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Obama's Plan to Regulate the Internet is 332 Pages. The Public Can't Read It!

Do Not Sell My Personal Information
They technology that isn't available to the general public would blow your mind.

You don't go from iphone 1 to iphone 6 in a month; there is no money to be made that way.

Do we really think when 56k was the standard internet it was the same infrastructure the military, for example, was operating on? Lol get real.

IT'S REGULATED.
 
The specifics of the grab don’t matter as much as the direction in which things must inevitably move. Regulation is an absorbing state like the Hotel California. You can try to check out any time you like, but once inside you can never really leave. Three hundred pages of regulation will become 301 … 302 … A new administration might slow down the rate of growth, but it can never reverse it.

The very success of the Internet doomed its independence. Like any rich, glittering center of wealth that springs up in the desert sands, it would inevitably be coveted by nearby chieftains. And if there’s anything this administration — and to a lesser extent any administration — hankers after it is power. So a-raiding they will go. So here is prince Barack, at the tech city gates, demanding the keys. Not that he will know what to do with it after obtaining them. But possession of the bauble is in the first instance enough.

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The actual effect of government control is to institutionalize incompetence. The more Obama controls, the more he destroys. Take Obamacare. Hardly a day goes by when we don’t read that 80 million records have been stolen by Chinese hackers from Obamacare provider Anthem; or that Obamacare itself is sharing information with third party providers. Only the other day the public learned that 800,000 wrong tax forms were mailed to Obamacare policy holders because they used the wrong year in the computation; that after 3 years the backend isn’t finished.


http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2015/02/23/losing-the-internet/#ixzz3Slo3iw4Y
 
Curious as to what would actually change if this goes through

Everyone wants to know what's in the 322 pages of regulations. Unfortunately, President Transparency will not let the public see it. Tomorrow 5 people (3 Dems and 2 Reps) will vote on it...that's it. Once it gets passed, then you can see it, but then there's no going back. For now, it's a secret. The Chair of the FCC refused to testify. What the hell would be wrong with letting the public see it for 30 days??? It's criminal...

"Pass it to see what's in it" worked for Obamacare. The Dems are using it again for another power grab. They think keeping all these regulations a secret from the public AND our representatives is going to make it more free and open...and cheaper. :chuckle:
 
How does this shit work with the cables? Do these companies share them? Or can they own them outright and then sub-lease them to another company?

Bottom line...who owns the cables and why is only one company available to me in my neighborhood?
 
How does this shit work with the cables? Do these companies share them? Or can they own them outright and then sub-lease them to another company?

Bottom line...who owns the cables and why is only one company available to me in my neighborhood?

You see Jig, the internet is a series of tubes created by Al Gore.

The internet can be monopolized and "owned" just as the earth your house was built on can be "owned". It's very sad.

Can I rent the ocean yet? I'd like to make friends with some narwhals.
 

So Boobie, there is your answer. At best, nothing will change, since no internet providers have restricted any websites from users. At worst, they have claimed the authority to set prices, control content, and pretty much whatever they want to do. I'm sure you are thrilled that we will have this in a "free" country. And since censorship isn't far down the road, I won't be able to say I told you so since I will be locked up for voicing my dissent.
 
You know I respect the hell out of you Max but nuggets like this one makes you look Rush Limbaugh-ish, which I know you're not.
What part(s) in Max's comment don't you agree with?
 
I'm not really on either side of this, because I don't support secret votes over secret proposals by unelected cabals of people behind closed doors. That, in and of itself, is pure bullshit.

However, the reason for net neutrality is to prevent Comcast or others from downthrottling using QoS (quality of service) metrics; or in essence, creating internet "fast lanes."

@The Oi , asks "who owns the cables?" Depends. Typically one company either lays the cable, purchases in bulk, or leases from the local government. The local governments typically sell out the rights for their area in exchange for infrastructure improvements and grouped (lower) rates. But this is usually only effective for RF cable, not fiber, or telephone lines (DSL).

So, in essence, something has to happen. Whether or not that means creating a new public Internet utility is another question in itself. We seem have been placed here by the courts. Previous case law seems to suggest that if the internet is not a public utility, then companies like Comcast can filter traffic as they see fit, because they own the medium and internet lines are thus not like telephone lines.

From an ideological standpoint, I can't understand the argument that we would be better off without government assistance. Japan has the best internet on Earth, and that is largely due to the Japanese government paying for massive internet infrastructure programs.

I really don't want to argue libertarianism in yet another thread, I just don't it's worth the time or effort to do so whenever anything comes up.

From a technical standpoint, well, it's purely a privacy issue. Meaning, if Comcast can't see what you are doing, then you'll invariably end up in the shit slow traffic tier.

What does this mean for users like me, that generally use VPNs or encryption for lots of use? That VPN traffic will be slow.

What does this mean for most users? That almost every thing they do will be monitored, recorded, analyzed, and sold, by their internet service provider.

Not only is this about not allowing companies like Comcast to dictate which websites are served at which speeds; but this is predominantly about keeping the internet as an open medium.

I'd prefer the internet be left in the state it is today; however, the corporations that largely provide the internet services here in the United States are dead set on pursuing their agenda.

I don't see any alternative but Net Neutrality, unfortunately.
 
Calling for deregulation and market competition isn't "libertarianism". Is that how far we have fallen as a country? The free market is some fringe idea only the kooks can get behind? Holy shit are we fucked.
 
To my knowledge, South Korea is another country whose internet vastly out-performs most of the world.

Their government did far more to drive competition than ours, and it resulted in a widely varied competition.

Can't buy the argument that it's government which would prevent such competition here.
 
Can't buy the argument that it's government which would prevent such competition here.

I know you can't buy it. You will never will. That doesn't mean it isn't true.

The Federal Communications Commission this week will begin considering a draft decision to intervene against state laws in Tennessee and North Carolina that limit Internet access operated and sold by cities, according to a senior FCC official. The agency's chairman, Tom Wheeler, could circulate the draft to his fellow commissioners as early as Monday and the decision will be voted on in the FCC's public meeting on Feb. 26.


If approved, the FCC would find that the states have erected barriers to the timely and reasonable deployment of high-speed Internet access in Chattanooga, Tenn. and Wilson, N.C. It would effectively knock down the state laws that the cities say inhibit them from building viable competitors to the likes of Comcast and Verizon.

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Roughly 20 states have such limits on the books. Overturning the ones in Tennessee and North Carolina would mark the opening of a wider battle over municipal broadband by the federal government. Although any FCC decision in February would be narrowly tailored to the two cities, the legal theory underpinning the proposed action would likely be used to answer similar petitions in the future involving other states.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-is-moving-to-preempt-state-broadband-limits/
 

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