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Sixers Scoop: Snow remembers Philly fondly
11/20/2005

PHILADELPHIA -- About an hour before Saturday’s game with the Cleveland Cavaliers, a 76ers coach wrote some fast facts about an opposing player on the whiteboard. Defensive-minded. Takes charges. Fifteen-foot range. Considering that this opposing player was Eric Snow, the coach probably didn’t need to write anything. The Sixers already know a whole lot about Snow, who played six-and-half successful seasons in Philadelphia, including its drive to the NBA Finals in 2000-01. And even though Snow is now two seasons removed from his days with the Sixers, the Cavs points guard said he still has a lot of strong feelings towards the team and city that bred him into the player that he is.


"It’s still strange," Snow said before Saturday’s game, his first return to Philadelphia this year. "I spent a lot of time here. I still have a lot of friends. It’s not often when you go into an arena and know everyone -- people at the doors, everybody working the game. It’s still a special place, and it’s going to continue to be one."

This season, Snow has continued to do what he did best in Philadelphia: Provide valuable leadership. With the reliable pass-first point guard steering the ship, Cleveland has jumped out to its second-best start in franchise history.

"Eric has a presence about him," rookie Cavs coach Mike Brown said. "He’s running the ballclub extremely well."

Even the King himself agreed.

"He’s been to a finals before," Cleveland star LeBron James said. "He’s been to a lot of playoff games. He knows the ins and outs of this league. On the court and off the court, he has really helped this team develop."

Interestingly enough, Snow did not rule out a trade to the dysfunctional New York Knicks, whose coach, Larry Brown, has been rumored to want a true point guard to play alongside Stephon Marbury. Brown and Snow, of course, shared many good seasons together in Philadelphia.

"That’s my man. He’s gonna stay my man," Snow said of Brown. "I’m happy where I’m at. But if anything were to change, I’ve love to be with Coach Brown."
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Not often does someone get to play alongside two NBA superstars on two different teams. So granted, Snow has a good take on the similarities -- and differences -- between James and Philly’s own star, Allen Iverson.

"They continue to amaze," Snow said. "Their intensity, their energy and how they’re able to do thing that even NBA players just dream about."

This season, James, 20, is averaging 26.7 points, 5.2 rebounds and 3.8 assists per game on 50 percent shooting from the field. Iverson, 30, leads the league in scoring with a 32.0 points per game clip. He’s also averaging 7.9 assists per contest.

When pressed about it, however, Snow did offer a fundamental difference between the two players.

"LeBron’s game is made to play with other people," Snow said. "A.I.’s game is made for people to follow him."

Sixers coach Maurice Cheeks, who had the unenviable task of preparing for Dwyane Wade and James on back-to-back nights, didn’t back down when asked to compare the players of the famed 2003 draft to some stars of the past.

"I don’t know if Michael Jordan and Larry Bird were as good as these guys are now," Cheeks said. "These guys are pretty good now, only two years into the league."

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In James’ first two years in the league, the Cavaliers struggled and failed to make the playoffs. Now, with a solid supporting cast that includes former Sixer Larry Hughes, Donyell Marhsall and Damon Jones, the Cavs are fast becoming one of the elite teams in the Eastern Conference.

Before Saturday’s game with the Sixers, they had won six straight.

"When we get teams down, we’re not letting them back in," James said. "When we get them down, we’re gonna step on them. We all have the winning mentality and that burning desire to win."

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i have to admit Snow is playing better to this point then i thought he would but if there were other options out there i would explore them. i just think for him to go to the Knicks a 3rd team would have to get involved because they don't have much that would help the Cavaliers.
 
Snow is playing some good ball. His defense is solid, with only super quick Iverson and Parker getting the better of him. For all his offensive short comings he is still shooting the ball at over 50% which include many jumpers. He is protecting the ball very well, and getting the Cavs into their offense well.

Looking at the Knicks roster there is nothing that we want that matches up salary wise.
 
