The 2015 Cleveland Indians

[Huber.]

 

[BimboColesHair]

Despite the slight differences in WAR, I'm still inclined to give the award to Correa.

Lindor has made himself one hell of a case, to be sure.

I still do value the success of the team in some respects, and the fact Correa has been their 3 hitter for the majority of the year and provided the impact he has is the only advantage IMO.

My issue with comparing team success, especially with mid season call ups, is that it doesn't always correlate to the individual players actual effects on the team record.

For example:

Indians record before Lindor: 28-33 (45.9%)
After Lindor: 40-37 (51.9%)

Astros record before Correa: 34-24 (58.6%)
After Correa: 42-40 (51.2%)

Twins before Sano: 41-37 (52.5%)
After Sano: 31-30 (50.8%)

So the only player who has made the team better on their arrival, going off of team success with that player on the actual team, is Lindor. Now, obviously there is more to it than that, but if team success matters, shouldn't this be considered?

And that goes back to this belief I have, which may be biased...there is no correlation between the Astros playing well because Correa is playing well, or the Twins playing well because Sano is playing well this year...but it is pretty apparent that the Indians are playing better because Lindor is playing better.

 

[MoFlo]

View: https://twitter.com/MLBastian/status/642443722014130176

 

[macbdog]

Well, that settles it- the defensive metrics show unequivocally that Lonnie Chisenhall was a good defensive 3b. Time to move him back since Geo isn't hitting.

 

[EdMonix11]

Well, that settles it- the defensive metrics show unequivocally that Lonnie Chisenhall was a good defensive 3b. Time to move him back since Geo isn't hitting.

Because Yandy is knocking on the door too....

 

[MoFlo]

View: https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/643790623326240768

 

[EdMonix11]

FWIW, the Angels have begun interviewing candidates for their open GM position. One of their first interviewees was Ross Atkins, the Indians VP of Player Personnel.

 

[MoFlo]

View: https://twitter.com/MLBastian/status/643884246226960385

 

[MoFlo]

For all the hate Santana gets:

View: https://twitter.com/AugustF_MLB/status/645028273697624064

 

[Huber.]

For all the hate Santana gets:

View: https://twitter.com/AugustF_MLB/status/645028273697624064

Put them together and what have you got?

bibbidi-bobbidi-boo

 

[BimboColesHair]

For all the hate Santana gets:

View: https://twitter.com/AugustF_MLB/status/645028273697624064

Yeah, but...batting average...

His worst year as a professional and he is still a 2 WAR player, producing at an above average rate offensively...there are players who can't be a 2 WAR, 110+ wRC+ player during their best season, and we're getting that from him at his worst.

 

[buckeyefan]

How the heck does Santana have 11 steals? We might have a Lofton on our hands. I wonder if they thought about playing him at center....

 

[MoFlo]

Put them together and what have you got?

One of 5 players in the majors who has 15 HR, 70 RBI, 70 BB, and 10 SB? (Trout, Goldschmidt, Votto, Rizzo)

 

[Frank Stallone]

I don't like our chances at all. We need a sweep, realistically. Also need the Angels to take 2 out of 3.

Have my concerns with the Royals series. They really need to finish 11-2 to 9-4 to get in.

 

[macbdog]

It just isn't happening. Team has gained one game in the last 20 days- they aren't gaining 4 in 12. To rattle off a streak, they need their Cy Young winner on his game and he isn't, they need Bauer on his game and he isn't, and they need Gomes bat on its game and it isn't. Oh well. They gave it a solid shot at the end.