The Kevin Love Safari™

[Igo2XS]

Re: The Kevin Love Safari™

How does that sell tickets in Minnesota?

I understand what is going on. The business side of the game, making money, has been ignored by most Cavaliers fans because Dan Gilbert has been willing to take a financial hit to rebuild and lose money short term. Taylor isn't in that position. It is obvious that they won't have the same optimism going into this year without Kevin Love, but they want to stop the bleeding. As Cavaliers fans who just gutted through four years of losing basketball, we are quick to tell them, "Life's a bitch sometimes, ain't it? Now give us your All Pro losers." Well, they need to play this thing out.

**I guess it's time for me to say, IMHO, Wiggins will be included. I've thought that for over a week. Minnesota overvalues him too much.

I agree, I think Flip is trying to market the exciting newcomers Wiggins and Lavine to come in and pair with Rubio and a Love replacement with a better track record in Young.

Following the theme (approaching the podium): "Hi my name is Al and I am ready to accept that Wiggins will be included" :chuckles:

I'm not quite there yet, but am inching by way to that podium. Still holding out hope that some of the reports that he hasn't been offered are true. I have to admit I would really like to see the team of Irving, Waiters / Wiggins, Lebron, Bennett, Varejao compete for at least half a season. I could see Wiggins in particular running around making cuts and defending the opposition's best wing, making life difficult for him.

I've been reluctant to want to include Wiggins in a deal, but I'm okay with it now. Maybe some of the shock of having LB back, still hasn't really sunk through to all us.

Of course a Wiggins and LB tandem would be awesome to watch, especially defensively, but this is not a rebuilding team anymore. Having Wiggins makes 100% sense if we didn't land LB.

Never would I do a Wiggins for Love trade if that were the case, but things are different. We are now a team that can compete for a title. Our front court is not good enough to win going forward. Not a title at least, and that needs fixed. Of course Kevin Love fixes that hole better than anyone else on the market.

You trade Wiggins for Love, but there are conditions involved. YOU DO NOT include draft picks, and take back contracts, unless we can pry away Dieng too.

Draft picks might not mean much to fans now, but these picks can still be trading assets that we can use in a separate deal, or picks that will be used to fill out depth going forward.

Just because we're in a win it all now mode, don't act like draft picks have no meaning. That's how bad organizations think.

If we are doing a Wiggins i deal, then Deing is who I want too. I don't think Minny is going to give him up though- too hard to find a big with his skills & upside. I think we're going to have to settle for a lesser type big like Henry Sims from Philly or others.

 

[gourimoko]

Re: The Kevin Love Safari™

I agree, I think Flip is trying to market the exciting newcomers Wiggins and Lavine to come in and pair with Rubio and a Love replacement with a better track record in Young blah blah blah blah blah

I fucking love your avatar bro!

 

[bigfoot5415]

Re: The Kevin Love Safari™

People- I'm worried. The Kevin Love Safari is going on 600 patients, and there hasn't been one bit of genuine news.

Even the Mother of All Safaris - The LeBron Safari - took multiple years to get to 600 pages. Where is the respect for what is sacred?

This thread was opened in 2012.

 

[csb669]

The sad thing is I wonder if everyone would still be so adamant about moving Waiters over Wiggins if Dion weren't such a knucklehead. The guy is immensely talented and obviously much further along in his development but is lacking maturity and seems like he can't get out of his own way.

 

[Igo2XS]

I've pretty much got comfortable already with the fact we will have to lose Wiggins. By some miracle we could hold on to him, that would be amazing, but I'm not holding my breath.

Now that we lose Wiggins, it would be nice to find another wing serviceable on defense, since LeBron is basically carrying that load all himself. Of course we couldn't have foreseen losing Wiggins, but this is where it would be nice to have drafted Cleanthony Early. Not a knock on Joe Harris, but we have plenty of shooters already (with Love coming in, and possibly adding Ray Allen).

