kosis
Creeping like Sharia
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Well I'm not lying or twisting anything. I merely posted verses from the Quran itself.
Well let's see... you posted incomplete verses to project messages that were not there. So either you are truly clueless as to what the actual verses are in completion and context and just copied the first random thing you saw, or you edited them to fit your liking.
It also seems like the passages you posted that proceed the verses I quoted don't really say anything in regards to the violent rhetoric spewed just before it.
Am I missing something? I don't understand the context. To the ignorant, like myself, it looks like an ultimatum. "If you don't do this or you don't believe this, then beware. If you come around to my way of thinking, then we're cool."
This doesn't make any sense to me. I thought it was pretty clear that the verses (in completion) that I quoted for you were clear in illustrating that the violence was in regards to enemies of Islam oppressing and attacking Muslims first. It explicitely says not to fight when the enemy is not fighting. Not to transgress. To stop oppression of faith. How is that not clear?
Not trying to incite, just curious because one doesn't have anything to do with the other unless you really try to twist things into some subjective view. If that's the case, why not just... not say anything like that at all in the first place? I'd like to see your explanation of each verse and it's following verbage to see where you're coming from.
I did post the context. It's there. If you're asking why the text even mentions war/violence at all, then I don't know what to tell you. You are well within your right to denounce or avoid anything that includes mention of violence. No problem with that whatsoever. But don't pretend that you turn to page 1 and find a declaration of war against non-believers.
I'd also like to point out that those were only 8 paragraphs of the 109 that I found. I'd like to see what you have to say about each one if you have the time. I'm always trying to learn.
And I'll point out that I started with your first quoted passage, clearly showed that it was edited, incomplete and out of context. Why I would walk you threw 100's of instances just to point out the same is puzzling to me. I didn't add my own language to explain the verses... I just posted them in their entirety. It's all there. You don't have to translate from Arabic. If you're eager to learn, as you claim, then maybe start with the source material?