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Expect Cavs GM to stay the course
Though trading Gooden, Snow could help long term
By Brian Windhorst
Danny Ferry and Mike Brown are process people.
They believe in staying the course, devising a plan and sticking to it during thick and thin. It's the Spurs' way. And they're trying to make it the Cavaliers' way.
With Larry Hughes out with an injury for two months and a horde of road games upcoming, there's a chance the Cavs could be in for a slight market correction after a successful first 30 games. The reaction from the fan base might be to push for some sort of trade.
While it appears there's a deal for Ferry to make before the February deadline, he will not snap to any decisions, even if it could mean extra losses.
For example, don't expect anything before the Cavs give a hard look at just what they have in Anderson Varejao, who is expected back this week. And if/when Ferry does make a deal, it won't be for a stop-gap, at least, not if he sticks to his persona and GM upbringing.
When Ferry does get serious, league insiders suggest he has two main assets he'd like to move and has been in preliminary discussions about -- Drew Gooden and Eric Snow.
``Gooden is a good player, but he's a square peg in a round hole with Mike Brown,'' said one league executive. ``He'll never be the kind of player that fits with what he wants.''
That's in reference to Gooden's defensive shortcomings, which Brown struggles to deal with even when Gooden's energy flow is helping the Cavs on the scoreboard.
A classic example came last week in Milwaukee. Gooden kept the Cavs in the game in the first half by making seven consecutive shots. He made 8-of-10 field goals and had eight rebounds in the game, but didn't see the floor in the fourth quarter, which is becoming a more common sight.
Because Gooden is in the last year of his deal and he's a quality big man, he's very tradeable.
Snow has been steady at point guard, but the team's ownership hates his contract, which still has three seasons and $20 million left after this year. Two league sources suggest Ferry has been gauging Snow's value around the league recently, though other teams are wary of his contract, of course.
Despite that, it seems there is more than one team that would be willing to take Snow if a trade also could net them Gooden. In return, the Cavs would be looking for a starter-quality point guard, perhaps a veteran short-term defensive-minded swingman and either a prospect or a draft pick.
There won't be rumormongering here, but there are a few teams that have such matching assets.
LeBron & ESPN
LeBron James is on the cover of ESPN the Magazine this week, which is a story in itself. The Disney-owned publication did a story on James and his interest in the new Disney picture Glory Road about the Texas Western basketball team that broke color barriers in the NCAA. James is a basketball history buff, which the story helps show.
For the past three years, James had refused to cooperate with ESPN the Magazine on any project. He was angry over a story the magazine did when he was a senior in high school that contained what he thought was an unflattering portrayal of his mother, Gloria. As a result, he wouldn't agree to private interviews or photo shoots with the mag.
During his rookie year, the publication sent a reporter to track him for much of the year with the potential of it turning it into a book. James chose not to get involved and the project died. As part of his and his new management team's strategy of opening himself up and revealing more of his personality to the media, he's had a change of heart. It's also the motivation for his new Nike series of commercials and his appearance with his mother and girlfriend on Oprah Winfrey's show.
Dribbles
• Some have suggested the Cavs try to sign Latrell Sprewell to plug the gap left by Hughes. This is highly unlikely. First, Sprewell seems to be holding out for significant money, and the Cavs are over the salary cap. Second, Ferry doesn't appear to have much interest in Sprewell, failing to even contact his agent last summer when the Cavs had nearly $30 million in cap space.
• According to team insiders, the Cavs' deal with Granger-based MTD Corp. to have its Cub Cadet line be the presenting sponsor of all home games is worth about $1.5 million per season.
• Thursday the Cavs looked flat in losing on the second night of a back-to-back to the Houston Rockets. Friday, the Rockets were flat in losing their second night of a back-to-back in Toronto. The residue left after playing back-to-backs has long been an issue in the NBA. Recently, Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban did a study with the Elias Sports Bureau and computed that, on average, a team is 3.5 points worse in scoring differential on the second night of back-to-backs than when they haven't played the night before. The Cavs are 2-5 on the second nights this season. Here's the Cavs' records in such games over the past four years: 2001-02: 6-17; '02-03: 5-19; '03-04: 8-12; '04-05: 6-14.
In the past five seasons, the top three teams in these games are Cuban's Mavericks (53-27), the Detroit Pistons (57-44) and the San Antonio Spurs (54-28). Not surprising.
• Mengke Bateer, a center who was in training camp with the Cavs, has set a Chinese Basketball Association record. He was fined 24,000 yuan, about $3,000, for arguing with a referee on Dec. 28. It is the steepest fine in league history. Still, he's considered a front-runner for the league's Most Valuable Player award.
 
I read that...was gonna post it, but Im too lazy to post articles.

