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Ohio studies vehicle-miles tax to replace or supplement fuel tax

Lynn Ischay/The Plain Dealer

The state is studying ways to implement a vehicle tax that would tax drivers on now much they drive on a yearly basis.

Imagine being taxed on the number of miles you drive instead of the amount of gasoline you buy.

Oregon has tried it. North Carolina is thinking about it, and Ohio is exploring an idea to replace or supplement the state's existing fuel tax with a vehicle miles tax.

The Vehicle Miles of Travel tax is being hailed as an innovative way to generate transportation revenue by states that have seen gasoline tax dollars stagnate because of people driving less and cars becoming more fuel efficient.

A task force that studied Ohio's transportation needs said that a mileage tax has the potential to raise revenue and that the state should look into the idea.

"Most people on the task force agreed that we need to invest more in our infrastructure, but if you want to do that, how do you raise funds in a fair and equitable way?" said David Beach, who was on the state panel. "With new technology, it becomes feasible to have different ways to collect taxes."

The task force's main recommendation for increasing revenue is to raise Ohio's current 28-cents-a-gallon gasoline tax by 13 cents to pay for roads, bridges and transportation. But Gov. Ted Strickland has said he would not support a tax increase.
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Bonnie Teeuwen, deputy director of the Ohio Department of Transportation district that includes Cuyahoga County, said she has volunteered the district to try out a mileage tax.

And transportation officials for the federal government and more than two dozen states, including Ohio, have contacted Oregon's Department of Transportation -- considered the leader in mileage tax issues.

The Transportation Department and Oregon State University tested a Road User Fee in a pilot project in 2006.

A dashboard display, a GPS receiver and antenna, a mileage counter unit and a short-range-radio-frequency antenna were placed in 285 vehicles. The counter tallied miles a person drove in the state.

Two Portland gasoline stations were equipped with mileage-reading devices. So when a driver pulled up to the gas pump, a radio wave transmitted information from the car to the pump, which sent that information to a computer in the gas station office. The driver's receipt from the pump showed the gas tax was removed and the mileage tax added. The driver paid the amount due.

Under the pilot program, drivers were charged 1.2 cents a mile, which was considered equivalent to the state's 24-cents-a-gallon gas tax rate. That amount could be higher to raise more revenue. There could be an additional cost to people who drive less fuel-efficient cars, like SUVs.

"For the consumer it was seamless. It was exactly the same as pulling up to the pump and getting a receipt that had the mileage fee and the gas tax fee, with the deduction of the gas tax fee," said Shelly Snow, spokeswoman for the Oregon Transportation Department, which has studied the mileage tax since 2001.

Oregon's project, which received $2.1 million from the Federal Highway Administration and $770,000 from the state, ended in 2007, but officials decided further study was warranted. Gov. Ted Kulongoski included a proposal in the new state budget to fund a program to look into how a mileage tax could be added, Snow said.

"We found the concept was feasible but there are several key things that would have to be done or researched further before anything like this could be put into practice," she said.

Potential obstacles: costs, managing data

Imposing the tax through gas stations worked, but the cost would be too high to retrofit all vehicles with the equipment, said Snow. The gear could be put in new vehicles by manufacturers.

"That's one of the reasons this concept is still years down the road," she said.

Another obstacle is how to gather the information and collect the mileage fee at a minimal cost to the state and without causing headaches for motorists, such as filling out paperwork.

Ohio's 28-cents-per-gallon gasoline tax pays for road and bridge repairs. ODOT receives about 17 cents of the tax, or about $1 billion a year in revenue. The remainder of the tax goes to counties, cities, townships and agencies.

"When it was first instituted, the gas tax really was a good way of assessing a user fee to the roadway system," said Scott Varner, ODOT's deputy director of communications. "The thought was the more gas you use, the more driving you were doing and the more roads you used."

But as fuel-efficient vehicles were developed, there was a disparity between vehicles that got good gas mileage and those that didn't, Varner said.

"It is a very fascinating idea to somehow find a way to better track how much someone truly uses the roadways," he said.

Beach, director of the Cleveland Museum of Natural History's GreenCityBlueLake Institute, which promotes environmental programs and sustainability, said that as a driver, he doesn't know if he would support a mileage tax until more details were available.

"I wouldn't want a mileage-based gas tax if it meant I had to pay the same for my small, fuel-efficient car as someone with a big gas guzzler," Beach said.

Beach said that instead of coming up with more taxes, the state should work to break the cycle of automobile dependence.

"The problem with both a volume-based [gas tax] and mileage-based tax is that it gives ODOT an incentive to promote more driving to obtain more revenue," he said. "We need to develop a more balanced transportation system that gives people more choices."

Monitors would create privacy issues, Ohioan says

Robert Brown, treasurer of Case Western Reserve University and a member of Ohio's transportation task force, said placing transponders in cars raises several serious issues.

"There are some privacy issues because essentially somebody or some machine somewhere needs to kind of know where your car is," said Brown, a former assistant director of ODOT. "Also, how do you ensure that if a transponder is built into every vehicle that it is not tampered with? There are an awful lot of policy issues for people to grapple with."

