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Smith>Quinn

Quinn has the pretty boy look down pat and is on the most popular college football team ever but lets be real.

Arm Strength: Smith > Quinn Not even close, he flicks his wrist and that thing sails 60 yards.

Feet: Smith > Quinn It's a runaway..get it?

Decision Making: Quinn > Smith This will improve over time for both, but you can work on this you cant work on your arm strength. He'll never out run or throw farther then Troy so this is his only real advantage.

If he had any mobility he wouldn't have gotten drilled by AJ about 10 times in the Fiesta bowl :chuckles:

Ginn won't get it, he scores a lot of his TD's off pitches kickoffs punt returns and when they put him under center. I doubt they give it to a guy who plays WR RB and QB..

Oklahoma lost their best three WR's Mark Bradley, Michael Clayton, and Travis Wilson the past few years, they lost their starting QB so the run game is sure to suffer. Hopefully this lets Adrian slide so the Browns can scoop em up :thumbup:
 
It would be really nice to see Smith AND Ginn both be finalist. Imagine how that helps recruiting?

Course, Smith actually winning the trophy would be even better. OSU going undefeated would certainly help his case, but seems unlikely. I guess we'll see.
 
Ginn has a chance but he'd have to return a couple kicks/punts to be considered along with getting the ball to the End-zone. Smith really has a chance but it would be a good season for him if he's a finalist.
 
Just listening to the Bucknuts Radio Hour, and Ted Ginn made a nice comment on the heisman hype and a rivalry between him and smith over who gets it:

"He's a senior, I'm playing for him this year. Hopefully we can help him win it this year, and then next year I'll come back and win it."
http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/508613.html

Not only is that a great team attitude, but most are predicting he'll go pro, so it's nice to hear him say that he'll come back. Let's hope it happens!

While we're on the subject of today's BRH, JT had some great quotes in his interview:

About how they are responding to being ranked #1:
"When you coach at Ohio State or play at Ohio State, whether you're ranked low or you're ranked high, the expectation is that you will win all your games. So that's always our goal."

This was funny, talking about his defensive players in camp:
"They're doing great, we've got competitive kids. Now we just have to get experienced kids."

Reporter: "Is there a point of pride in being named number 1?"
JT: "There is when you're number 1 at the end! At the beginning though, I don't know what it can do for you."
Reporter: "Well, it does put a target on your chest."
JT: "There's a target on our chest everytime we put on the silver helmets."

I could listen to this guy all day! :)
 
I made this and wear over at cavs.com.. Anybody is free to wear it if they want..

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Big suprise here, Smith has been named a captain (along with Datish, Patterson, and Pitcock):

http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/560925.html

I expect all 4 to have a pretty fantastic year. They were all great last year. The two P's should be destroying people on the inside of the line.
 
Um common guys I know you are all tOSU fans, but to just throw off Adrian Peterson who probably has a just as good of a chance as Quinn of winning the heisman, is pretty humerous. Im not saying that Troy Smith cant win the Heisman but common, Peterson rushed for 1900 yards as a freshman, and 1100 yards last year on one ankle, give the kid some props. Right now if i had to rank the heisman chase it would be Quinn/Peterson then Smith after a little bit of a drop. Sadly i think the only way the browns would end up with Peterson, though the ghost isnt doing bad in pre-season, is if they end up with one of the top 2 picks.
 
Humerous? Ummm, bob, where did you see anyone say Smith has a greater chance of winning it than ANYONE, other than cdt who actually didn't say it either, but implied it by saying Smith is better than Quinn, and that the Sooners lost some people. Don't say "come on guys", say "come on cdt". We may be homers, but we're not dumb.

Well, at least yours truly isn't. :)
 
Some talk about our beloved Heisman candidates:

Another player that Tressel is excited about is junior wide receiver Ted Ginn Jr. He has been one of the most explosive players in the college game the last two years, but this year he might take it to another level.

“I think he progresses every day and I think he’s a totally different receiver than he was as last year began,” Tressel said. “Again, because he’s had more experiences. He’s seen the things that people do. He understands what the people were doing to focus on Santonio Holmes and that’s why they were playing such and such and he’s very aware that some of that focus could be on him and he may be seeing some different things than he’s seen in the past and I think he understands the game. But there’s only one way to understand the game, that’s play it, and I think he’s coming along.”

