Windhorst-WKNR

[Phills14]

Windhorst may seem a bit "subdued" on the Cavaliers ever since The Decision, but I have a funny feeling when we win a title finally, I'm going to see him in downtown Cleveland doing coke out of a stripper's ass crack as people douse hm in champagne.

That was my plan too!

 

[daytripper]

Nothing sparks discussion on RCF like a good old fashioned Windy debate.

I'm still personally a fan. I really do think he loves the Cavs and NE Ohio and am looking forward to hearing his comments throughout the season. With that said it did appear at times Windy was parroting Pat Riley's agenda with some of his articles. Last season for the Cavs was definitely not peaches and cream but it did seem Riley was intentionally trying to get into LeBron's ear via Windy(maybe I'm wrong..just a gut feeling). Yeah it's probably part of the gamesmanship and Riley has it down to a science. As they say don't kill the messenger as Windy was just doing his job. I'm guessing most of us didn't like the Cavs dirty laundry/negativity put out there by someone who has been a friend of RCF.

 

[AZCavs]

Look, I get that Windy has helped this site and he's looked upon fondly by many, but if you can't understand why he's flustered Cleveland fans recently then you're turning a deaf ear to a lot of the comments he's made in recent years.

It's not that he ragged on the Cavs for being bad, it's because he's either:

A) talking out of his ass at times

Or

B) Spreading info he received from bad sources

"Kyrie wants out of Cleveland"

"Kyrie and LeBron don't want to play together"

"LeBron going back to Cleveland a long shot"

"LeBron and Gilbert haven't even talked"

"LeBron still hasn't met Blatt"

I'm obviously paraphrasing, but you get the idea. These are ideas he had perpetuated that turned out to be completely false. THAT'S why some folks believe he's a "hater" and don't like him anymore.

 

[Chris]

Yeah, that whole Kyrie and LeBron thing is hysterical looking back on it. But I doubt Windy was just lying, I mean come on. He probably did hear that it just turned out not to be true.

 

[JSS2306]

Windy is a PR mouthpiece from the LeBron camp and he's there for smoke and mirrors. It's been obvious for quite awhile but I guess there's still people who haven't picked up on it yet.

If you go to ESPN right now he says he spoke with LeBron and that LeBron found Wade and Bosh's comments surprising. Why would he reveal that to Windhorst of all people if Windhorst was so wrong on everything else?

Windhorst is essentially LeBron's personal media reporter.

 

[Keith]

Windy is a PR mouthpiece from the LeBron camp and he's there for smoke and mirrors. It's been obvious for quite awhile but I guess there's still people who haven't picked up on it yet.

If you go to ESPN right now he says he spoke with LeBron and that LeBron found Wade and Bosh's comments surprising. Why would he reveal that to Windhorst of all people if Windhorst was so wrong on everything else?

Windhorst is essentially LeBron's personal media reporter.

If you listened to today's interview with Lebron on Cavs.com you would realize those words came straight from LBJ. LRMR use Windhorst, Broussard, and a few others to get whatever Lebron-centric viewpoint they want expressed, but reporters need to have an earpiece in many different camps. I guarantee you that every reporter has at least one player/staffer on each team they can go to for Player X says: ___ - it's the nature of the business.

Windhorst actually reports what he hears (i.e. Kyrie & LBJ not getting along) as opposed to not revealing what he knows. Would you rather he play coy and just be vague as hell? I could care less about his prediction %, I just want him to give us information, however awesome or deplorable it may be...

 

[shoes22]

For the record, when Windy reported there being tension between Kyrie and LeBron last year...that was true. It stemmed from Kyrie spurning an invitation from LeBron to come work out with him. Obviously they got it sorted out though, so it's no big deal now.

In fact pretty much everything he's reported did have an element of truth to it, or it was told to him DIRECTLY by someone close to the people involved. He's not just randomly making up stuff.

 

[col63onel]

Haynes doesn't stand a chance, to be honest. When Windy tries he's better at finding out info than anybody.

Better than Woj?

 

[shoes22]

Better than Woj?

Except him.

 

[Douglar]

"Kyrie wants out of Cleveland"

It's not true any more, but last winter it was one of the worst kept secrets in the league, officially false except for the uncomfortable problem that it was actually true.

 

[The Process God]

Yeah, that whole Kyrie and LeBron thing is hysterical looking back on it. But I doubt Windy was just lying, I mean come on. He probably did hear that it just turned out not to be true.

Just because Kyrie resigned a long-term contract with us doesn't mean that he didn't want out. It's possible that he still wants out although now I highly doubt that. It isn't unfathomable that, before the crazy turn of events where Chris Grant, Mike Brown, and a slew of nobody players were replaced by David Griffin, David Blatt, LeBron James, Kevin Love, and a slew of championship-caliber role players, Kyrie did want out if things weren't going to improve. We were a really bad team with only a lot of unrealized potential that may or may not be there. Had we fucked things up year after year like the Timberwolves did with Kevin Love, we might have been trading Kyrie for some young talent. Luckily, David Griffin stumbled into the perfect storm of everything falling his way at once, making it hard for any player to leave the situation that he has set up unless that player wanted a bigger role. One of the reasons that Kyrie signed a contract with a player option in the 5th year (other than because of the predicted large increase in player salaries) is in case things fall apart or it was just a bad situation. It was too early in Kyrie's career to do what Kevin Love and LeBron plan on doing with capitalizing on short-term contracts. Kyrie needed guaranteed dollars, and the front office wouldn't accept anything short of a long-term contract.

Winning fixes a lot of issues. It possibly fixed Kyrie wanting to leave.

 

[TheSloth]

Maybe he'll stop being such a negative Nancy? I hope he gets back to his pre-ESPN days. Loved his work in the past.

I always got the sense that Windy feels responsible for raising our hopes with his overly optimistic reporting in 2010, and, as a Cavs fan/someone who also respects the fanbase, he felt he had to keep Cavs fans from getting burnt again, whether by Kyrie leaving, Lebron choosing to return to Miami, or whatever else. Hope I'm right...

 

[Cavsfan161]

Didn't take him long uh..

 

[Redzone]

I believe he reported Kyrie wanted out of Cleveland, that LeBron would not return, that Dan Gilbert is despised by players around the league and that, get this, the Bulls are a favorite in the east in front of Cleveland.

I believe he was upset with the Grant firing and alluded to that move making a Lebron return even less likely.

Right before the Decision II, when Sheriden was tweeting that LeBron WAS returning and Broussard thought it was likely (although he backpeddled a bit the night before), Windhorst cautioned Cleveland fans not to get their hopes up.

I'd like to hear from Windy why he had lost such faith in a LeBron return even after Miami lost in the finals, his team was entering cap hell and was aging, we obtained the number one pick and Love proclaimed he would come here if LeBron returned.

I mean, if season ticketholders (such as yours truly) who continued to renew did so, in part, with the belief that LeBron would return, and the signs pointed that it was between Cleveland and Miami, why was Windy so off the mark when others (i.e. Sheriden) were right on.

 

[gourimoko]

Windy apology train always cracks me up. The guy gets caught in so-many bullshit stories and there will always be folks trying to rationalize just why he was so wrong.

Give it a rest already.