Because I don't feel he has the dog in him to win a matchup against 2015 Westbrook. Curry's team would win that matchup easy but I just feel individually Westbrook would give him problems.Why?
He has the second-highest PER and the highest RPM/RAPM.
He's second best defender of the bunch, and the second best facilitator of the bunch.
He's also the most efficient scorer of any point-guard in the league, by far.
He'll also be, probably, making a Finals appearance this season.
Any argument that can be made for Kyrie would also apply to Steph and then some.
He is, IMHO, the best point guard in the league.
But it's not really about this man.. That's the thing.
When lebron drives.. it's more of a clumsy power drive.
When lebron takes a fade away from midrange/3pt, you never know if you're going to get an airball or a swish.
That sounds like a far out statement and I don't intend it this way.. The duality of lebron is pretty amazing.. because he takes those shots and they look terrible sometimes, and you reach the point where you want to say, don't, don't take those shots, and then he starts drilling them.
If kyrie takes a shot, it's all good. I don't care what shot it is it's not airballing. It really doesn't matter at all. That 57 point performance? How many drifting, sideways, fadeaways, contested, shots were those?
Not to mention that I'm also pretty used to seeing lebron have 1, 2, 3 turnovers in a row.
It's kind of weird actually, it's almost like Lebron is two different players. He makes some crappy decisions and looks like he can't shoot and then BOOM he starts throwing dimes and making very difficult shots (like those random fade-away corner threes he makes, those are really tough shots to make. But then he'll miss the open 3.)
We have years of stats that prove and show lebron is more impactful and produces wins, something Kyrie has failed at..
I'd take Westbrook too. With LeBron beside him... That's a fearsome duo. They both would be going for trip dubs. I got Kyrie at 4 after them
Umm.. no.
Stats among all players in the NBA:
Points Scored: LeBron (3rd), Kyrie (6th)
Points Per Game: LeBron (3rd), Kyrie (8th)
Minutes Per Game: Kyrie (2nd)
Offensive Rating: Kyrie (19th), LeBron (42nd)
Offensive Win Shares: Kyrie (5th), LeBron (7th)
Win Shares: Kyrie (8th @ 9.7), LeBron (9th @ 9.5)
Try again..
That's so far away...I just want playoff basketball to start already.Looking forward to the Miami game Thursday so hopefully we can get over the bullshit that is currently happening in this thread.
During the playoffs this forum is either going to be bumping and extremely positive (because we'll be firing on all cylinders), or an absolute nightmare to read.You can clearly tell this forum is fucking bored as hell without nothing to discuss, when you see people here discussing about who is better between Kyrie and LeBron or which version of Lebron is better.
"I don't want to say it's not been rocky at all," Irving said. "Obviously, he sees the game one way, I see the game another way. What makes it great about being on the team is that we both can see it together in our own way."
Irving talked about his struggles in trying to adapt to playing with such a multi-talented and multi-positional force of nature.
"Coming in this season, when you have a guy like that who plays the one, two, and three positions (like James), some games are going to be that way. I feel like that's the biggest thing we've built is we're starting to trust one another more. It took time."
Jon... Those rankings are a joke.
Any pg ranking where kyrie is lower than Mike Conley is automatic garbage.
You really want to replace kyrie with mike Conley on this team?
How did we play against the Grizzlies, by chance?
Any ranking where Damian lillard has a higher scoring rating than kyrie is flawed.
Tony Parker? Really?
Who was kyrie playing against in the 57 point game.
Kyrie is top 4-5 max currently.
The very fact that John Wall is ahead of Irving should be demonstrative of error/bias in the calculation.