Tressel is all about the team concept. But he doesn’t have a problem with the fact that OSU is running Heisman campaigns for Smith and Ginn.

“It’s part of the modern game, there’s no question about it,” Tressel said. “I think it’s part of the tremendous interest that has grown in the sport. It’s right now our ticket interest and that type of thing is unbelievable. The amount of interest in people watching on television and so forth is incredible, some of which is because they intimately get to know someone chasing records or someone being considered, so that’s not a bad thing. As long as it’s left within those confines. It really has nothing to do with the team and its goals, but we’d like to believe that the better the team does and moves towards their goals, then most certainly individuals’ goals perhaps could be attained as well. And if the team doesn’t do well, there won’t be a whole bunch of discussion of those individual awards and our guys are aware of that.”

There has been a lot of talk about how far Smith has come in terms of film study and reading defenses. Tressel calls the plays for the Buckeyes, but just how much freedom will he give Smith to call audibles at the line of scrimmage?

“Anytime it works, he can do it. He’s got total freedom,” Tressel said, eliciting laughter from reporters. “That’s why we always used to say with Craig (Krenzel). Between every series he’d say, ‘Get the play in sooner so I can change it. I need more time.’ We do a significant amount of checking from run to run, pass to pass, pass to run, some formational type things. You line up in a formation and the QB puts us in the best situation. We’ll have a significant amount of that.

“I think what we do have from an offensive standpoint is how guys demonstrate what they’re capable of doing, you just keep adding that to their repertoire. That’s what’s fun about watching a quarterback develop. You do the same with linebackers and secondary. The more they’ve shown what they can do and they can master, then the more is in their whole package. And we’d like to think that our package can grow, but only at the pace that the rest of the people can do it. You can’t lose sight of the fact that all 11 people have to do it.”

The Players’ View

Smith was asked the same question that was posed to Tressel: How much freedom will the Buckeyes’ senior quarterback have to call audibles at the line of scrimmage this season if he sees something he doesn’t like?

“I think I will have the right amount to do that if there is an adjustment there that needs to be made,” Smith said. “But the staff game plans so we won’t have to get into situations like that. I put all my trust into the staff to put us in situations and play calls that will pretty much be the right plays. Sometimes during a course of a game you’re going to have to make adjustments though and those adjustments will be made.”

Smith also commented on being named one of OSU’s captains for this season. It was a foregone conclusion, but it still feels good to him.

“Man, that’s like a dream come true,” Smith said. “There were a lot of people through the early stages of my career here and through the later stages of my career in high school that told me I would never be doing some of the things that I’m doing now. And this is a tremendous honor and it’s a very, very strong act of humility and pride and passion that I have for the guys here who selected me. For them to be able to look at my in my eyes and think that I would be a formidable leader to lead them this year says everything in the world. It speaks volumes.”
http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/562153.html
 
152 passes without a pick so far this season. Nice.

Just now Spiels on Spielman on Sports: "After this weekend, Troy Smith has moved to the front of the Hiesman race, at least in the poll I'm involved in."

I have no idea what "the poll I'm involved in" is suppose to mean, but I like the sound of it. Any one know what that means? Does Spiels have a hiesman vote? I know that all past winners get a vote, as well as a number of media personalities (which I believe rotate periodically).
 
Troy Smith is still the frontrunner..
 
cdt said:
Troy Smith is still the frontrunner..

I don't know about that.. He is defintely Top 3, but Adrian Petersons' performance last week, especially, and previous performances catapulted him to the top...
 
The way I look at it...they lost. Albeit a bad call they lost. They haven't faced competition like the 2nd ranked team. They aren't the number 1 team. We are..
 
Smith's final numbers today vs PSU probably didn't help his standings, but that touch down to Robiskie, man, if that wasn't Heisman-like play I don't know what is.

Remember the bad snap over his head that he caught over the shoulder? That was sweet too. Too bad it only led to an incomplete pass, or else that would of been a great highlight as well.

Smith has the lead according to ESPN by quite a bit.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/heisman06/index
If Smith really does have that big of a lead, it will be hard for him to lose it if OSU runs the table (hope, hope).

Edit: By the way, I was rewatching the Texas game as a warm up to the PSU game yesterday. Did anyone else notice how Herbstreit was pimping Smith every chance he had? Nice. That doesn't hurt his Heisman chances. I'm sure most of the voters watched that one, and that has to have some effect, even if just subliminoly.
 
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