So it would be cool to add Corey Brewer, but his salary is stretching it a bit. If we give up Wiggins, I would love to end up with Dieng and McDaniels back. One of them at the least. So something like we get Love, Dieng, and McDaniels. Wolves get Wiggins, Young, (unguaranteeds), and a pick or two. And 76ers get Bennett, Barea's expiring, and a 1st rounder (or Joe Harris if necessary).

That is pretty much the perfect trade in my eyes. Maybe there is a dark horse tshird team, but the third team isn't being brought in just to help satisfy the Wolves needs, but also a couple of our own after losing Wiggins and Bennett. Which is a big man and/or a defensive wing.

Possibly GR3??

 

[AuxiliaryPie]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cavs?src=hash">#Cavs</a> are working to land PF/C Arnett Moultrie from the 76ers in the 3-team deal</p>&mdash; Believeland Insider (@Believeland24x7) <a href="https://twitter.com/Believeland24x7/statuses/494557619596832768">July 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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whatever, its a Safari

 

[Igo2XS]

I have two guesses for next off-season:

1. We use the MLE on a defensive wing who can guard the two and three.

2. We flip Haywood's contract and some assets for a big man. Maybe Larry Sanders? It's a risk, but Sanders next to Love would be ridiculous.

Hey Griff: Dan Gilbert here.. Loving that team, but is that our payroll or the national debt?

 

[Randolphkeys]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cavs?src=hash">#Cavs</a> are working to land PF/C Arnett Moultrie from the 76ers in the 3-team deal</p>— Believeland Insider (@Believeland24x7) <a href="https://twitter.com/Believeland24x7/statuses/494557619596832768">July 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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whatever, its a Safari

Plenty of potential, constantly hurt for two straight years. Bleh, I hope this is a wild guess.

 

[DawgPoundMBA]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cavs?src=hash">#Cavs</a> are working to land PF/C Arnett Moultrie from the 76ers in the 3-team deal</p>— Believeland Insider (@Believeland24x7) <a href="https://twitter.com/Believeland24x7/statuses/494557619596832768">July 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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whatever, its a Safari

Trying to get a guy that didn't play much coming off an injury and drug suspension with minimal stats?

 

[AuxiliaryPie]

Plenty of potential, constantly hurt for two straight years. Bleh, I hope this is a wild guess.

and he has served a 5 game drug suspension..sweet! a PER of 6.7 too

 

[CavsFan87]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Weather got Toronto feeling like Portland- either cold or raining ..</p>&mdash; Anthony Bennett (@AnthonyBennett) <a href="https://twitter.com/AnthonyBennett/statuses/494562917170544640">July 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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There must be some kind of code within this tweet, implying that a trade for Love is complete..

Who wants to take the first crack at it?

 

[Jack Brickman]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Weather got Toronto feeling like Portland- either cold or raining ..</p>— Anthony Bennett (@AnthonyBennett) <a href="https://twitter.com/AnthonyBennett/statuses/494562917170544640">July 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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There must be some kind of code within this tweet, implying that a trade for Love is complete..

Who wants to take the first crack at it?

Obviously Love was a red herring and we're trading for LaMarcus Aldridge.

 

[Snarly]

Re: The Kevin Love Safari™

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Weather got Toronto feeling like Portland- either cold or raining ..</p>— Anthony Bennett (@AnthonyBennett) <a href="https://twitter.com/AnthonyBennett/statuses/494562917170544640">July 30, 2014</a></blockquote>
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There must be some kind of code within this tweet, implying that a trade for Love is complete..

Who wants to take the first crack at it?

ME ME ME! He is saying he is not headed to the west coast where Love is from after his contract is up. So basically he would stay in Minny and insisting Love will stay with Cavsl as well :gap: AmIdoingItRight?

 

[not1not2not3]

Re: The Kevin Love Safari™

Is he bashing hipsters in Portland? He really wont like it here then.

 

[Igo2XS]

Re: The Kevin Love Safari™

I fucking love your avatar bro!

Thank you, thank you verry muuch (said in a Elvis Presley voice).