Brown said he supports increasing the gas tax instead.

In the past year, department officials in Oregon have traveled the country giving presentations about the mileage tax, including one to the transportation task force in Ohio, said Snow, of the Oregon Transportation Department.

"It is clear a new source of revenue other than gas taxes is needed to help states repair, maintain and build roads and bridges," she said.

A mileage tax might not be enacted, she said, "but it might bring other things about and open people's minds to something else."

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/01/ohio_studies_vehiclemiles_tax.html


Personally, I'm not a big fan of this idea seeing as I drive about 50 miles/day. Any thoughts?
 
Ohio has soooo many taxes. Im pretty sure there is a Death Tax.
 
Taxes is a part of the reason I left Ohio, a small part, but a part none the less. We got nearly a 600 a month raise just from the state/county/city income tax we no longer have to pay living here in Texas. It was crazy to me how much taxes we paid on everything in Ohio. We pay an 8% sales tax here in Texas across the board, property tax and that is about it. I really never understood what the hell Ohio did with all its tax base, its not like the state is busting with social programs like California. I really feel bad if you guys get charged a new tax like this, you would think people would start holding the Ohio goverment accountable for where in the hell all the money is going.

I realize this is a side complaint, but things like pay to play really pissed me off about Ohio. As much money as Riverside made from all of its sports programs I still had to pay 200 per kid per sport.

Personally I think most of the people in Ohio just do not understand how bad they are being screwd.
 
Me wife and I drive 50 each way/ I have a Civic and CRV to get more miles per gallon. It's bullshit, just make the gas tax higher then. I don't want shit in my car tracking me.
 
This would suck. As if Driving 100 miles a day to get to and from a job I hate wasn't enough...
 
If they really want revenue, Ohio residents should finally allow for the construction of a casino. It seems like every state has one except for us. I'm not sure how much revenue it would actually bring in, but I would guess that it would be pretty decent.
 
If they really want revenue, Ohio residents should finally allow for the construction of a casino. It seems like every state has one except for us. I'm not sure how much revenue it would actually bring in, but I would guess that it would be pretty decent.

By no means am I an expert on casinos, but I do know about a casino about 50- 60 KM away from where I live and let me tell you the town is shit, but because of the casino the town is loaded. It brings a lot of tourists from around my house as it is the closest one that I know about. Actually I think the second closest one is in Niagra which is like 6 hours away lol. So yeah casinos are good if you want extra revenue.

Back on track man a driving tax eh? Well let me get this straight first ok.
Ok- 1 you have to pay for the car
2-you have to pay for the gas
3-you have to pay for miles now?

F that. People are going to work to pay for their mileage and gas lol.
 
Taxes is a part of the reason I left Ohio, a small part, but a part none the less. We got nearly a 600 a month raise just from the state/county/city income tax we no longer have to pay living here in Texas. It was crazy to me how much taxes we paid on everything in Ohio. We pay an 8% sales tax here in Texas across the board, property tax and that is about it. I really never understood what the hell Ohio did with all its tax base, its not like the state is busting with social programs like California. I really feel bad if you guys get charged a new tax like this, you would think people would start holding the Ohio goverment accountable for where in the hell all the money is going.

I realize this is a side complaint, but things like pay to play really pissed me off about Ohio. As much money as Riverside made from all of its sports programs I still had to pay 200 per kid per sport.

Personally I think most of the people in Ohio just do not understand how bad they are being screwd.

Think about this. What other state would elect an known embezzler into the Governor's seat?
 
Think about this. What other state would elect an known embezzler into the Governor's seat?

Who are you refferencing, my Ohio history is very limted.
 
It's a privilege to live in the great state of Ohio, and for that we should expect to pay a premium. I mean our tropical climate, our scenic beauty, the bustling night life... we are the dream state. :shifty:
 
Why do you think I will never step foot in NJ again? I've got love for it because that is where I grew up but it's always a candidate for most corrupt state in the union and without knowing the official ranking has to be up there with the highest taxes. I am in WV now where they actually require you to prove citizenship to get a license (unlike MD) and have property taxes about 1/3rd of MD and NJ.
 
Hmmm....let's see.

Option #1)
- raise gas by 13 cents.

Option #2)
- Require all Ohio vehicles be retrofitted with a dashboard display, a GPS receiver and antenna, a mileage counter unit and a short-range-radio-frequency antenna. COST???
- Require new vehicles for Ohio drivers already has the equipment installed. COST???
- Equip gas stations with mileage counting devices. COST???
- Need a department, equipment and people for the collection and management of all the data. COST???
- Need 1000's of lawyers to defend all the lawsuits from motorists that don't want the state of Ohio tracking their every movement 24/7. COST???????????

What a dumbass fricking idea. The cost of doing all that shit and the mileage tax will probably be greater than the gas tax. Just raise the gas tax by 13 cents. I was just paying 4 bucks a gallon 6 months ago....13 cents is nothing.
 
Yeah the cost of GPS systems would be outragious. What would be cool though is when someone makes a hack for it and you go to the state pen for trying to save 13 cents a gallon!
 

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