Walter White
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I figured it should have it's own thread to try to keep the main Shumpert thread a little more clean. At least keep it a place for fair criticism and optimism, analysis, and overall news. This might be a better place to vent and talk about trades.
This thread will probably become more relevant near the deadline. But there have been trade rumors already. Many false, but some I think are legit and if we aren't shopping him, we are listening to offers for sure. Even if Shump turns it around, which would be great, he is still our main trade chip and expendable piece we have either way. I went through every team and put together some base trade ideas that are at least somewhat feasible under the right circumstance:
Shump for Korver and Sefolosha
Shump for Avery Bradley.
Shump (+filler?) for Jodie Meeks and CJ Watson
Shump for Jameer Nelson and Will Barton
Shump (+assets?) for Ariza or Beverley
Shump for Lou Williams
Shump and Mo for Rubio
Shump for Tyreke Evans
Shump for PJ Tucker (and Barbosa?)
Shump and assets for Rudy Gay
Shump and assets for Collison and/or Mclemore
Shump, Frye, Mo, and assets for Wade ( kidding)
(Those are about all the best, semi realistic ones I could come up with. One thing to remember is that Shump will hopefully up his value and every team value players differently. These ideas are also just base trades that I don't think would be too far off with adjustments from either side. Some of them would take special circumstance, but that is why we wait to see what happens at the deadline. And when I say assets, I mean including picks or players like Mcrae, Felder, or rights to Cedi Osman etc.)
I'm an advocate of the Lou Williams idea. It is simple and probably most realistic since Lakers have Russell, Huertas, Clarkson, and Calderon so they probably would jump on swapping him for a defensive SG. Lou would fill the back up PG well and give us another ball handler and lights out shooter. Basically JR Smith of the PG position. The downside is losing defense and how that would impact facing GS. So it would be nice to find a defensive wing to replace Shump for matchup purposes, but I'd straight up do this trade. We could find a wing through buyout season or via another trade.
Shump for Korver straight up or Shump for Sefolosha straight up I wouldn't do. But for both, I would but I'm not sure Hawks would. So we might have to throw in Mcrae or a pick but it could be a solid trade. We add a shooter and also defense to replace Shump. However, Korver and Sefolosha are both expiring so who knows what they will ask for in the offseason. Not sure if that works in favor or against Hawks wanting to trade them. Or if we really want to risk rentals for players that aren't worth it.
Shump for Bradley is probably a stretch unless Bradley wants out. Otherwise, Celtics have like 5 point guards and probably wouldn't mind trading him. Trade never made as much sense in the past since we always had Delly. But now that we could use a back up PG, it makes way more sense. And we would get to keep the defense. We might have to throw in assets.
Getting Ariza and Beverley both in a package would be a slam dunk, but not sure Rockets go for it. Beverley would be a perfect back up PG, but his injury history is a problem. It is why I wouldn't trade Shump straight up for him. But we will get to see how healthy he is later in the season when he comes back and maybe we would. We probably need to throw in assets too if Ariza is involved, even if a trade doesn't include Beverley and is centered on just Ariza.
PJ Tucker and Barbosa would be a solid package, but I'm not sure Barbosa is a legit back up PG still. And we don't exactly need Tucker since we have Dunleavy. Tucker is more tradeable than ever though now with the Suns trying to develop young guys. Proof: http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/ba...ped-off-second-unit-after-uninspired-showing/
Rudy Gay is always the slam dunk trade. He will most likely be traded this year, just not sure what he will fetch and if we can field a competitive offer. I'd be worried about the fact he is expiring though and he would likely be a rental.
With Tyreke Evans, he could basically be our 6'6 back up PG, but I don't know if New Orleans would trade him, and he would very likely be a rental as well. But I included him for @gourimoko
I'm not really messing with Rubio or anything including Mclemore. But I had to include them because they are always in the rumors.
This thread will probably become more relevant near the deadline. But there have been trade rumors already. Many false, but some I think are legit and if we aren't shopping him, we are listening to offers for sure. Even if Shump turns it around, which would be great, he is still our main trade chip and expendable piece we have either way. I went through every team and put together some base trade ideas that are at least somewhat feasible under the right circumstance:
Shump for Korver and Sefolosha
Shump for Avery Bradley.
Shump (+filler?) for Jodie Meeks and CJ Watson
Shump for Jameer Nelson and Will Barton
Shump (+assets?) for Ariza or Beverley
Shump for Lou Williams
Shump and Mo for Rubio
Shump for Tyreke Evans
Shump for PJ Tucker (and Barbosa?)
Shump and assets for Rudy Gay
Shump and assets for Collison and/or Mclemore
Shump, Frye, Mo, and assets for Wade ( kidding)
(Those are about all the best, semi realistic ones I could come up with. One thing to remember is that Shump will hopefully up his value and every team value players differently. These ideas are also just base trades that I don't think would be too far off with adjustments from either side. Some of them would take special circumstance, but that is why we wait to see what happens at the deadline. And when I say assets, I mean including picks or players like Mcrae, Felder, or rights to Cedi Osman etc.)
I'm an advocate of the Lou Williams idea. It is simple and probably most realistic since Lakers have Russell, Huertas, Clarkson, and Calderon so they probably would jump on swapping him for a defensive SG. Lou would fill the back up PG well and give us another ball handler and lights out shooter. Basically JR Smith of the PG position. The downside is losing defense and how that would impact facing GS. So it would be nice to find a defensive wing to replace Shump for matchup purposes, but I'd straight up do this trade. We could find a wing through buyout season or via another trade.
Shump for Korver straight up or Shump for Sefolosha straight up I wouldn't do. But for both, I would but I'm not sure Hawks would. So we might have to throw in Mcrae or a pick but it could be a solid trade. We add a shooter and also defense to replace Shump. However, Korver and Sefolosha are both expiring so who knows what they will ask for in the offseason. Not sure if that works in favor or against Hawks wanting to trade them. Or if we really want to risk rentals for players that aren't worth it.
Shump for Bradley is probably a stretch unless Bradley wants out. Otherwise, Celtics have like 5 point guards and probably wouldn't mind trading him. Trade never made as much sense in the past since we always had Delly. But now that we could use a back up PG, it makes way more sense. And we would get to keep the defense. We might have to throw in assets.
Getting Ariza and Beverley both in a package would be a slam dunk, but not sure Rockets go for it. Beverley would be a perfect back up PG, but his injury history is a problem. It is why I wouldn't trade Shump straight up for him. But we will get to see how healthy he is later in the season when he comes back and maybe we would. We probably need to throw in assets too if Ariza is involved, even if a trade doesn't include Beverley and is centered on just Ariza.
PJ Tucker and Barbosa would be a solid package, but I'm not sure Barbosa is a legit back up PG still. And we don't exactly need Tucker since we have Dunleavy. Tucker is more tradeable than ever though now with the Suns trying to develop young guys. Proof: http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/ba...ped-off-second-unit-after-uninspired-showing/
Rudy Gay is always the slam dunk trade. He will most likely be traded this year, just not sure what he will fetch and if we can field a competitive offer. I'd be worried about the fact he is expiring though and he would likely be a rental.
With Tyreke Evans, he could basically be our 6'6 back up PG, but I don't know if New Orleans would trade him, and he would very likely be a rental as well. But I included him for @gourimoko
I'm not really messing with Rubio or anything including Mclemore. But I had to include them because they are always in the rumors.
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