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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=jones/060117


By Bomani Jones
Special to Page 2


LeBron James confessed to ESPN The Magazine that he doesn't think he's as good as Kobe Bryant. In fact, he said no one is as good as Kobe Bean because "The Mamba" has a killer instinct no one else has. When comparing himself with Bryant, LeBron said he doesn't have the desire to "just kill everybody."


Too bad LeBron -- and a handful of pundits -- don't realize that's a good thing.


After Cleveland's two-point loss to Portland Sunday, ESPN's B.J. Armstrong went so far as to say that LeBron might become a star, but not a superstar, based upon this revelation.



You know that Kobe is always putting it up with the game on the line.
Riiiiiight.


Anyone who doesn't think LeBron James is already a superstar doesn't have NBA League Pass. The opportunity to watch him play on a nightly basis is easily worth 200 bucks. There has never been anyone as good at his age and experience level. The nearest combination of youth, talent and performance to LeBron's in any sport is Doc Gooden from 1984 to '86, and LeBron does it all without a drippy, messy Jheri curl.


But there are people, including King James himself, who want him to be like Kobe. At this point, why in Hades would he want to be like that? Is he looking for tense relations with his teammates? Would he like to play on a team with talent comparable to the Cavaliers' but with a worse record, even though Cleveland has been without Larry Hughes for 20 percent of its games? Really, is the killer instinct that important?


For Kobe, it is. His killer instinct comes from his unshakable confidence. Few players have believed in their talent as much as Bryant, and he felt that way as a teenage rookie. He's as close as anyone could imagine to being unguardable, largely because he believes that to be the case. And considering how often he insists upon shooting through people instead of going around them -- and how effective he is when doing so -- he'd better walk around with brass in his tights.


But Kobe's problem is just what LeBron loves so much about Kobe -- the need to kill everybody. There's no one that wants the last shot of a game as much as Bryant, and there might not be anyone more likely to scare the bejeezus out of the opposition with the clock winding down.


Unfortunately, he wants the first shot as much as he wants the last. He's pretty enamored with the 28th shot, too, whether he's all alone or with a hand, or seven, in his face. But when you want to kill everybody, it's going to be that way.


And look what that way has gotten Kobe Bean. Remember that Shaq, not his attitude, got him those rings.


Talking about the killer instinct LeBron does or does not have obscures what makes him so great -- his understanding of the game. There's no question LeBron wants the last shot in games, and there's no question he is the man the Cavs look to for that shot. But the reason LeBron is who he is, a star so big I can hardly recall anyone referring to him by his last name, is that he's more concerned with the Cavs' taking the best shot, even if it doesn't roll off his fingers.


Just look at the game against the Trail Blazers. Down 88-87, LeBron drove to the right, drew a crowd and found Donyell Marshall wide open in the corner for a 3-pointer. That he saw the open man on the opposite side of the court was amazing, and no one would want to leave Marshall open in that situation. At this point, Marshall is in the league for no other reason than to make shots like those.


Passing to Marshall didn't show a lack of killer instinct. It made sense.


The idea of a killer instinct is tough to embrace because that quality is so hard to identify, and it is most frequently discussed by people who don't have it. We think Kobe has it. We know Chris Webber does not. Many said Karl Malone didn't have it, but the huge scar over one of Isiah Thomas' eyes says otherwise.


Where does that killer instinct come from? Malone's came from a dark place, one that made him the dirtiest player in the game this side of Ric Flair. Michael Jordan and Jerry West got theirs from an unhealthy hate for losing. Kobe's seems to originate from a palpable self-absorption, a trait that also happens to be the root of many of his professional and personal problems.



LeBron will dish it to the open man if that's the best play.
So where does -- or will -- LeBron's killer instinct come from? The man said it himself in ESPN The Mag.


"It's all about competing, about trying to be the best," he told Chris Broussard. "It's also important to me to make the team I'm on now the best."


