I feel like we went that route last year with Marion and he was given the hook when he provided so little offensively and athletically.Honestly, I see him being completely redundant with JJ, and would have preferred to see us add a plus defender rather than a plus shooter.
But, I get the cap and tax angle so I really can't be pissed.
"Too old. Need more youth."
Entire starting 5 = 30 or under.
10/15 = 30 or under.
6 = 25 or under.
Christmas - 23
Irving - 23
Harris - 23
TT - 24
Delly - 24
Shumpert - 25
Love - 26
J.R. - 29
Moz - 29
James - 30
Andy - 32
Mo - 32
Jones - 34
Miller - 35
Jefferson - 35
Every contender needs veteran leadership.
Yes, resigning your own guy is nothing, its assumed. I swear to god every other team can turn hot garbage into whatever they need, every year, but the cavs. I don't disagree the team is good, I think we go to the finals next year as well, but other teams got better and we stayed pat. Our players are to fragile to do that.
Not sure where the faulty logic is.
I'm not sure what people were expecting, this offseason. We weren't going to have another five starter-quality players behind what we have now. Mo and Jefferson are vets that will cause no waves and fill in nicely when needed. If we get hit with the injury bug again, we are screwed no matter what. Whether you have Gerald Green and Caron Butler or Richard Jefferson and Mo Williams, if any of those guys are your starters and playing 40 mpg going into the playoffs, your chances off winning it all are not good.
I know I just mentioned this recently, and it will mostly fall on deaf ears, but, to everybody complaining about the Cavs not upgrading their talent enough: Golden State lost in the first round in 2014, returned their top eight players and added Shaun Livingston and won the title. What the Cavs are hoping to do isn't unprecedented.
Not sure why anyone is mad.
All offseason all we heard was everyone wanted to get Gay to backup LeBron,
Well, Lebron now has a Gay backup.
Mission accomplished.
You are delusional. Signing your own players is somehow automatic and a given? Tell that to Portland, and see how automatic the Thunder think it's going to be next year.
Every other team turns hot garbage into what they need? What did Griffin do with Dion and a bunch of borderline assets last season? Shump. JR and Mozgov just came out of nowhere and Griff did nothing there?
Griff was able to make moves last season because he had assets and we weren't over the apron. No assets and being over the apron is like wearing a straight jacket, handcuffs and ankle irons, being locked in a steel cage, being weighted down and dropped into the ocean as far as flexibility, options, and deal-making are concerned. We don't have Tim Duncan taking a fraction of his worth, we have a bunch of players in their prime who need to be paid.
Try joining the real world sometime instead of living in a fairy tale.
Not that I don't agree, but they also got pretty freakin lucky with the amount of injuries other teams had along the way (not to mention they didn't really have any). No way they beat us if we were healthy, half healthy at that.I know I just mentioned this recently, and it will mostly fall on deaf ears, but, to everybody complaining about the Cavs not upgrading their talent enough: Golden State lost in the first round in 2014, returned their top eight players and added Shaun Livingston and won the title. What the Cavs are hoping to do isn't unprecedented.
I think people were hoping for magic -- either for a good starter-level player to come to us for the vet minimum (a la David West), or for the Haywood contract to somehow turn into multiple young guys with upside or a good starter-level player. Stuff like that does happen a few times every year, but you can't count on it. We had a more modest off season -- we upgraded our backups in a sensible way but didn't pick up anybody who was really transformative. So we improved but all the people who at the beginning of the off season were talking about getting Rudy Gay or JJ Redick or Mills/Splitter or Joe Johnson are disappointed.
I plead guilty to being one of those people. We didn't get any fantasy pickups but we did improve.
I love internet insults. Anyway, it is assumed the players will stay pat unless you are blowing up the franchise or you wont pay what they can get or you perpetually lose. So yes, it is assumed that a finals team with an owner who will pay will keep their own players. Griffin turned borderline assets into other borderline aspects. Don't look at them in hindsight, we took a headcase (JR) an injured defensive presence on a tanking team (Shump) and a cast off (Moz). Let's not act like we traded Dion for Marc Gasol. They all worked out great, except JR in the finals, so it looks like a great trade. If Shump hadn't recovered, if JR was JR and if Mozgov played like a cast off would there be all the praise? Anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed this off season.