The Official Game of Thrones [A Song of Ice and Fire] Thread (includes spoilers)

[Rich]

So here's a fun question: Is there a way the show can end, or things it can do, that will cause you to not read the books, because you know that same thing will happen in them?

For w/e reason, too. Maybe its a character you love that dies, or an ending you just despise, or even an ending you very much like, but you feel you don't need to read about it again?

 

[Rich]

Just re-reading some stuff I'm again upset that A) The show has fucked Euron and B) George won't finish.

Moqorro: ""Only their shadows, One most of all. A tall and twisted thing with one black eye and ten long arms, sailing on a sea of blood"

One most of all. Aka the primary antagonist. And.....all I'm gonna get in the show is a some sidekick to Cersei.

Really pisses me off.

Targaryen bitch goes to Valyria and returns with a wounded dragon and snakes crawling out of her.

Euron goes and he returns with Valyrian Steel Armor and a Magic Horn.

ANd all I'm gonna get is Cersei's sidekick Euron. FML George.

 

[Stark]

Just re-reading some stuff I'm again upset that A) The show has fucked Euron and B) George won't finish.

Moqorro: ""Only their shadows, One most of all. A tall and twisted thing with one black eye and ten long arms, sailing on a sea of blood"

One most of all. Aka the primary antagonist. And.....all I'm gonna get in the show is a some sidekick to Cersei.

Really pisses me off.

Targaryen bitch goes to Valyria and returns with a wounded dragon and snakes crawling out of her.

Euron goes and he returns with Valyrian Steel Armor and a Magic Horn.

ANd all I'm gonna get is Cersei's sidekick Euron. FML George.

Too bad we weren't able to stretch out 10+ full fledged seasons of the show to give more time for Euron. I think he might be the greatest casualty in all of this.

To answer your above question: I think any ending where Jon and Dany live happily ever after on the throne together would suck major ass and go against everything the story has stood for up until this point. They both can't live and win, but I don't think they will anyways.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

At this point, we still don't know what happens with Euron. While we know what Cersei says he is supposed to do, we don't know if he'll actually do it, or if he's got other plans of his own.

 

[Rich]

At this point, we still don't know what happens with Euron. While we know what Cersei says he is supposed to do, we don't know if he'll actually do it, or if he's got other plans of his own.

Yea I just...I have LITTLE hope.

No horn. No Valyrian Armor. No fucking eye patch over some type of evil eye.

I'd say the odds of him becoming a super magic-wielding, maniacal, suicidal badass are not good.

It makes you wonder why they even brought him in the show? Other than, I guess, it's ultimately how Theon redeems himself fully in the show and books, I assume? I can see that. Theon slaying Euron in both mediums.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Yea I just...I have LITTLE hope.

No horn. No Valyrian Armor. No fucking eye patch over some type of evil eye.

I'd say the odds of him becoming a super magic-wielding, maniacal, suicidal badass are not good.

It makes you wonder why they even brought him in the show? Other than, I guess, it's ultimately how Theon redeems himself fully in the show and books, I assume? I can see that. Theon slaying Euron in both mediums.

Even if they make him the big bad at the end, it's gonna feel cheap because they've done such a piss poor job of making him an interesting character thus far. He's just kind of there and a dick.

 

[Jack Brickman]

How different might have the Battle of the Bastards gone on the show if Rickon knew how to run diagonally? Like, literally anything but running in a perfect straight line.

 

[JDailey23]

How different might have the Battle of the Bastards gone on the show if Rickon knew how to run diagonally? Like, literally anything but running in a perfect straight line.

Bothers me still. Like, c’mon man.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Bothers me still. Like, c’mon man.

Yeah I threw it on tonight to kill some time until 9:00 and it's hilarious how he just runs perfectly straight. Dude, just wait until he shoots the arrow and then just run in a random direction.

It's strange because, from a tactical standpoint, this battle is fucking stupid. But from a visual perspective, they did an amazing job with it, and I love how visceral it is when the horse charges meet each other. Feels like what it might actually have been like to be in the middle of two cavalry charges.

But man...Ramsay abandoned an impregnable castle and Jon just fucked up right and left.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Apparently Martin turned down a cameo in the final season of Game of Thrones to focus on Winds of Winter. Nice to hear he's got his fucking priorities straight for once.

 

[Rich]

So I've talked about this before a little.

The White Walkers aren't ageless. They take baby boys, and those baby boys then grow up to be adult white walkers.

So what does this mean? Did they only start to return BECAUSE of Craster? Where were they the last umpteen thousand years? Who the fuck raises the baby white walkers?

And why have we seen zero white walker females?

 

[Jack Brickman]

And why have we seen zero white walker females?

Obviously because they only take baby boys.

They don't reproduce sexually. They turn humans into their species.

 

[Rich]

Obviously because they only take baby boys.

They don't reproduce sexually. They turn humans into their species.

But WHY do they only take baby boys? Why have they turned zero women anywhere, as far as we've seen, into a white walker?

I'll also say..if they grow old and die (and they apparently do..although I guess they could be like Elves..that magically grow up but then stop aging??), and they have a language and some sort of society...are we SURE they can't sexually reproduce too?

I guess I should just allow that they can be like Elves in middle-earth. Where we just accept the fact that they grow up and mature but then don't age. No rhyme or reason, it just is.

 

[Jack Brickman]

But WHY do they only take baby boys? Why have they turned zero women anywhere, as far as we've seen, into a white walker?

I'll also say..if they grow old and die (and they apparently do..although I guess they could be like Elves..that magically grow up but then stop aging??), and they have a language and some sort of society...are we SURE they can't sexually reproduce too?

Based on the show, I think there are a limited number of white walkers. I think they are basically like a ruling council. If one dies, they replace him.

Maybe I'm wrong, but the show only ever shows like seven of the motherfuckers, and that is probably significant.

 

[Rich]

Based on the show, I think there are a limited number of white walkers. I think they are basically like a ruling council. If one dies, they replace him.

Maybe I'm wrong, but the show only ever shows like seven of the motherfuckers, and that is probably significant.

That's a thought. But I mean...don't the books tell us he gives EVERY baby boy to the walkers? And the sick fuck has to have a decent amount of them.

And fwiw the most we see at one time is 12 + the Night King. Who, I'm just gonna say, is different from the others. He's special.

I guess I should also just allow that maybe the baby white walkers grow up exponentially fast too. I mean...why not? It doesn't have to be logical if it's magical, I guess.