Sometimes that means giving Donyell Marshall the chance to win the game with a 3, just like it meant Jordan had to give Bill Wennington the winning shot that night in 1995 when he dropped a double-nickel on the Knicks at Madison Square Garden. Or giving Steve Kerr the clinching shot in the '96 NBA Finals.


Those moves didn't make MJ a shrinking violet, nor could anyone say the same about Bron Bron. He's not running from the ball in the clutch, no matter what he plans to do with the orange. Although he has made some poor decisions in the clutch -- like passing to Eric Snow on the final possession of the Portland game -- he never looks afraid. LeBron seems perpetually concerned with giving Cleveland its best chance to win. It just so happens that the Cavs' best chance at victory doesn't always mean his taking a shot.


If the path to superstardom is so narrow no one else on the floor is worth considering, then LeBron is doomed. And superstardom ain't all it's cracked up to be.


When Jordan looked to do nothing but attack, he couldn't get past the conference finals. Using MJ's trials and errors -- and probably Kobe's -- as a reference, LeBron has been precocious in his ability to both score and help others score. Observers should be happy with that and watch as it translates into more victories.


And so should he.


Bomani Jones is a frequent contributor to Page 2. Tell him how you feel at bomani@bomanijones.com.
 
I disagree. Kobe is by far the best player in the league.

Lebron cant play a lick of D, Lebron cant put the game on his back. Lebron has some time before he is better than Kobe.
 
A Mac aka The Truth said:
I disagree. Kobe is by far the best player in the league.

Lebron cant play a lick of D, Lebron cant put the game on his back. Lebron has some time before he is better than Kobe.
Bomani Jones is a frequent contributor to Page 2. Tell him how you feel at bomani@bomanijones.com.

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lebron been playing pretty decent D, he could put his hands up alittle more but hes ok at it. also to say kobe IS BY FAR the best player right now is stupid, he might be the best but not by far. If he is th best which i disagree he would be bearly the best... lebron could have won that game aganist portland if he would have just taken the ball to the hoop him self, all the way there, hes strong and would have got in there easy... but kobe is good at scoring and good on def but thats it lebron has more of a all around game...
 
If the Lakers didn't have a guy to help out with scoring and do everything Kobe doesn't do while he is hoisting shots they wouldn't have a victory this season.

mvp=lamar odom not kobe..

Anyone can go out and torch someone and not worry about anything outside of scoring..tell a HEALTHY Tmac to score at will and he could easily have 50 points at the half, tell that to AI LeBron Arenas and Wade and you'll get similar results. Point being Kobe has 1 thing on his plate...score..so yeah remove Lamar Odom and what is Kobe but a better Quentin Richardson?
 
I'll say this, what has Kobe done since Shaq left town?
 
Scored a lot on a bad team, that's what. I personally find it funny the teammates Kobe's stuck with after running Shaq out of town. Kwame Brown, Odom, Laron Profit, Smush Parker...all underachievers who run the possibility of imploding at any time. I am sure the LA media will have fun with this McHale's Navy when the time comes. Good luck Captain Phil, with the player you formerly called "uncoachable." :neener:
 
Someone hide this thread please :eek:
 
So Kobe's team was up by 5 points with 35 seconds left and Kobe's team lost!

What a scrub. What a choker!

Sound familiar?
 
Tonight down the stretch, Kobe drives and kicks the ball to Odom for the 3. Odom hits the shot, everyone is happy. That pass is the same pass LeBron made the past two games and has been ripped for days.

Then 4.1 seconds left, the defense keys on Kobe who doesn't make the move quick enough, Odom is forced to take the game winning shot and misses. If that happens to LeBron he gets ripped for not wanting the ball bad enough.

Then overtime and Kobe misses shot after shot and the lakers lose.

If LeBron closes a game like that, he gets ripped on here about how he's no Kobe. And make the other mistakes the lakers made last night (giving them a wide open 3, shooting too soon in the shot clock, etc), and Mike Brown is being ripped as no Phil Jackson.

if you watched the game last night you saw Kobe get mad at Odom for taking that shot at the end of regulation.

