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The Obamas: How We Deal with Our Own Racist Experiences
Barack and Michelle Obama
GILLIAN LAUB
BY SANDRA SOBIERAJ WESTFALL
@sswestfall
12/17/2014 AT 06:30 AM EST
The Obamas open up about raising their daughters, the impact of stereotypes, and what's on the POTUS dance party playlist. Subscribe now for instant access to the exclusive PEOPLE interview!
The protective bubble that comes with the presidency – the armored limo, the Secret Service detail, the White House – shields Barack and Michelle Obamafrom a lot of unpleasantness. But their encounters with racial prejudice aren't as far in the past as one might expect. And they obviously still sting.
"I think people forget that we've lived in the White House for six years," the first lady told PEOPLE, laughing wryly, along with her husband, at the assumption that the first family has been largely insulated from coming face-to-face with racism.
"Before that, Barack Obama was a black man that lived on the South Side of Chicago, who had his share of troubles catching cabs," Mrs. Obama said in the Dec. 10 interview appearing in the new issue of PEOPLE.
"I tell this story – I mean, even as the first lady – during that wonderfully publicized trip I took to Target, not highly disguised, the only person who came up to me in the store was a woman who asked me to help her take something off a shelf. Because she didn't see me as the first lady, she saw me as someone who could help her. Those kinds of things happen in life. So it isn't anything new."
In a 30-minute conversation, the president and Mrs. Obama candidly added their stories to the national discussion of race and racial profiling that was sparked by the deaths of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, and Eric Garner in Staten Island, New York.
"There's no black male my age, who's a professional, who hasn't come out of a restaurant and is waiting for their car and somebody didn't hand them their car keys," said the president, adding that, yes, it had happened to him.
Mrs. Obama recalled another incident: "He was wearing a tuxedo at a black-tie dinner, and somebody asked him to get coffee."
Things have gotten better, both Obamas agreed, but there's still more progress to be made.
"The small irritations or indignities that we experience are nothing compared to what a previous generation experienced," President Obama said. "It's one thing for me to be mistaken for a waiter at a gala. It's another thing for my son to be mistaken for a robber and to be handcuffed, or worse, if he happens to be walking down the street and is dressed the way teenagers dress."
How was the Target incident a racist experience? Is she implying that the person thought she was a Target employee because she was black? Two years ago, when it happened, she thought it was a cute story and said "I felt so good" that a little short lady asked the 6'1" FLOTUS to reach something on a high shelf. But, now it's a racist experience???
And as far being mistaken for a waiter goes...
FLASHBACK: Valerie Jarrett Mistakes 4-Star General For Waiter
President Barack Obama isn’t the only powerful man in Washington who was once confused for a waiter when wearing his evening best. So was a top general in the U.S. Army — by Valerie Jarrett!
As The Daily Caller first reported back in 2011, Obama’s top adviser mistook a four-star general for a waiter during a fancy dinner hosted by the Alfalfa Club. According to a Daily Caller source, as the general walked by Jarrett’s table, she signaled to him that she wanted more libation.
“I’d like another glass of wine,” she reportedly said.
Like a gentleman, the career military man didn’t make a fuss of the matter, according to the source.
“The guy dutifully went up and got her a glass of wine, and then came back and gave it to her and took a seat at the table,” the source said. “Everyone is in tuxedos and gowns at this thing, but the military people are in full dress uniform.”
According to a corroborating report by CNN, the military man in question was then-Vice Chief of Staff of the Army Peter Chiarelli.
Discussing times they’ve been subjected to racist insults during a recent interview with People magazine, the Obamas mentioned how President Obama was also once mistaken for a waiter during a fancy dinner party in the days before he became the most powerful man in the world.
“He was wearing a tuxedo at a black-tie dinner, and somebody asked him to get coffee,” Mrs. Obama explained.
No word whether the Obamas think Jarrett’s slight against the general was spurred by racial animus — or just an honest mistake.
Barack and Michelle Obama
GILLIAN LAUB
BY SANDRA SOBIERAJ WESTFALL
@sswestfall
12/17/2014 AT 06:30 AM EST
The Obamas open up about raising their daughters, the impact of stereotypes, and what's on the POTUS dance party playlist. Subscribe now for instant access to the exclusive PEOPLE interview!