Nah, Snow and Jones are the point gaurds this year and probably will be for next year and maybe even the year after that. We will be fine with them too, because we are solid at every other position. But, we need to acquire a young solid point gaurd eventually and start working on him and try to mold him into a pg that will play next to Lebron for years to come.
 
Karma my man, you are reading it with the wrong tone. lol You are reading too much into it.
 
I doubt we trade Snow for anything, unless it is of astronomically higher value. He is too important off the court for us to even consider it: given his "captain" status, the only vocal veteran leader, and his involvement in the community. I don't think that his contract will be that much of a burden towards the end, I can forsee him even transforming into an assistant coach after retiring to help out the team's cap situation....
 
i say keep snow...and he has proved me wrong so far in that he has taken shots that are there and even getting to lay a few in...as long as he knows his position, we keep him...
 
If Snow ever gets traded it will be in the offseason. The Cavs don't have the depth at PG where they can afford to trade him.
Snow has been average this year. Not very good but not terrible. 4 points and 4 assists from a starting PG aren't the greatest numbers. His FG% is good because he's taking very few shots. Teams have been backing off him at times lately since he provides little offensive or perimeter threat. His D has been pretty good although he does have trouble with some PG's.

Snow is what he is. He has been doing a decent job but PG is a position where the Cavs need a big upgrade in the next couple of seasons.
 
NarlCavs said:
If Snow ever gets traded it will be in the offseason. The Cavs don't have the depth at PG where they can afford to trade him.
Snow has been average this year. Not very good but not terrible. 4 points and 4 assists from a starting PG aren't the greatest numbers. His FG% is good because he's taking very few shots. Teams have been backing off him at times lately since he provides little offensive or perimeter threat. His D has been pretty good although he does have trouble with some PG's.

Snow is what he is. He has been doing a decent job but PG is a position where the Cavs need a big upgrade in the next couple of seasons.
Agree completely. Both our guards have huge holes in there games and luckily most of the time they are different and one can compensate for the other's weaknesses. Unfortunately against quick PG's, we automatically are at a big disadvantage with either and their will definitely be time in the future where we could combine the two PG's.

This will have to be the focus of the draft for the next few years: need to find a guy like Barbosa that we can groom for the starter spot. Luckily because of Larry and Lebron we don't need a great playmaker at the PG spot just someone who can defend and knock down the open jumper
 
WHY???? who from new york will make the cavs better. no one. if its not broke dont fix it. he is filling his role very well and we are winning it would be stupid to get rid of him.
 
I think the chances of Snow being moved are very very good ....but ...I don't foresee it happening until this coming offseason, when we have a chance to bring in another point that we can get broken in throughout training camp ...or ...the realistic possibility that we may decide to implement Larry Hughes/Lebron James in some form of quasi-point guard capacity.


With the skill set that both Lebron and Smooth Larry have, we do have the flexibility and unique ability to put together a team that doesn't need, or truly have to utilize a true point guard ...

I think the possility and discussion of this possibility deserves its own thread, actually..

Because IF we decide to go that route ...and it's something that has been circulating in my brain since watching how positively it worked in the 4th qtr of the 76ers game...

We, for the 1st time this season, used Lebron bringing the ball up the court, and then having Larry initiate the offense in the half court ...it worked amazingly well ...and the Sixers had no answer to it defensively ...they were helpless, actually ....and I'm surprised it hasn't been talked about ALOT in Cavs media ..radio,newspapers, television...

Because it was the utilization of Larry and Lebron in the 4th qtr, by Mike Brown, that completely turned that game inside out and into the Cavs favor ..

Just using Lebron and Larry in this capacity could open up our roster for a very very unique and devastating starting five ...with tough dimensions for any opposintg team to have to try to deal with ...from a size, speed, and strength standpoint ...it could be our ticket to greatness down the road ...

Think of the size problems ...

Lebron 6'8
Larry 6'6

Now that's a huge backcourt ....both with the ability to breakdown defenses ...
 
There is only one possibility that I would even consider for us to trade with New York and that is a 3 way with Minnesota for Garnett. Anything else, I don't really think we need.

