Tristan Thompson

[kookoo]

And, again, we were really good with Tristan on the floor in the 4th quarters of close games. Why change what had already been working so well, and ended up working very well for the entire season? I get questioning it during the season, but it fucking worked, and worked well. So what is the main issue here?

And stop fucking comparing them with me. I didn't even bring up Timo, save for the stats I posted just for a starting point. I didn't want to talk about Timo, this is the Tristan thread, not the Tristan vs Timo thread. Someone asked a question, I posted their stats, then literally said why the fuck are we comparing them in the same post. Stop comparing them. This isn't a one or the other, or a one is better than the other situation.

Not always. The thing that always got me was that Blatt doesn't seem to be a situational coach. He only does things differently if he has to (injury based changes to his game plan). When a player like Vucivic is going off on you in the 4th, you need Mozgov on him, not Tristan. I really don't care who finishes the game as long as that player puts us in the best position to win, and Tristan isn't always that answer.

 

[kookoo]

Bleacher Report is claiming that a source says TT will only play for the Cavs beyond this upcoming season if they give him a longterm max deal for this season.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...tm_campaign=web-des-art-top-19?is_shared=true

If this is true, not sure it's good negotiating on TT's part unless he truly wants to leave.

They are claiming Toronto will pay TT the max , which is possible maybe even more likely now that they got Jonas V. on a decent deal.

That said, I don't see LeBron leaving if we lose TT. What can LeBron really say? He's leaving the Cavs because we refused to max out a role player?

It seems like money is a major motivation for Tristan right now. I have a feeling he's not going to be as good when he gets paid. And if we do pay him what he wants, we're stuck with him for the entire length of his contract, because why the hell would someone pay a bench player max?

 

[supermario21]

Ric Bucher guys!! I just don't buy it, and if it's true, let him go. That the Raptors would pay him bucket-loads of money more than Valanciunas makes zero sense...

 

[godfather]

I still can't comprehend why Blatt always played TT over Mozgov at the end of games.

This has been brought up time, and time again. It has nothing to do with TT vs Mozgov. It's about preferences.

Blatt likes to go small in the fourth, and switch everything pick-and-roll wise. Tristan is the best big man on the team capable of doing that.

This doesn't mean Tristan is our best big. This got skewed a lot during the season, where people mistakenly thought that meant he was.

Preferences of style, not the player himself.

 

[BigErieCavsFan]

This has been brought up time, and time again. It has nothing to do with TT vs Mozgov. It's about preferences.

Blatt likes to go small in the fourth, and switch everything pick-and-roll wise. Tristan is the best big man on the team capable of doing that.

This doesn't mean Tristan is our best big. This got skewed a lot during the season, where people mistakenly thought that meant he was.

Preferences of style, not the player himself.

I agree, but the real question is what style wins more?

 

[godfather]

I agree, but the real question is what style wins more?

I didn't always agree with it, but it did work pretty nice defensively. We were able to put LB at the 4, be super quick with our switches, while still getting good floor spacing on offense.

I definitely understand why Tristan would play a lot in the 4th. I just didn't always like phasing out Mozgov, and even Love at times.

But that's just the style Blatt preferred in the 4th though.

 

[MH32246]

I agree, but the real question is what style wins more?

Its according to who you are playing. The league overall seems to be moving to a PF who is basically a SF for match up purposes and to speed the game up and more PF seems to be playing the role as centers. If you have a guy playing the center position who shoots 3's or steps outside the paint or is in a lot of pick and rolls I would want TT on the court but if you have a traditional center you would want Mozgov.

 

[MH32246]

I didn't always agree with it, but it did work pretty nice defensively. We were able to put LB at the 4, be super quick with our switches, while still getting good floor spacing on offense.

I definitely understand why Tristan would play a lot in the 4th. I just didn't always like phasing out Mozgov, and even Love at times.

But that's just the style Blatt preferred in the 4th though.