The protective bubble that comes with the presidency – the armored limo, the Secret Service detail, the White House – shields Barack and Michelle Obamafrom a lot of unpleasantness. But their encounters with racial prejudice aren't as far in the past as one might expect. And they obviously still sting.
"I think people forget that we've lived in the White House for six years," the first lady told PEOPLE, laughing wryly, along with her husband, at the assumption that the first family has been largely insulated from coming face-to-face with racism.
"Before that, Barack Obama was a black man that lived on the South Side of Chicago, who had his share of troubles catching cabs," Mrs. Obama said in the Dec. 10 interview appearing in the new issue of PEOPLE.
"I tell this story – I mean, even as the first lady – during that wonderfully publicized trip I took to Target, not highly disguised, the only person who came up to me in the store was a woman who asked me to help her take something off a shelf. Because she didn't see me as the first lady, she saw me as someone who could help her. Those kinds of things happen in life. So it isn't anything new."
In a 30-minute conversation, the president and Mrs. Obama candidly added their stories to the national discussion of race and racial profiling that was sparked by the deaths of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, and Eric Garner in Staten Island, New York.
"There's no black male my age, who's a professional, who hasn't come out of a restaurant and is waiting for their car and somebody didn't hand them their car keys," said the president, adding that, yes, it had happened to him.
Mrs. Obama recalled another incident: "He was wearing a tuxedo at a black-tie dinner, and somebody asked him to get coffee."
Things have gotten better, both Obamas agreed, but there's still more progress to be made.
"The small irritations or indignities that we experience are nothing compared to what a previous generation experienced," President Obama said. "It's one thing for me to be mistaken for a waiter at a gala. It's another thing for my son to be mistaken for a robber and to be handcuffed, or worse, if he happens to be walking down the street and is dressed the way teenagers dress."
How was the Target incident a racist experience? Is she implying that the person thought she was a Target employee because she was black? Two years ago, when it happened, she thought it was a cute story and said "I felt so good" that a little short lady asked the 6'1" FLOTUS to reach something on a high shelf. But, now it's a racist experience???
FLOTUS on Letterman 2 years ago said:I thought I was undercover. I have to tell you something about this trip though. No one knew that was me because a woman actually walked up to me, right? I was in the detergent aisle, and she said — I kid you not — she said, ‘Excuse me, I just have to ask you something,’ and I thought, ‘Oh, cover’s blown.’ She said, ‘Can you reach on that shelf and hand me the detergent?’ I kid you not…And the only thing she said — I reached up, ’cause she was short, and I reached up, pulled it down — she said, ‘Well, you didn’t have to make it look so easy.’ That was my interaction. I felt so good. ... She had no idea who I was. I thought, as soon as she walked up — I was with my assistant, and I said, ‘This is it, it’s over. We’re going to have to leave.’ She just needed the detergent.
And as far being mistaken for a waiter goes...
FLASHBACK: Valerie Jarrett Mistakes 4-Star General For Waiter
President Barack Obama isn’t the only powerful man in Washington who was once confused for a waiter when wearing his evening best. So was a top general in the U.S. Army — by Valerie Jarrett!
As The Daily Caller first reported back in 2011, Obama’s top adviser mistook a four-star general for a waiter during a fancy dinner hosted by the Alfalfa Club. According to a Daily Caller source, as the general walked by Jarrett’s table, she signaled to him that she wanted more libation.
“I’d like another glass of wine,” she reportedly said.
Like a gentleman, the career military man didn’t make a fuss of the matter, according to the source.
“The guy dutifully went up and got her a glass of wine, and then came back and gave it to her and took a seat at the table,” the source said. “Everyone is in tuxedos and gowns at this thing, but the military people are in full dress uniform.”
According to a corroborating report by CNN, the military man in question was then-Vice Chief of Staff of the Army Peter Chiarelli.
Discussing times they’ve been subjected to racist insults during a recent interview with People magazine, the Obamas mentioned how President Obama was also once mistaken for a waiter during a fancy dinner party in the days before he became the most powerful man in the world.
“He was wearing a tuxedo at a black-tie dinner, and somebody asked him to get coffee,” Mrs. Obama explained.
No word whether the Obamas think Jarrett’s slight against the general was spurred by racial animus — or just an honest mistake.