Tristan Thompson: Initial Thoughts

[JAY1977]

If Kanter was there I think we would have taken him. Then if TT was still on the board when Washington or Charlotte were picking, I think we'd give them a call and asked if they wanted to swap their two picks for Enes.

If we had pulled that off, I think there's a lot less grumbling.

Heck, following that pipe dream to its ultimate fantasy we might have ended up with Jonas AND Tristan ... but gee, go figure ... the mock draft gurus who were expecting Utah to take a PG, or that Jonas might slip all the way to 10 due to his buyout situation ... blew it.

That was the supposed plan that I heard rumored as well. That would have been awesome but the other teams most likely did not want the CAVS to essentially dominate the draft.

 

[QuadrupleDouble]

I think eventually the protection wears off no matter what doesn't it?

It might be a while, but eventually we're getting that pick

 

[Snowblind]

I think eventually the protection wears off no matter what doesn't it?

It might be a while, but eventually we're getting that pick

Yeah, but I think its going to be a 2nd rounder if we have to wait til 2017.

 

[QuadrupleDouble]

I might be wrong, but I just thought at some point it goes completely unprotected.

meaning it doesn't turn in to a second, but whatever it is that year, we get it even if it's number one overall. My guess is we will get it before then because they'll pick after the protected slots in one of the years.

 

[Bux42]

I might be wrong, but I just thought at some point it goes completely unprotected.

meaning it doesn't turn in to a second, but whatever it is that year, we get it even if it's number one overall. My guess is we will get it before then because they'll pick after the protected slots in one of the years.

No, the only improvement to the protection over the next 4 years is that it goes from full lottery to top 12 protected. If they are still in the bottom 12 by 2017 then all we get is their 2nd rounder that year. Completely worthless basically.

 

[BuddyCowley]

No, the only improvement to the protection over the next 4 years is that it goes from full lottery to top 12 protected. If they are still in the bottom 12 by 2017 then all we get is their 2nd rounder that year. Completely worthless basically.

Well, if that scenario happens, doesn't that probably mean that JJ Hickson turned out to be a complete bust and we flipped him for a different player and a pick?

If JJ doesn't amount to much more than someone like Stromile Swift or Hakim Warrick, isn't that trade a decent one?

 

[tedginnjr]

The only issue I see here is saying that they're "likely" to never get the pick.

In reality, it'd be a pretty incredible streak of failure by Sacramento for us to not get the pick. Possible? I suppose. Likely? Come on now....

MYoung hasn't backed up a thing he's said in a good month or so... a lot of what he says have a lot of truth... this statement, baseless and uninformed.

 

[Douglar]

No, the only improvement to the protection over the next 4 years is that it goes from full lottery to top 12 protected. If they are still in the bottom 12 by 2017 then all we get is their 2nd rounder that year. Completely worthless basically.

There is no need to get this stuff wrong anymore since we have this thread-- http://realcavsfans.com/showthread.php?37365-Cavaliers-Future-Draft-Picks-Owed

The Kings pick is protected like this--
2012 top-14 protected
2013 top-13 protected
2014 top-12 protected
2015 top-10 protected
2016 top-10 protected
2017 top-10 protected
If the Cavs don't get the first round pick by 2017, they get a 31-40 pick in the 2017 draft.

Pretty much a 99.99% chance that the Cavs get the first round pick.

Id even go as far as to say that it seems pretty likely that the Cavs get a pick in the 12-16 range between 2013 & 2015 if they keep the pick. The Cavs could trade the pick whenever they feel like.

 

[Tornicade]

What that means if the kings and cavs make the playoffs in 2014-16 not only will the cavs most likely be good but they will be getting a high pick for a contender if things go well. thats not a bad deal at all.

and if we are really desperate for a first round pick in 2017 and sacremnto doesnt have a single year with a top 20 record in basketball then it doesnt really matter does it.

 

[Scholar]

What that means if the kings and cavs make the playoffs in 2014-16 not only will the cavs most likely be good but they will be getting a high pick for a contender if things go well. thats not a bad deal at all.

There is actually a scenario no one is even considering. It is possible we end up with their 2013 pick and the 2 year rule becomes part of the next CBA affecting the upcoming draft and pushing back most of the players everyone is drooling over to 2013. In that situation, we'd have a late lottery pick to work with in addition to ours and Miami's. That would be really terrible wouldn't it?

 

[Green Lantern]

Trade down from where? The 32nd pick? If we pick Kanter 4, that is it. No more 1st rounders.

My mistake..not tradedown but a trade to aquire TT.Perhaps thats where JJ would have come in at that time.

 

[caf]

I would hope it's 4 or 5 too, but who do you think is going to be the 1st scapegoat if things aren't looking up midway thru the 3rd year? Scott or Grant?

I know it will depend on exactly why things aren't improving. But if it looks like it is because we made some bad choices in drafting or trading, I would have to say Grant.

You should ask Kurt Rambis and David Kahn this exact same question.