Love had times during the season where he was just being abused one on one defensively by his man. His lateral quickness due to his back hampering him contributed to this some but overall he just needed to play with more effort on defense which he did later into the season. I think Blatt honestly some time is more so watching the game vs coaching and thinking of situations and line ups that he can bring in and over extends his players some.

 

[gourimoko]

Can't see Raps paying Jonas and Tristan to play the same position.

Either way, we're rapidly moving away from the reality of Tristan getting a reasonable long-term deal, even on a slight overpay.

Seems this will end with the QO.

 

[godfather]

If I'm Tristan, I would fire Rich Paul. People think he's being a good agent? It's one thing to want your client to get the most money, but another to be delusional.

All he's going to do is cost Tristan money. I don't believe for one second the Raptors really will offer him a max. I think Paul is trying to bluff the Cavs.

And if he takes the QO, I guarantee his next contract won't be in the ballpark of what we were willing to pay him.

Isn't it obvious Paul is using Tristan? He's trying to set a name for himself it sounds like, more so, than looking out for his client. Because if he can get a bench player a max contract, boy, wouldn't that look mighty impressive for Paul.

I almost feel bad for Tristan.

 

[Lee]

Can't see Raps paying Jonas and Tristan to play the same position.

Either way, we're rapidly moving away from the reality of Tristan getting a reasonable long-term deal, even on a slight overpay.

Seems this will end with the QO.

I dont agree.

I think we pay him 5/85 which is a bit more than slight over pay.

I see the latest news as Rich Paul's last attempt to squeeze every nickle out of the cavs.

 

[godfather]

If Tristan doesn't take the 85 million dollar contract, Rich Paul was a fail. I don't think he will make that on the market. I know some of you really believe he will. I don't care how high the cap is going up, I don't think he's getting that kind of money.

Don't believe it. Sorry.

And for argument sake, let's say some stupid team really is serious, and would give him that contract right now. We're talking a year from now.

I wouldn't guarantee they will feel the same in a year. We're not talking about a borderline all-star here.

Maybe Tristan regresses, or has an injury. A million things can go bad for him to hurt his value.

That's why he's an idiot, IMO, if he plays the market next year. It's a huge gamble, given we'd be willing to pay him higher than market value now.

I hope he does. I think it will work out great for us. I think we'd get him back much cheaper.

But if I'm Tristan, I take the money. Fuck Paul, he's on an ego trip.

 

[tsteele316]

I dont agree.

I think we pay him 5/85 which is a bit more than slight over pay.

I see the latest news as Rich Paul's last attempt to squeeze every nickle out of the cavs.

If the Cavs were actually offering 5/85, Thompson would have been inked a long time ago. There's a reason all of this puffery is going on, and it's not an attempt to nickle and dime the cavs.

 

[RedRain]

Bleacher Report is claiming that a source says TT will only play for the Cavs beyond this upcoming season if they give him a longterm max deal for this season.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...tm_campaign=web-des-art-top-19?is_shared=true

If this is true, not sure it's good negotiating on TT's part unless he truly wants to leave.

They are claiming Toronto will pay TT the max , which is possible maybe even more likely now that they got Jonas V. on a decent deal.

That said, I don't see LeBron leaving if we lose TT. What can LeBron really say? He's leaving the Cavs because we refused to max out a role player?

If that's true, QO him and let him go next season. If Toronto is truly crazy enough to spend 20% of their cap on an untradeable contract for a 9-8 role player for the next 5 years, let them. And if TT is crazy enough to leave a perennial title contender playing with 3 of the best players in the world to go to a team crazy enough to give Tristan Thompson a max contract, let him.

And I'm sufficiently confident in Casey's professionalism and sanity to believe he won't play ahead of JV, so he won't even be a starter there.

Griffin will have a year to find a replacement, and next year the big 3 will be even better. The future of this franchise does not hinge on TT staying or leaving.

 

[gourimoko]

I dont agree.

I think we pay him 5/85 which is a bit more than slight over pay.

I see the latest news as Rich Paul's last attempt to squeeze every nickle out of the cavs.

Either way, this is why you trade Thompson when you had the chance. Once he signs the QO, we can't trade him AFAIK.