough connections to get back to Gotham. Not exactly a plot hole. Just lack of details.

Surely if illegal aliens can find ways to get into this country that is patrolled by an expensive army, wouldn't one assume that Batman with all his training will have an easy time to get into Gotham?

The film is long as is and trying to clear up all these details would make this a 5 hour movie. Now star wars, on the other hand .....

If you can't explain something, perhaps you shouldn't put it in the movie? That prison could have just as easily been in Gotham and served the same purpose in the story.
 
If you can't explain something, perhaps you shouldn't put it in the movie? That prison could have just as easily been in Gotham and served the same purpose in the story.

wouldn't that render a lot of sci-fi movies boring? The pit I think was Nolan's homage to the Lazarus pit. Also putting Batman in the Pit from which he came from was Bane's way of telling batman what he had to go through and a challenge to batman to see if he too can escape in time or watch and despair at the thought of watching Gotham die. If Batman was in Gotham, he too would have died in the nuclear blast rendering the chance to enjoy the revenge on batman impossible. You have to understand that Bane felt that he has defeated the batman and he can do it again so facing batman again was not something that Bane worried about.
 
Joss Whedon would have been a better choice. His sci-fi movie (Serenity) was much better than Abrams' Star Trek movie (which was enjoyable, but basically Star Trek in name only).
 
I'm not sure if I'm alone here, but I haven't been a big fan of anything that JJ Abrams has done.. I've wanted to like everything, love the concepts, they're just not very good at the end of the day.
 
I'm not sure if I'm alone here, but I haven't been a big fan of anything that JJ Abrams has done.. I've wanted to like everything, love the concepts, they're just not very good at the end of the day.

I actually enjoyed his Star Trek movie quite a bit, but I don't think anyone would argue that it wasn't really much of a Star Trek movie. It was a good summer action movie with the Star Trek franchise pasted over it. I feel like he's going to do the same with Star Wars, and I probably won't like it if he does. I was never a big fan of Star Trek, so I didn't mind the re-imagining.

But in principle I agree. I think he's a high concept guy who never quite delivers on his pitch.
 
I actually enjoyed his Star Trek movie quite a bit, but I don't think anyone would argue that it wasn't really much of a Star Trek movie. It was a good summer action movie with the Star Trek franchise pasted over it. I feel like he's going to do the same with Star Wars, and I probably won't like it if he does. I was never a big fan of Star Trek, so I didn't mind the re-imagining.

But in principle I agree. I think he's a high concept guy who never quite delivers on his pitch.

This 300%. I can't believe both of those franchises are selling out to whomever the hottest name at the time happens to be. He was great with Lost, but seriously...for all that he's going to bring longterm to the franchises it might as well be Michael Bay.

I was never a hardcore fan of either, but watched everything in both franchises over the last decade or so, and this choice to "summer blockbusterize" 20-30 year old series is just sad. They should've kept it in the family for Trek (Rick Berman, Frakes). But all the SW fans vitrol has been spent against George Lucas for the prequels and Clone Wars so they'll just accept the first other thing that comes along. Well... here it is.
 
I actually enjoyed his Star Trek movie quite a bit, but I don't think anyone would argue that it wasn't really much of a Star Trek movie. It was a good summer action movie with the Star Trek franchise pasted over it. I feel like he's going to do the same with Star Wars, and I probably won't like it if he does. I was never a big fan of Star Trek, so I didn't mind the re-imagining.

But in principle I agree. I think he's a high concept guy who never quite delivers on his pitch.

JJ Abrams rebooted Star Trek, which is why he was given free reign to change up a lot of things from the history. He's now being asked to direct a sequel to Star Wars, which means he'll have to adhere to strict guidelines. Also he is quoted as saying that he wasn't a fan of Star Trek growing up, but Star Wars was his childhood. I'll give him a shot.
 
This 300%. I can't believe both of those franchises are selling out to whomever the hottest name at the time happens to be. He was great with Lost, but seriously...for all that he's going to bring longterm to the franchises it might as well be Michael Bay.

I was never a hardcore fan of either, but watched everything in both franchises over the last decade or so, and this choice to "summer blockbusterize" 20-30 year old series is just sad. They should've kept it in the family for Trek (Rick Berman, Frakes). But all the SW fans vitrol has been spent against George Lucas for the prequels and Clone Wars so they'll just accept the first other thing that comes along. Well... here it is.

Abrams can't really be credited for much of Lost. He was only involved in the first season, and it might have only really been the first episode. After that, he handed the show off to Lindelof and whoever the other guy was and went on to make movies.

JJ Abrams rebooted Star Trek, which is why he was given free reign to change up a lot of things from the history. He's now being asked to direct a sequel to Star Wars, which means he'll have to adhere to strict guidelines. Also he is quoted as saying that he wasn't a fan of Star Trek growing up, but Star Wars was his childhood. I'll give him a shot.

Well, I mean, we don't really have much of a choice but to give him a shot. I just think Whedon would have been a much better fit, and he was interested in doing it and had just made Disney a billion dollars!
 
Rick berman....

rick berman....










Fuck you rick berman.........

In jj abrams i entrust my childhood fantasies.
 

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