Edwin
 
We are playing pretty well at this point, so I don't see a trade for Snow this year. But Wine is right, in the offseason it might make sense. I think Marcus Banks among others will also be available to back fill, since New York will have no point guard of interest in return.
 
wonder what the Hornets would want for Speedy Claxton? my guess would be either Luke or Sasha.
 
Stuffed Turkeys

Knicks play like fat 'Cats

By FRANK ISOLA
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER


Knicks' Maurice Taylor loses grip as Primoz Brezec and Bobcats come to play.

CHARLOTTE - Roughly $90 million, give or take a few dollars on Jerome James' contract, is all that separates the Knicks from the Charlotte Bobcats. Which only goes to show that the league's highest payroll can't buy wins, and on some nights, all those fat contracts don't even guarantee effort, pride or a high basketball IQ.
If you didn't know any better, you'd swear that the guys with NEW YORK on their uniforms were the expansion team. Meanwhile, the Bobcats, owners of an NBA-low $34 million payroll, managed to get more bang for their bucks last night, especially on the scoreboard.

"They were the better team tonight," Stephon Marbury said after the Knicks suffered a 108-95 loss in their debut at Bobcats Arena. "They made the hustle plays."

It took a token fourth-quarter rally for the Knicks to avoid utter humiliation. They fell behind by 22 in the third quarter and trailed by double digits over the final 19 minutes.

"I thought in the first half they got every loose ball, and that just kills you," Larry Brown said after his team fell to 3-8. "It's like putting a dagger in you. I don't think that's anything but us not matching their energy."

With Eddy Curry sidelined with a strained left calf, Brown was dismayed that his team gave up 21 offensive rebounds and 22 second-chance points. The Knicks also committed 22turnovers.

"You can't keep turning it over like we do and get beat on the offensive boards as badly as we do and have a chance to win on the road," Brown said. "Those are two areas that have been consistently bad for us."

Brown continues to drop subtle hints that the Knicks' roster is flawed. Last night, he again bemoaned the absence of a true backup point guard, especially on a night when Jamal Crawford and Nate Robinson played a combined 48minutes and combined for 13 points, eight turnovers, seven fouls and four assists. Robinson had a forgettable night as his last-second shot in the third quarter sailed over the backboard.

"Nate's not a point guard," Brown said. "Right now he's a highlight film. It's not fair to him. We didn't expect him to have to be our point guard.

"We're not the deepest team, especially in the backcourt. When Stephon went out (in the first quarter) with two fouls we had no answer."

Marbury was the Knicks' most effective player with 21points, eight assists and five rebounds. But he also committed a team-high six turnovers. Marbury said one of the referees admitted to making a bad call when he charged the Knicks' guard with an offensive foul with 4:20remaining in the first quarter and the Bobcats leading 15-13.

But it's a bit of stretch to say that call was much of a factor. When Marbury returned with 10:59 remaining in the first half, the Knicks trailed by only six, 29-23. Also, Marbury played 36 minutes and wasn't called for his third foul until there was 2:23 left to play. Charlotte's best player, Emeka Okafor, was called for two fouls just 2 minutes and 50 seconds into the game. He played 29 minutes and put up 19 points and 11 rebounds.

Coincidentally, Brown praised Charlotte point guard Brevin Knight for making "great decisions." According to Brown, Knight's dribble penetration, particularly on pick-and-rolls, created open shots for his teammates. Kareem Rush, who finished with 22points, drilled three open three-pointers in the first half. In the second half, Gerald Wallace hit five threes and finished with 24 points. The Knicks didn't make a three-pointer until the fourth quarter.

Referring to the mental mistakes his team makes on both ends of the court, Brown said: "I get tired of hearing 'my fault', 'my bad.' (Charlotte) came off pick and rolls real aggressively and got it to guys quickly. We don't come off hard except in transition. Then when we get behind we try to catch up on one possession.

"I told them, when somebody is making shots you got to grind it out and take care of the ball and rebound. We haven't figured it out yet."
 

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