I replayed the play on tivo frame by frame and what actually happened is Kobe had 2 guys on him and he waited too late to make his break to get the pass. By the time he was open, Odom was already committed to shoot. And even if he sees Kobe at that point, Kobe catches the pass at the 3 point line with 1.0 seconds left, facing away from the basket with his momentum carrying him further away still. If you think that one 3 LeBron shot the other day was a bad shot, it was an easy shot compared to what Kobe would have been forced to take had Odom passed him the ball.

The bottom line is Odom made the right decision on the play, he just missed the shot. If that happens on the cavs, leBron will say - we got a good look, the shot just didn't drop. Kobe instead is mad at Odom for taking the shot.

Then what happens in overtime. Nobody on the team wants to shoot the ball - they give it to Kobe and stand around watching him as the shot clock expires. Who's going to want to take that shot if Kobe's getting mad at Odom. Do you think guys like Kwame wants any part of that?

Contrast that with LeBron - he trusts Sasha to take the big shot last night because he has the better look. The problem is Sasha doesn't take the shot. I'm sure since then both LeBron and Mike Brown have gone to Sasha and told him to take that open 3 next time it's there.

Which guy is better for the long term success of the team? The guy who encourages his teammates to contribute or the guy who wants to do it all himself?
 
I believe Kobe Bryant is a better offensive player then LeBron. He is most definatly a better defender then LeBron as well.

But LeBron is alot tougher then Kobe will ever be. He is also a terrific play maker for a player his size. Kobe doesn't really look to set up plays for his teammates. LeBron wants to share the glory, that is why he passed the ball to Sasha.

If Sasha hit that shot, he would have been a hero that night. And he would have earned himself all the playing time he wanted. To bad for him, he paniced.
 
the stats say otherwise - the stats say LeBron is playing better both offensively and defensively.

Look at PER and opponent's PER in this list

http://www.82games.com/0506/rolandratings0506.htm

These are current through Wednesday night's games, so don't include Kobe's loss last night.
 
But LeBron is alot tougher then Kobe will ever be. He is also a terrific play maker for a player his size. Kobe doesn't really look to set up plays for his teammates. LeBron wants to share the glory, that is why he passed the ball to Sasha.
If Sasha hit that shot, he would have been a hero that night. And he would have earned himself all the playing time he wanted. To bad for him, he paniced.

Are you sure it was all Sasha's fault? It was LeBron's decision to pass the ball. I think it was a poor one. Piss-poor. Sasha had just missed 2 free throws. LeBron had a wide open look from the arc, or a chance to drive. Why didn't he take it? So he could pass on the glory? Lame. Pass on that extra assist, moreso, for the triple double. Or, he was choking himself from all those fingernails stuck in his throat...
 
You are talking out of your butt on this one...you are reaching.

One, nobody will rip Lebron for not demanding the ball. That is a farse...

Two, Kobe passed to Odom, their second best player, an NBA vet, Im pretty sure he was an All Star at least once, bottom line is Odom is a very good player.

Sasha is a bench warmer, hasnt played significant minutes all year, isn't looked upon to score.

Two TOTALLY different situations there.

Kobe has the Lakers about 2 games behind the Cavaliers record, in a much much much tougher conference on a much much much weaker team.

He has two Cavalier cast offs starting with him, and outside of Odom there really isnt a whole lot on that roster.

There is nothing you can show me to tell me that Lebron is doing better than Kobe, because he's not. Kobe takes the shots, defends the other teams best player every single game. Lebron isnt even required to play defense on this team and is the reason we have lost a couple games on this road trip.

Kobe is doing much more with much less than Lebron is. Lebron makes up for zero defense with his ability to get others involved and he also rebounds well...but lets face it...Lebron has a longgggggggggggggg way to go before he is on the same talent level as Kobe Bryant.
 
the conference record issue gets overblown.

The cavs are 7-10 vs the west (.418), the lakers are 9-13 vs the west (.409). We are doing better against the west than the lakers are. It'll be 8-10 after tonight.
 

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