Very discouraging reading that article.
 
Why doesn't the league make a better effort to minimize back to backs. They can't get rid of them all, but there are times we sit 3 days, play a team that sat 2, then play again the next night. Why not bump that first game up a day?
 
Windhorst seems to be convinced that the Cavs will make a trade. I'm not so sure myself. I wouldn't do anything unless I was totally convinced it would improve the Cavs for the long term.
I wouldn't mind dumping Snow's contract but he is needed now since the Cavs are weak at PG. They would have to get a PG back.
Despite Gooden's occasional defensive lapses, he is a talented PF who's still young and has made a major contribution this year. I wouldn't be so quick to just throw him away in any deal.
I still think it might be more likely that a trade involving Gooden would happen this offseason than during the season.
 
• Some have suggested the Cavs try to sign Latrell Sprewell to plug the gap left by Hughes. This is highly unlikely. First, Sprewell seems to be holding out for significant money, and the Cavs are over the salary cap. Second, Ferry doesn't appear to have much interest in Sprewell, failing to even contact his agent last summer when the Cavs had nearly $30 million in cap space.

:thumbdown:

Who on Earth is out there that can fill that hole until Larry comes back??

:dunno:
 
I don't think Windhorst is assuming a trade, in fact he goes a long way to say that Ferry and Brown won't do anything quickly.

I think it would be interesting to see different players reaction to back to backs and road games. Z says he has trouble sleeping in hotels (What 7'3 guys would not have that problem?). I also remember Gooden talking about how the routine of the Q helps him focus for the game..
 
Spreewell may end up retiring anyway

LOUNGING LATRELL: Rick Brunson doubts whether Latrell Sprewell will play again. Brunson spoke to his former Knicks teammate last week and said that Sprewell is enjoying retirement. "He was never a guy that grew up loving basketball the way a lot of guys do," said Brunson, who is on the SuperSonics' inactive list. "If he has a chance to play for a contender he might come back, but I don't think that will happen until late February or early March."

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/story/381214p-323697c.html
 
eliminate back to backs? think that through, man. it was just a few years ago that the nba would routinely schedule games on three consecutive nights, in three different cities. the current schedule is child's play, by comparison.

and it was very routine to play a saturday night game in one city, followed by a noon game the following afternoon - two games in less than 24 hours.

they are able to ease up on the schedule because the league has gained in popularity, and they have stretched out the season, but they still try to cram as many games into the Fri-Sat-Sun slots as possible. it would be very difficult to eliminate back to backs.
 
It's not very hard to play back to back if you ask me.

Esp in the NBA, they dont even try on defense so it's not like they are tired. College players would have an arguement, not NBA.
 
not to mention that they are treated like gods. all the treatment they get as well as all of the money. :thumbdown
 
i have thought from the end of last season that Gooden wouldn't be a Cavalier after this seasons trade deadline. they are not going to resign him so they might as well see if they can get anything of value for him, which they should because of his expiring contract.

as for Snow if it were up to me he would be gone in a second, that is if they can find away to plug the huge hole at PG.
 
Gooden is one of the few players who plays hard in nearly every game: we're going to miss that if he is gone
 
I dont think we'll notice a significant dropoff from a combination of Gooden, Marshall and Henderson to a Marshall Varejao and Henderson.
 
Karma said:
I dont think we'll notice a significant dropoff from a combination of Gooden, Marshall and Henderson to a Marshall Varejao and Henderson.
Compare that to actually playing Gooden and Varejao together and getting rid of Henderson. Two high energy guys eating up boards is exactly what this team needs at times. Marshall play at times like molasses on D and falls in love with the 3. We need the ability to create mismatches and dictate the style of play, with Gooden AND AV I think we can do that

A rotation to me of Z, Marhsall, Gooden, and AV seems a lot better then Z, Marshall, AV, and Henderson
 
Pioneer10 said:
Compare that to actually playing Gooden and Varejao together and getting rid of Henderson. Two high energy guys eating up boards is exactly what this team needs at times. Marshall play at times like molasses on D and falls in love with the 3. We need the ability to create mismatches and dictate the style of play, with Gooden AND AV I think we can do that

A rotation to me of Z, Marhsall, Gooden, and AV seems a lot better then Z, Marshall, AV, and Henderson
I understand, but you have to remember when you drop Drew off, we are receiving something in return. My point was that we have good depth at power forward, and losing Drew would have an effect on the team like what is occuring with Larry out.

As for Marshall and shooting too many 3 balls, this is something that the coaching staff can surely change. Obviously Marshall feels comfortable out there, but he needs to mix it up inside as well, which comes down to the coach running sets with him in the post or there abouts.
 

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